N Korea demands U.S. return detained cargo ship

Why doesn't the US seize a Chinese vessel. This is exactly why NK and every nation needs a nuclear deterrent.

The move was an "extension of U.S. calculation" to bring Pyongyang to its knees through maximum pressure, he said.

If one cargo ship seized is enough to bring NK to it's knees, the US should have done it a long, long, time ago!

Why doesn't the US seize a Chinese vessel. This is exactly why NK and every nation needs a nuclear deterrent.

And please share with all of us here just what UN sanctions are there against China right now that would give the US or any other nation that is a part of the UN the legal right to seize a Chinese vessel!

Riperez, is this the ship to which you were referring last week?

Why doesn't the US seize a Chinese vessel. This is exactly why NK and every nation needs a nuclear deterrent.

That’s a very easy answer, Russia into lesser extent Shaina I’m not that crazy and don’t want to be obliterated and neither does the US all the more reason for or in the Russians particular case that we are signed to the MAD treaty. North Korea on the other hand is not part of that in because North Korea is so isolated, I don’t think they really understand at how old that they would be crushed were they to even think about firing nukes at South Korea Japan or the US and what the president needs to do now is to further into stuff for sanctions and squeeze him as hard as he can In order for them to denuclearize. Either way, they’ll never get sanction relief at this point.

This could be considered an act of war by the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea. If a country is pushed into a corner it could come out swinging! Oh the US nuclear deterant is worthless as it would kill millions of Chinese, Japanese, Russians and South Koreans.

Give us back the USS Pueblo.

This ship has been impounded by Indonesia for over a year anyway.

From The NY Times:

“Indonesian authorities detained the ship in April 2018 after it was photographed at a North Korean port, loading what prosecutors said appeared to be coal. When the ship traveled to Indonesia, it tried to conceal details about its location by disabling its Automatic Identification System. The ship’s signal had been turned off since August 2017.”

The US seized it because NK fired those missiles. Unlike his predecessors, President Trump isn’t a pushover.

Some of you above are criticizing the U.S. for enforcing UNSC resolutions? Really?

The US seized it because NK fired those missiles. Unlike his predecessors, President Trump isn’t a pushover.

Sure he is - he folded like a piece of origami paper to NK demands to cancel the war games.

Yubaru: "the UN the legal right to seize". The US doesn't need any legal right, they are exempt from international law, just ask it. 

bass4funk: "Russians particular case that we are signed to the MAD treaty. North Korea on the other hand is not part of that". Neither is Israel!

"they would be crushed were they to even think about firing nukes at South Korea Japan or the US". It would only take one to reach NY or Washington, just one! One the US conducts collective punishment and causes a nation to starve, the said nation doesn't have much to loose.

cla68: "The US seized it because NK fired those missiles." How many missile has Israel fired at defenceless Palestinians in the past month? How many missile has the US fired in the past 12 months? Remember Iraq, Syria, Libya, Vietnam....? Oh, it OK for the US to use them ageist civilians but not for NK to do trials.

USNinJapan2: "Some of you above are criticizing the U.S. for enforcing UNSC resolutions? Really?" Why doesn't the US enforce UNSC resolutions against Israel?

Why doesn't the US enforce UNSC resolutions against Israel?

Why should they?

"they would be crushed were they to even think about firing nukes at South Korea Japan or the US". It would only take one to reach NY or Washington, just one!

And we have a few hundred, now imagine what that would look like. To yo what, that new Green deal couldn’t fix even that aftermath.

One the US conducts collective punishment and causes a nation to starve

Sorry, Kim is starving his people, that has zero to do with the US.

Sure he is - he folded like a piece of origami paper to NK demands to cancel the war games.

If he were then he would’ve easily given into the sanctions like the three previous presidents did, but he didn’t do that and from the looks of it, it looks like he is going to ratchet up the sanctions. If that is considered being a pushover then he is the best pushover president to push the North Koreans.

bass;  from the looks of it, it looks like he is going to ratchet up the sanctions

Actually Trump cancelled the sanctions the Treasury Dept put on NK. He has relieved them of sanctions.

As the sanctions were made by the UN and not by the US, I have no issue with this. It would be more unbiased however to use a UN defence force.

It would be more unbiased however to use a UN defence force.

JuminRhee - That's actually the case. A coalition of U.N. sending states, which naturally includes the U.S., is enforcing UNSC resolutions against the DPRK, particularly regarding sanction skirting ship-to-ship transfer of fuel and supplies. The Royal Navy (U.K.) and the JMSDF are the ones primarily conducting this mission, not the U.S. Navy. Also , this ship wasn't taken by a military force but was seized administratively while in port in Indonesia.

I suppose the sanctions prevent the starving North Korea from importing food. How many North Koreans has the USA and its sanctions killed?

I suppose the sanctions prevent the starving North Korea from importing food. How many North Koreans has the USA and its sanctions killed?

None. The Kim regime is 100% responsible for the starvation and deaths of his people. Any relief goes to feed his precious army and fund his weapons development. The man is insane and blaming the US for it is ridiculous.

"The move was an "extension of U.S. calculation" to bring Pyongyang to its knees through maximum pressure, he said."

Uh, yeah... That's kinda how sanctions are supposed to work, genius. North Korea's best and brightest folks!

NK gets aid from China, and probably Russia. If their people starve that's on Kim.

PIRACY. PERIOD. And here words and acronyms take the place of thought. We, the U.S. are leaning on a TINY, poor country who has the grit to tell us to go convene in physical intimacy with ourselves, the worst sin, disobedience to American GREATNESS! It cannot be forgiven. We must CRUSH all who would question America's right to smite any who question our directives, or the wishes of our chief parasite. UNSC, US, NK, SK, all of these are perceptual fog. We have a huge pathological, violently militaristic, highly paranoid, BULLY carrying the largest club on the planet threatening a small, financially strapped skinny Asian kid holding up a twig in defiance. All moral value here is on the side of the Koreans as the usual scenarios are brought out of historical storage by the U.S. who, at this time, is running three large (NK, Iran, Venezuela) and who knows how many smaller such atrocities against sovereign peoples who show any independent spirit whatsoever. The distance between what America is by its BEHAVIOR and what it is by its own perceptual self-deception is perceptually INTERSTELLAR. In fact, the difference is so great that it can EASILY be called a NATIONAL CRIMINAL PSYCHOSIS, the serial killer of children who see themselves as HERO. THE TOPIC HERE, whether carried out on the high seas or not, IS PIRACY!

There are just a few simple things that NK need to do to get their ship back.

end all nuclear activities

allow full access for experts to prove this and to watch full destruction of all nuclear sites and any other locations.

Plus that would remove the sanctions and if they reunited with SK, they'd see crazy levels of economic investment, which would negate any need for military there.

There are countries without armies. They aren't starving their people and have lots of outside investment from both China and the US.

The terms "disguised vessels" and "false flags" describe much of the worlds Merchant Fleets of all countries nowadays. "Flags of Convenience" is the term used to descibe them.

USNinjapan2:

If Alabama is causing trouble, the american national guard is called, not a coalition of California, Vermont, etc state guards. That was my point with the final comment about having an actual UN defence force, as opposed to a coalition of member state militaries.