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74% of Japanese companies against daylight saving time for 2020 Olympics: poll

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By Tetsushi Kajimoto

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Japan is better off without Daylight Savings as it does nothing but cause accidents. Look up How Is This Still A Thing? from John Oliver to put into perspective how stupid it is in the modern age.

For a few weeks of the Olympics it's not worth it. Much easier to just start an hour earlier. Or start events at night. Or start events in October back when Japanese had a backbone

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Not a surprise. Daylight saving is not wanted. Confusing and troublesome, computer systems will cost Billions in Yen to adjust. Rural areas will be disrupted and farmers confused. Average age 71, and no understanding of this new time system.

IF it must come in, just for the 2 weeks if Olympic, then return to normal.

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computer systems will cost Billions in Yen to adjust.

Not these days. This isn’t a Y2K type thing.

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Just move the Olympics to October, like in 1964. Problem solved.

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citing the time and effort to adjust computer systems as well as disruptions to public life.

Ah, Japan! The country afraid of change. Many countries have used daylight saving for decades and they survived.

However, day light saving will have no impact due to the temps still being in the low to mid 30’s in the evenings and early mornings. They need to move the clocks forward three months to the cooler months for it to have any impact.

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I've changed my mind on this and instead of daylight savings, I think Japan should change time zones, either to GMT +9.5 like Central Australia directly below Japan or GMT+10 like the bit of Russia directly above Japan. This would require only one disruption.

Japan has a very similar latitude to Malta, meaning a very similar length of daylight to organize the clock around. However, sunrise and sunset in Malta in winter are over twenty minutes later. This suggests GMT+9.5 would be a good fit, but GMT +10 would make things easier to calculate. Malta has summer time, but at +10 Japan wouldn't need it.

Japan is dark or near dark at 6pm for half the year. Far more people are awake and out at 6pm than before 6am, so this makes things unnecessarily miserable. Less time for kids to play, more anxiety for women and schoolgirls out on their own, less incentive for anyone to relax outside, etc. etc.

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While there has been much concern on social media that longer days could result in longer working hours given Japan's labor shortage, those in favor say daylight saving would help save energy, reduce emissions and stimulate consumer activity.

Labor shortage excuse brought up again. Say the same thing repeatedly and it becomes fact.

I have a foreign friend who can speak, read and write Japanese very well and can program in Python, Sql, Oracle, MS Access as well as interprete and translate from English to Japanese and vice versa and he applied for more than a hundred jobs last month alone but had nothing but negative response, why maybe because he is in his fifties. He is even prepared to accept any job for 1500yen an hour so that he can feed his family yet nothing and too add insult to injury the jobs he has applied for and turned down are still seeking applicants.

The vast majority are paying extremely low hence the outcry of labor shortage.

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Japan is riddled with these kinds of set in stone anomalies that exist for no good reason other than that in the mists of time some Todai educated experts and their fawning toady bureaucrat enablers, each with a penchant for patriotic one-size-fits-all standardization, decided that’s the way things are going to be.

Henceforth, despite compounding evidence that the decision was wrong, contrary to the best interests of the nation, and ought to be revisited, the impetus for change founders on the shoals of paralysis, inertia, and the interest of saving face.

As a result, we have sunrise in Eastern Hokkaido starting as early as 03:30 (in standard time) in summer due to its high latitude and its location near the eastern edge of the time zone, with much of the region's solar time actually closer to UTC+10:00. Because of this, the sun sets barely after 19:00 in much of the eastern part of the country (in Tokyo, the latest sunset of the entire year is 19:01, from June 26 to July 1, despite being at 35°41'N latitude)”.

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Japan is riddled with these kinds of set in stone anomalies

I'm not sure which is the more stone-like attitude, not adopting daylight saving time or not changing our habits to match the earth's behavior. To me, it makes sense that the sun should be at its highest at as close to noon as possible. In Japan, that's the situation for parts of Hyogo. We can't change how much daylight there is in a day, but we can change what time we start work and go to bed.

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Resistance to any kind of change no matter how much sense it makes is a time honored Japanese tradition. The army of oyajis in positions of power whilst having the ability to enact change prefer to stick to whatever archaic rule/ custom was created by other oyajis decades or centuries ago. These will be protected at all costs and all those foreigners using reason and common sense told they do not possess the ability to understand Japan,s unique traditions and customs because Japan is just " special" as JT,s resident J defenders continue to remind us all.

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"could be held during cooler hours if clocks were moved forward by one or two hours."

Easier just to move the time they start to a cooler time.

When i worked in a hotel cleaning the kitchen at night, When the clocks went back an hour, the extra hour was handy but when the clocks went forward an hour, i had an hour less to do the job in.

When working in an office, every time the clocks moved forward or back, my sleep pattern was disrupted.

When the clocks go forward i had an extra hour of darkness to drive in the mornings.

I live in the UK and do not see any advantage (for me) in going from GMT to BST (summer time) and back again.

Personaly I think the back and forth time should be scraped world wide.

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I've changed my mind on this and instead of daylight savings, I think Japan should change time zones, either to GMT +9.5 like Central Australia directly below Japan or GMT+10 like the bit of Russia directly above Japan. This would require only one disruption.

Japan has a very similar latitude to Malta, meaning a very similar length of daylight to organize the clock around. However, sunrise and sunset in Malta in winter are over twenty minutes later. This suggests GMT+9.5 would be a good fit, but GMT +10 would make things easier to calculate. Malta has summer time, but at +10 Japan wouldn't need it.

Japan is dark or near dark at 6pm for half the year. Far more people are awake and out at 6pm than before 6am, so this makes things unnecessarily miserable. Less time for kids to play, more anxiety for women and schoolgirls out on their own, less incentive for anyone to relax outside, etc. etc.

No need to say more.

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In UK, For 5 months (Nov - March), the days become darker after 3:30pm. But between from May till Sep, days are longer, sunset is after 8,9, and even 10pm.

Not only in Japan but other South east Asian countries, sunset is around 6pm for 6,7 months, then rest is around 5pm.

Daylight saving is not useful in Asian countries but in the west, it somehow helping them economically, some reason hidden there.

However, to increase the time to be with family and friends, Sunset at around 9pm is almost perfect for everyone.

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"Ah, Japan! The country afraid of change. Many countries have used daylight saving for decades and they survived."

 

Just like to point out that daylight savings time's demise is being proposed in the EU!

 

Sorry to burst someone's little anti-Japan rant.

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ah DST. I personally do not care. Day or night, my business goes on. Most people's activities doesn't depend on how much sun or how long the sun is out there

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@Ganbare Japan...totally agree with you. Excellent points about the farmers and the IT costs!

@Gokai_wo_maneku...great recommendation about moving the Olympics to October as it will indeed solve all problems however this will require agreements from the IOC itself and other member countries. The hosting country ( in this case Japan ) cannot make this decision by itself! In the end, it will look stupid on the IOC to make these changes now because it highlights their failures to take external factors into consideration before awarding the games to Tokyo!

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@Ganbare Japan...totally agree with you. Excellent points about the farmers and the IT costs!

Absolute nonsense , none of the multiple countries with daylight savings suffered IT related financial ruin or " confused" farming community , the " it will cause confusion " is a tired phrase used by Joyajis to resist whatever change is proposed.

Just like to point out that daylight savings time's demise is being proposed in the EU! Sorry to burst someone's little anti-Japan rant.

Being proposed does not equal it happening. How many European governments support this proposal?

A non argument , sorry to burst your bubble...try harder :)

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"Ah, Japan! The country afraid of change. Many countries have used daylight saving for decades and they survived."

 

@Peeping_Tom - Just like to point out that daylight savings time's demise is being proposed in the EU!

Another pointless and irrelevant comment. I’d just like to point out, what the EU does or doesn’t do has nothing to do with daylight saving in Japan or the Tokyo Olympics. The southern states of Australia have had daylight saving for over 30 years and nobody complains about it nor has anybody died from it. The southern states of Australia also share the same sub-tropical and temperate zones with the same hours of daylight. Therefore, your point is......what exactly?

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Events such as the marathon, scheduled for the morning, could be held during cooler hours -if-clocks- IF EVENTS were moved forward by one or two hours.

FIFY :-)

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74% of oyajis against daylight saving time for 2020 Olympics: poll

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Rural areas will be disrupted and farmers confused. Average age 71, and no understanding of this new time system.

Ganbare Japan - your comment suggests it is you that does not understand daylight saving.

Life is not disrupted and it is not a new time system.

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Japan is better off without Daylight Savings as it does nothing but cause accidents. Look up How Is This Still A Thing? from John Oliver to put into perspective how stupid it is in the modern age.

Mildly amusing but full of inaccuracies. In countries that have it, it is popular.

As an example of the mistakes, it puts it down to Germany in WW1 yet at the same time Great Britain introduced double summer time - moving 2 hours ahead - providing even more time to be productive in (another mistake in the article which suggested it had nothing to do with productivity).

The downside of daylight savings is this - once a year you get 1 hour less sleep (big deal). And twice a year you need to update your clocks. I have only one analogue clock that doesn't change itself. Two if you include the car.

In return I would get an hour more daylight throughout the summer.

Of course there is nothing to stop me getting up at 4am and going to bed at 8pm in summer, but that isn't realistic, is it? Instead I sleep throughout the morning cool and spend an additional hour in darkness in the evening.

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Just like to point out that daylight savings time's demise is being proposed in the EU!

A slight exaggeration. There are moves to stop the agreed change whereby all EU countries move at the same time. Some will.

Many will go on to permanent summer time, exchanging an hour of light in the morning for an hour of light in the evening all year round.

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I'm Japanaese. Those who blaim "Joyazis" for opposition on this matter are really mistaken.

Those who are opposing savings time are the youth and liberals. Those who want to introduce this policy are LDP politicians and certain industries.

Its okay if you like or hate daylight savings time but please dont label this as another oyaji problem.

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Those who blaim "Joyazis" for opposition on this matter are really mistaken...... those who are opposing savings time are the youth and liberals

The article headline states 74% of Japanese companies oppose daylight savings......as everyone knows its not " youth or liberals" running companies in this country. Because of tne outdated " seniority " based system of climbing the corporate ladder , vast majority of J companies are indeed run by oyajis. ....therefore as usual its the oyajis at the top opposing change.

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marcelito

You are right about japanese countries are run by oyajis. But its not only oyajis that oppose this policy. Many anti-LDP people oppose this plan. Look at this page.

http://b.hatena.ne.jp/entry/s/www.slideshare.net/tetsutalow/ss-109290879

Hatena Bookmark is very liberal community. Many people oppsse summer time and its not becouse they are afreaid of change but because they think it affects Japan in a bad way. And many people are blameing LDP regime here. 「 政権のバカどもに果たしてこれが理解できるだろうか・・」「議員があんぽんたんなのはしかたないとして側近のブレーンたちは何してんだろな。考えることをやめたんだろうか。意見出すと粛清されるとか。」「 日本は自殺しようとしてる」

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 In countries that have it, it is popular.

@Ah_so, I take it you were referring to the changing of clocks. According to the article below, 80% of EU citizens are in favor of not changing the clocks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/31/eu-recommend-member-states-abolish-daylight-saving-time

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@Ah_so, I take it you were referring to the changing of clocks. According to the article below, 80% of EU citizens are in favor of not changing the clocks.

I have read that article. They want to stay on daylight saving all year round - something I agree with. Japan should too. It wastes collectively billions of hours of daylight a year by lying in bed when the sun is up.

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citing the time and effort to adjust computer systems

Most digital systems nowadays are automatically synced to a national standard keeping time

Do typical people manually sync their computers? Their phones?

It's no big deal

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In South Korea, people complained that the longer days were hard to adjust to

Unless you're stuck in the office, who complains about longer days?!

Generally better that the sun sets at 9pm than at 7pm

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