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Japan Airlines eyes replacement of 767s, regional jets

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By Jamie Freed

Japan Airlines (JAL) plans to make a decision in a year or two on the replacement of its ageing fleet of Boeing Co 767s and Embraer SA regional jets, a senior executive said.

JAL will consider the 787 and Airbus SE A321neo families as possible replacements for its 767 fleet and the A220 and E2 models for regional jets, said Ross Leggett, the airline's head of route marketing, international relations and alliances.

"We have got a fairly large 787 fleet, so whether it is an A321 that could then be used quite well within Asia as well, we really haven't looked at the full decision," he told Reuters on the sidelines of an airline industry gathering in Doha.

JAL has 31 767s, 18 Embraer E-170s and 14 E-190s in its fleet, according to its website.

Leggett said the airline had returned domestic capacity to 100% of pre-pandemic levels in May, though demand was running at about 85% to 95% of 2019 levels.

In the international market, with China, South Korea and Taiwan effectively closed and Japan capping daily entry numbers, capacity is about 65% of pre-pandemic levels, he added.

Domestic demand at rival ANA Holdings is about 80% of pre-pandemic levels, said Junichiro Miyagawa, ANA executive vice president in charge of alliances and international affairs.

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I love flying experience in an 787, IMHO the best flying experience out there by a large margin, nothing comes close. But the taint of 'Boeing' is going to be hard to overcome.

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The 767s were and still are the great ones. It is sad when planes retire. They sure had their share of adventures.

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I love flying experience in an 787, IMHO the best flying experience out there by a large margin, nothing comes close.

Nope. That would be the A380.

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I love flying experience in an 787, IMHO the best flying experience out there by a large margin, nothing comes close.

Let me guess. 1st class?

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Nope. That would be the A380.

Only flew a couple of times in an A380, I found it very hard to sleep in it, and too many people on board, and definitely doesn't have to smoothness in flight as the Dreamliner.

Anyhow, probably academic now that most airlines can't make A380 viable.

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Moot any way as the A380 has been discontinued by Airbus when the final orders are filled.

Anyhow, probably academic now that most airlines can't make A380 viable.

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Airbus doesn’t have as many accidents

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JAL will consider the 787 and Airbus SE A321neo families as possible replacements for its 767 fleet and the A220 and E2 models for regional jets

JAL has 31 767s, 18 Embraer E-170s and 14 E-190s in its fleet, according to its website.

This reads terribly as it comes off implying JAL wants to also replace the A220, and not add the A220 which is what they offically said. I know JT is just reposting a Reuters article

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Also depends on the weather and the pilot

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Looking at JAR's fleet, JAR is pretty much an all Boeing and Bombardier shop, so this restricts their replacement to Boeing and Bombardier models. https://www.jal.com/en/outline/aircraft.html

Airbus is loaded with 7 year worth of order backlog so they won't play a ball game on price negotiations. It's Boeing and Embraer that are desperate for new orders and are willing to cut a deal.

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I miss those 747s they retired a decade ago. Sat in the 'bubble' a few times. Good memories and flights were so much cheaper back then. Now I have to transfer in Hong Kong or Incheon to get the best deal to YVR. Nothing beats JAL or ANA for service though. I find with Air Canada, you get middle-aged cabin crew that aren't friendly. Actually, I find most Asian Airlines have beautiful, young, friendly cabin crew. Its the opposite with US or Canadian owned airlines. Looking forward to visiting Canada again when the quarantines and vaccine mandates end for international arrivals.

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The 747s were legends of the sky.

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I’ll fly anything but a Tupalov or Ilushyn.

tin cans

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I miss those 747s they retired a decade ago. Sat in the 'bubble' a few times

Ding, ding, ding !!! Exactly. The old 747 is still my favorite airliner for long flight. The newer Boeing models with two huge turbo fans as just plain loud inside. It also seems someone at Boeing went out of their way to make the toilets as loud as possible. No way to sleep when every five minutes you hear this deafening roar from the bathrooms. Older Boeings had quieter commodes.

Another favorite I have ridden across the Pacific is the 727. All three engines in the rear, quiet cabin and tremendous power for the size of the airplane. One I flew on belonged to Continental Air Micronesia, was equipped with fenders on the landing gear wheels, rock screens over small inlets and landing lights and 40 degree flaps. They operated it off 2500 foot coral runways! When I was a passenger it was the highest hour airliner in service anywhere in the world but you would have never known it to look at it. Continental was very proud of that airplane and took great care of it. Continental had these grizzled old pilots (and cabin crew !) who knew how to fly and always had the smoothest landings. The complete opposite of assault landings of Southworst Scarelines.

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I’ll fly anything but a Tupalov or Ilushyn.

I'd be a little leery of Comac and Xi'an too.

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