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All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut

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The navigation voice is a prosecutor who wants to know why YOU are going there? And where do you in the future plan to go? Can’t be turned off for 21 days. Then reboots. Other than that it does look remarkably like the 80s Datsun Z. A very popular body shape. Design department were a little bit lazy on this one. Or maybe go with what works. Works for Porches, Can’t wait to smash one at the traffic lights.

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The problem with 400Z is that it's platform is old, 20 year old. As the result 400Z is quiet heavy and it wouldn't be able to compete against newer rivals on track.

Nissan's next 2023 GT-R likewise is also a restyled version of the old car, all gasoline and no hybrid.

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Look nice, but i probably will not able to afford it.

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Never buy a Nissan. There are many makers that are much better!

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@Hiro

 i probably will not able to afford it.

The price is low enough at $35K starting price. However, this was made possible because most of underlying mechanical parts and chassis are old and recycled from the previous model.

Basically, Nissan is broke and can't afford to spend money on new platform engineering, so it keeps stretching old platform and parts, and hope to compete on price only.

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Z cars will sell because of their pedigree. Agree they are not the most up to date tech.

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The Zs are always beautiful to me, from the outside.

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It's a beautiful looking car. I seldom say that any more about new cars but this car is good looking. As for the underpinnings, I have no problem with the tried and true. I have seen over the decades too many great cars "modernized" into cheapness. New doesn't always mean better. Often it just means less costly to produce. I'll wait until there are some detailed road tests of the vehicle.

As for the comment on the upcoming new GTR, I frankly wish Nissan still made the R-32 or something very close to that. All mechanical drive line with no electronic nannies. Hard, direct and it talked to you. Nothing wrong with that. I cherish an older Audi for the same reason. Newer Audis feel like Toyotas to me, all soft and squishy. The old Audi is hard and direct. Perfect.

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Still to be a Fairlady in Japan?

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Might have thought about buying one had Nissan kept its image cleaner. The best car I ever owned was an R32 GT-R.

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@Desert Tortoise

 frankly wish Nissan still made the R-32 or something very close to that.

No can do due to changing emissions and safety regulations.

The first round of Toyota GR86 reviews are on Youtube and it's same story here.

Subaru didn't move BRZ/86 to its new platform; the new one is pretty much the same car as the previous-gen one chassis wise, Subaru only put a larger engine, replaced the transmission, and updated dashboard/interior.

There is a trend among Japanese automakers to refresh exterior, put in a new interior, and call it a new model nowadays, presumably due to lack of funds.

This is a very dangerous tactic as the world is moving on while Japanese are holding onto the past.

Currently, the most anticipated upcoming sports car is Hyundai Genesis GT70, a new sports car built on an entirely new platform. Oldie 400Z and GR86 can't compete against something like this, nor does Hyundai consider Japanese to be its rivals anymore, it's straightly going after BMW.

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well for that money you can buy real car somewhere else...Nissan will be my last choice

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@Samit Basu

this was made possible because most of underlying mechanical parts and chassis are old and recycled from the previous model.

Basically, Nissan is broke and can't afford to spend money on new platform engineering, so it keeps stretching old platform and parts, and hope to compete on price only.

BULLSH1T every thing was built from the ground up. Nissan isn't using recycled parts here for most underlying mechanical parts. If you know nothing, it's better that you shut up. if you're remotely aware of Nissan's turn around plan, you'd know that this is false. The whole platform was built from the ground up and the past 2 years, on the manufacturing side, Nissan actually did surprisingly able to reduce costs of several components while keeping them anew. Go home kid. You're anything but a reliable source of information. Nissan built completely new platforms for several vehicles. not just for Z.

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@Sindhoor GK

every thing was built from the ground up. Nissan isn't using recycled parts here for most underlying mechanical parts. 

Don't take my word for it.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/34976/no-electrified-variants-of-the-next-gen-nissan-z-until-2025-report

CarAdvice alleges that because the "400Z" will still be built on the same basic FM platform as the existing 370Z, electrification will have to wait until the next-next generation car

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/nissan-s-z-platform-evolved-to-underpin-the-z-proto-and-400z-ar189583.html

Down at its very core, the backbone of Nissan’s upcoming entry-level sports car is drenched in the DNA of the 370Z and 350Z

its underpinnings are linked to Nissan’s long-standing FM platform that hides underneath both the 370Z and the 350Z, as well as many other Nissan and Infiniti products.

https://paultan.org/2021/08/18/2023-nissan-z-makes-its-official-global-debut/

The engine isn’t the only aspect of the new Z that is familiar, as it also carries over the FM platform that underpins the 370Z, 350Z and a few Infiniti models.

As a result, the wheelbase is unchanged from the 370Z at 2,550 mm

https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/a37331301/2023-nissan-z/

Still, the 400Z name would have been fairly appropriate, as this new Nissan whips up a cool 400 horsepower from its twin-turbo 3.0-liter V6 — the same engine found in the Infiniti Q50 Red Sport.

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I like the look of it, reminds me a bit of a Jag. Rear end looks clean, uncluttered and underproduced, which is a rare thing for Japanese cars that usually look like they were designed by the Romulans.

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I'm not selling my JB64 for this thats for sure.

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Topspeed and thedrive are just as good in Auto Journalism as IGN and Polygon in videogames.

While the current Z is inspired from the previous generation Z, A lot of changes have been made to the previous platform for the current Z which makes it almost an entirely new platform. The engine part, using the same engines as infinity Q 60 Red sport doesn't mean that it's recycled.

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the new one is pretty much the same car as the previous-gen one chassis wise

If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Is there any ground-breaking research in the field of car chassis? Cars like the BRZ are all about being good "enough" for the price point. Compare them with hypercars costing millions and they're rubbish.

In the bubblicious golden age of JDM, young Japanese men, even university students, would buy flash cars to take women on dates. That doesn't happen any more. The cars don't sell, and manufacturers now put a corresponding amount of effort into them. They're not going to sink a lot of cash into active aero, four wheel steering, and rotary engines like the glory days.

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@Sindhoor GK

, A lot of changes have been made to the previous platform for the current Z 

Yes, lots of changes were made so that even the wheelbase is exactly the same between the 370Z and the 400Z. (2,550 mm)

400Z is what other companies would call a mid-life refresh.

https://gtchannel.com/moment/6297/the-400z-could-be-affordable-because-it-shares-chassis-with-the-370z/

The 400Z Could Be Affordable because it shares chassis with the 370Z

The new Z proto/400Z will share the same chassis as the current Nissan 370Z. The Z new engine most likely will be a turbo charged 3L V6 in the current Japanese Skyline

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if it comes in convertible then you will see all the men in mid-life crisis in one...

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That’s Hysterical Cricky lmao

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Never buy a Nissan. There are many makers that are much better!

Based on what? Nissan engines run better and longer than almost every other domestic market brand out there! It's not the greatest car in the world but it is the best selling sports car of all time since 1969! And if you owned a Z (I do), you'd know it's not just about the car.

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It doesn't matter that Nissan will name it just 'Z', the Z community have already labeled it as '400z'. We already call every model in the range 'Z'.

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Good looking car with plenty of power for most people. I'd buy one.

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looks like an Audi !! wow did not know that Japanese would go this far in making the car look this bad

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Samit BasuToday  10:23 am JST

Currently, the most anticipated upcoming sports car is Hyundai Genesis GT70 (.... in South Korea, maybe)

Wrong. This is just a rendering from last year. It's not even at concept stage. By the time this car is released the Nissan Z will be at the next generation already, so you claims of "old platform" etc will have easily been flushed down the toilet.

Oldie 400Z and GR86 can't compete against something like this, nor does Hyundai consider Japanese to be its rivals anymore, it's straightly going after BMW.

400Z and GR86 can't compete against the Genesis GT70 because it doesn't exist.

And it doesn't matter if Hyundai doesn't consider the Japanese as rivals anymore, because Japanese never considered Hyundai a rival at all. The Japanese have always used Valkswagen (Toyota), Mercedes (Lexus) and BMW (Infiniti) as their benchmarks. Hyundai is only copying what the Japanese have done all along.

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looks like an Audi !!

Which Audi? Looks nothing like an R8, even less like a TT.

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There is a trend among Japanese automakers to refresh exterior, put in a new interior, and call it a new model nowadays

Every car company does that. It's as old as the auto industry. From 1960-1976 the chassis of the old Plymouth Valiant never changed. Same for its sister the Dodge Dart along with Spanish, Australian, South African and Brazilian spin offs. The Dart soldiered on in Brazil until the 1990s some with huge V-8 engines.

frankly wish Nissan still made the R-32 or something very close to that.

No can do due to changing emissions and safety regulations.

Sure you can. Update the engine and emissions but leave the driveline and chassis alone. The R-32 already met US crash standards. There is no reason aside from maybe cost to replace mechanical Torsens at each end and in the center differential with electronic "traction control". Torsens work wonderfully (I finagled Porsche 944 Torsens in both my front drive Audis with outstanding results) and don't rely on anything electronic. Torsens need no computers, there is nothing to wear or any need for special lubricants for clutch packs that eventually wear out and need an expensive replacement. For me there is no need to add a video arcade to the dash and lard the car up with "features" either. Keep it light weight and simple like the R-32 was. I've watched too many cars grow porky and less fun to drive over the years as auto firms try to make the model appeal to more people. Compare a BMW 2002tii to a modern 3 Series. Really their 1 Series is closer to the old 2002 or the first two generations of the 3 Series. The 3 today is porky.

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looks like an Audi !! wow did not know that Japanese would go this far in making the car look this bad

I don't think it looks like an Audi because why? too lazy to do comparison and no it doesn't match either

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Nissan will never ever get my custom-ever!

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