The Economy Class cabin of ANA's new Boeing 787-10 Photo: KYODO
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ANA unveils new Boeing 787-10 for international routes

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All Nippon Airways (ANA) on Friday unveiled its new Boeing 787-10, after its arrival Thursday from Boeing's manufacturing facility in Charleston, SC. Among a range of upgrades, the advanced aircraft features upgraded seats with enhanced comfort and functionality in both Premium Economy and Economy Class.

"The 787-10 is a cutting-edge plane and ANA is honored to be the first Japanese airline to fly the aircraft," said Hideki Kunugi, Executive Vice President of ANA. "ANA now has the distinction of being the only airline in Asia to operate all models (787-8, 787-9 and 787-10) of the 787 aircraft. The 787 fleet is known for its extremely low noise levels, excellent fuel efficiency and in-flight comfort, all of which support ANA's mission to push the standards of air travel by investing in the latest technology."

The Boeing 787-10 is scheduled to begin flying on April 26 from Narita to Singapore before it begins service from Narita to Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport on July 1. These routes aim to meet the high demand for flights connecting prominent locations in Asia and will allow Japan to serve as a convenient connecting point for flyers, ANA said.

The aircraft's Premium Economy and Economy Class features a six-way adjustable headrest and the largest touchscreen personal seat monitor in its class. The seat monitors have been updated to include swipe-to-search ability and support for five additional languages - which brings the total to 11. The high capacity aircraft also offers the popular "Full Flat" seats, in the Business Class cabin. Furthermore, the next-generation "ANA Flight Path" map will be added to the flights, using 3D mapping to provide tourism guides and restaurant recommendations from Japan's largest travel review site, 4 travel.

ANA said it plans to acquire a total of three 787-10s by the end of fiscal year 2020 and gradually introduce them to its Southeast Asian routes as part of its commitment to bring top-of-the-line aircraft and technology to travelers.

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Now is probably not the best time to be bragging about your new Boeing plane.

16 ( +21 / -5 )

@rainyday.. when is the last time you heard anything bad about a 787? Being an engineer.. things happen.. new designs and different software have issues all the time. I am on a project now.. this is happening.. not sure what you do.. don’t be an arm chair quarterback.

-5 ( +10 / -15 )

I just hope the new Boeing won’t crash.

0 ( +7 / -7 )

Well said Chris. @rainyday: Its not a new plane. SQ have been flying this variant for a while now. 787 as a whole had battery problems years back briefly. Problem solved.

The current 737 problem are nothing remotely related.

As for Meiyouwenti, what a pointless comment. And as above..its NOT a new plane.

-4 ( +6 / -10 )

No need to worry. The Japanese pilots will train and qualify on their new aircraft. They will learn how the systems work and how the plane handles before any passengers fly in the plane.

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

Those saying it isn’t of concern, connected or relevant, well, it is. It’s the company’s culture that is terrifying, pushing through an aircraft without training to “save money", the connection to the FAA, the slow response to obvious issues that killed 189 people with the Lion Air flight. All VERY concerning.

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@Chris Rennie

"...when is the last time you heard anything bad about a 787"

when the batteries caught fire several times, and Boeing couldn't figure out the problem, since so much of the aircraft is outsourced to a wide range of suppliers throughout the world. The batteries are supplied by Japan's Yuasa, which had never made aircraft batteries before, and their chargers came from Thales in France. Before this happened, Boeing's engineers complained of having trouble making all the disparate components fit and work together.

FAA never conducted proper tests on the battery system before the 787 was launched but certified the aircraft anyway. After the problem surfaced, it ordered enclosures to be installed around the batteries rather than have the dangerous batteries removed and replaced with safer ones. The decision put Boeing's profits as the priority over public safety, given the costs that would have been involved.

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ANA just got voted No.10 best airline in the world on tripadvisor - JAL got No.5, and that's been the airline I fly with because of the extra legroom. It's not mentioned in the article, but I think the new ANA 787s have the same seat pitch - 84cm.

ANA seems to be expanding its routes - Melbourne to Tokyo direct would be nice.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Pilots who are trained to fly the B-787-8 also fly the B-787-9 and B-787-10 ... it’s the same type rating. The -9 and the -10 are heavier and longer. Each takeoff and landing differs with humidity, temperature and wind direction and speed. Pilots who qualify to fly the 787 family of aircraft are seasoned professionals, not beginners.

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A truly uncomfortable flying experience! Lousy service and small seats and the window seats are the worse. Note ANA has an extra seat in each row vs JAL which is 8 across vs 9. I would rather fly on American in their Premium economy. As for their safety, I am not sure.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Looks cramped and I detest seats with a headrest pushing your head forward. Hopefully boeing tested its "advanced software" in advance so I don't have to be a test subject.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

3-3-3 seat configuration sucks for couples

3 ( +4 / -1 )

 They will learn how the systems work and how the plane handles before any passengers fly in the plane.

yeah like Boeing said pilots only needed Ipad training to upgrade to the MAX

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Boeing has a far better safety record than Airbus.

actually they dont , in the last 50yrs Boeing and Airbus have a very similar safety record with the two safest planes in the Sky to being. Airbus A340 A380 which have had now crashes or loss of life http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm

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Boeing has a far better safety record than Airbus.

Not true. Both manufacturers, when you look at Full Loss Event (FLE), which is the proportion of people killed in a plane crash, are essentially identical:

Airbus: 24 FLE, 35 crashes, 0.686 FLE/crash

Boeing: 171.95 FLE, 251 crashes, 0.685 FLE/crash

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Looking at that picture it is pretty easy to understand why they are called and air-bus.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

787's keep being touted as being quieter and more comfortable. Quite frankly, I haven't found it to be true.

I found the old 747's and current 777's to be more comfortable.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

With the air particulate sensors in the cockpit,

it will make flying safer than ever!

0 ( +0 / -0 )

https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/shares/2019/04/03/rolls-royce-engine-crisis-deepens/

are they using the GE or rolls-royce engines ?

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Looking at that picture it is pretty easy to understand why they are called and air-bus.

yet the picture is of Boeing, LOL oh dear didnt think before you post did you.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

All ANA 787 have RR engines.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

That seat configuration looks terrible and can only be there to maximize load factor and thus revenue for the airlines.

2-4-2 is much better for passengers as it caters for the different groups on the plane - singles, couples and families.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

the dreaded middle seat

0 ( +0 / -0 )

SF2K, the window seats are even worse that the middle ones. You get to encounter the curve in the fuselage. JAL is better with 8 across with 17.5 inches wide while ANA, American etc are 9 across with 17 inches. Also the armrests are smaller. Call it sardine class with service that is just awful.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Those seats look tiny

0 ( +0 / -0 )

sf2k

Not if you're flying with two lovely partners!

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SINGAPORE: Singapore Airlines (SIA) has removed two SIA 787-10 Dreamliner planes from service after routine inspections found issues with the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 TEN engines, the carrier said in a statement on Tuesday (Apr 2). 

“During recent routine inspections of Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 TEN engines on Singapore Airlines’ Boeing 787-10 fleet, premature blade deterioration was found on some engines," SIA said.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

So window-seated person now has to ask 2 persons to move to be able to get out?! Thats crazy. Even if they know each other it still means that 2 persons have to get up and clog up the aisle for the 3rd one to be able to leave, two times for every bathroom tour...will get rather crowded in the morning!

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

If you can’t fly on 1st class or business class, you’re just sitting in a cramped plane, nothing else can be said about it. Never was a fan of the airline industry. I usually fly business so I’m always comfortable, but having said that not everyone has or can afford this luxury and that’s where the airlines makes their money, meanwhile, over in economy they try to cram in as many seats as they possibly can while giving the illusion and saying as a marketing gimmick, the newer planes are more comfortable and roomier and that just isn’t the case. I have flown a few times in economy and i thought it was horrible, uncomfortable and the industry treats people more like packed sardines than an actual paying customer and all that greed is not pushing the airline industry to make better changes, this plane and the economy section doesn’t look comfortable at all. I pray one day the industry will think about this, they ask for so much money to fly places, the very least they can do is to make people in economy more comfortable, happy and less stress. People over greed and profits.

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I think it's only the 737 max that has the MCAS system.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

As rainyday elluded to, Boeing doesn't have good street cred at the moment, and more bad news is coming in the form of forthcoming criminal negligence suits . I reckon some people in Boeing and the FAA won't be around much longer.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

@Chris Rennie - Airline control systems software development is not the same as your everyday Windows OS development. There is no ctrl-alt-delete option when flying a plane, or Support desk telling you to wait for the next release to fix that bug. It either works or you potentially loose planes - as has happened here.

What's happened here, is that Boeing messed up, and pulled the wool over the FAA's eyes by simply being allowed to signoff on their own safety tests... The 737 Max should be scrapped - it's inherently unstable, due to the positioning of the new engines and that's why MCAS was developed to take center stage.

What needs to happen now, is for Criminal charges to be filed over the Management at all levels involved in this "project", no one single person should take the fall. And hopefully, as a result the Industry will start taking a look at safety as not an optional extra... which again Boeing sold separately.

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To backup what I was saying about the 737 Max (which is, a new aircraft as part of the 737 series...)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2019/04/02/mit-expert-highlights-divergent-condition-caused-by-737-max-engine-placement/#6709818340aa

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Also, you can get a bit more technical information here:

http://www.b737.org.uk/737maxdiffs.htm

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

In older Boeing planes the seat cushions could be used as a floatation device ... in the seat pocket of the new 787-10 the safety card states in case of an emergency the seat cushion is also a parachute....

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and the industry treats people more like packed sardines than an actual paying customer and all that greed is not pushing the airline industry to make better changes,

Why are you against capitalism?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Sorry unless your Boeing is guaranteed to be built at Everett I am not flying in it. Boeing is sacrificing production over quality. We saw the catastrophe of the MAX 8 and your 787’s may or may not have structual issues with the fuselage we don’t know as the quality assurance program only tests the whole plane not the production testing as required.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Seats in a 3-3-3 configuration on a 787 is terribly uncomfortable. Even if, like me, you are not physically big, you can hardly sit back in the seat without touching the person next to you. I try to avoid flying on airlines with this seat layout as much as possible.

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The seats do look too cramped in this layout, I agree. I like the 787 as an aircraft and ANA as an airline, but this seating arrangement is a bit too squeezy. Flew in a 787-10 last year from KIX-SIN and it was a beautiful plane, made more comfortable by having an exit row seat. But jammed in the middle between two others would not be as much fun.

Next week flying to Australia on a JAL 787-8 with the Sky Wider seating, so it'll be interesting to see how it compares as it's a 2-4-2 arrangement and we have a window/aisle seat pair.

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