Auto unions seek 1st base-pay hike in 2 years on recovery from pandemic

There's only one fallacy in this debate. And, it ain't mine.

Um, you were the one that said it was only going to cost $60-$80. The only way that's not a fallacy is if there is a word that means fallacy times millions.

Strangerland

It won't be $60-$80 (it will be in yen first of all).

Seriously? That's your first go-to? Yikes.

I'm not saying it's enough to break the industry, but I'm pointing out the fallacy of your logic

There's only one fallacy in this debate. And, it ain't mine.

Larr Flint

All good but what if there won't be work anymore in auto sector?

Yeah, right. Henry Ford, the greatest industrialist of all time, paid his workers double the going rate. He said a carmaker needs to pay his workers well, because they are eventually its car-buying customers, and customers of all types of consumer goods. Ford's highly influential policies help grow the US middle class in the early to mid 20th century , turning America into the world's most prosperous society.

The idea that high workers' wages destroys industries isn't just wrong -- it's beyond wrong.

Unions in Japan may as well be working for the companies they are meant to be holding to account! Toothless tigers the lot of them !

You think a $60-$80 per month raise is going to bring down Japan's largest industry, do you?

It won't be $60-$80 (it will be in yen first of all). It will be that number times the number of employees - and that number can suddenly get extremely large.

I'm not saying it's enough to break the industry, but I'm pointing out the fallacy of your logic.

Larr Flint

All good but what if there won't be work anymore in auto sector? What then?

You think a $60-$80 per month raise is going to bring down Japan's largest industry, do you?

Cricky

Why do these greedy workers want more? ...yadda yadda...corporate bootlicking...nonsense nonsense...

You're being sarcastic right? Either that, or you're in management at a Japanese auto company. Otherwise, I can't imagine anyone with any compassion towards their fellow man writing such cold-hearted, mean-spirited, anti-working class, pro-corporate screed.

@Cricky OUT WITH THE OLD WAY! IN WITH A NEW WAY OF DOING BUSINESS!!

Why do these SO CALLED greedy workers want more? Perhaps these workers don't want to continue to living in a bubble and feeling like robots to move out of company housing and grow up and live as they see fit and perhaps earn more money get a bank loan and buy their own home insteady of living in shoddy company housing. They don't want a bus to to take them to and from work to company housing they want freedom. Every company I know has a cafeteria why not be able to go out to your the local community pub and eat lunch with a coworker. You say its "easy street". I call it A TOTALLY CONTROLLED WORK ENVIRONMENT from the moment these employees get up to go to work and back homes. I see nothing wrong with the company supplying work uniforms because they are doing a job. LMFAO you wrote "And these people want more" YES THEY WANT MORE if anything they want FREEDOM! I can't believe you wrote "unbelievable. It’s not like they have a brain" wow I won't question who has one after reading your post!

Why do these greedy workers want more? They have company housing so no need for a bank loan. A bus to to take them to work and back to the company housing. A community eating hall. Really it’s easy street. Company even supplies clothing. And these people want more?

unbelievable. It’s not like they have a brain?

Why do these greedy workers want more? They have company housing so no need for a bank loan. A bus to to take them to work and back to the company housing. A community eating hall. Really it’s easy street. Company even supplies clothing. And these people want more?

unbelievable. It’s not like they have a brain?

Never thought about it, but yes, the automotive industry would have a big impact on worker's compensation just like Ford did back in the day. Hope this leads us all in the right direction.

They are asking for next to nothing ! Damn

It's just crumbs isn't it. Sad that that is even considered a pay rise. I think anything less than 5% is an insult.

Imagine a strike in Japan if the car companies do not agree. Lol, it is not happening.

Grow some balls......Auto unions and support the people that actually pay your salaries.