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> Mike WyckoffToday 07:15 pm JST

Maybe mine is off too but would it not work out to more like ¥100,000? If ¥3000 is roughly 3% then surely 100% is roughly ¥100,000.

at first I got that number too. But there is no way on earth, full-time seishain workers are getting 100,000 that’s below minimum wage!

I agree. Where did you get 209059yen from though?

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a raise of 3,000yen at 2.87% of wages would put the average base wage salary at ¥209059.

Does that hat seem a bit low to anyone else? No wonder the economy isn’t booming!

It's 2.87% of the base wage. Add in overtime and various allowances (dependents' allowance, housing allowance, location allowance, rank allowance, etc.) to make a (barely) living wage.

They calculate all the increases, bonuses, etc., from the base wage.

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Maybe mine is off too but would it not work out to more like ¥100,000? If ¥3000 is roughly 3% then surely 100% is roughly ¥100,000.

at first I got that number too. But there is no way on earth, full-time seishain workers are getting 100,000 that’s below minimum wage!

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This is ten years old, but an informative look at what Japanese automakers take in salary.

https://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/89-63605.aspx#startofcomments

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@yubaru I think it means Toyota Motor Corp pay 6.6 months, and Subaru Corp pay 6 months respectively as one-off bonuses.

Ok even so, no Japanese manufautuer has ever paid that out in one bonus. Over the course of the 2, in two separate payments sure.

Never heard of any Japanese company that only pays a bonus once in a year.

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> Mike WyckoffToday 05:06 pm JST

But even if the request of Toyota's union is fully met, the monthly pay hike will only be 2.87 

Maybe my math is off, but a raise of 3,000yen at 2.87% of wages would put the average base wage salary at ¥209059.

Does that hat seem a bit low to anyone else? No wonder the economy isn’t booming!

Maybe mine is off too but would it not work out to more like ¥100,000? If ¥3000 is roughly 3% then surely 100% is roughly ¥100,000.

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@yubaru I think it means Toyota Motor Corp pay 6.6 months, and Subaru Corp pay 6 months respectively as one-off bonuses.

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Many of the unions here work very closely with management and do little to upset them, and seek more to maintain harmony between the two groups. Management even assign representatives to the unions, knowing that they will act in their favour, and prevent disruption. Japan is much closer to the German model with workers associations and union and management councils, seeking consensus, rather than the combative, confrontational UK/ US approach.

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All Unions I have belonged to here in Japan were in house, I liked it better that way, no long strikes, and you get a fair deal most of the time, not like America, where they want way too much, and strike way too often!

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They have also requested 6.6 and 6 months' worth of salary, respectively, for one-time bonuses.

That 6.6 and 6.0....the semi annual bonuses? Think about that a second, they are asking for basically over one year's salary (equivalent) in two bonuses?

Me thinks there is a serious misprint here! Typically unions ask for a total to be paid in two installments, summer and winter, for a total of 6 months worth of wages.

No company, even during the bubble years paid out over 1 years worth of wages in bonuses for factory workers.

There is a serious error in the reporting here!

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For workers In Japan, job security is more important than temporary pay raise. They are married to the companies. They want companies last long. "Hire and Fire" American employment system does not make workers happy.

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unions in japan are useless because they will never strike even if the manufacturers abuse the workers literally to death. no power.

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But even if the request of Toyota's union is fully met, the monthly pay hike will only be 2.87 

Maybe my math is off, but a raise of 3,000yen at 2.87% of wages would put the average base wage salary at ¥209059.

Does that hat seem a bit low to anyone else? No wonder the economy isn’t booming!

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I’ll save everyone from reading and summarize with this.

Automaker “unions” push for higher wages but due to the high yen at this very moment, companies push back and say no. The government insists that the companies increase wages but as big business rules Japan, they hmm and haw and say “muzukashi ne.”

the end

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I didn't even know Japanese workers had ANY unions... you learn something new every day.

They aren’t unions, but “unions”.

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I didn't even know Japanese workers had ANY unions... you learn something new every day.

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