Boeing's long-delayed 787 Dreamliner arrives in Japan

hmmm... about time...

Typical of Japan though. To get a technological innovation from overseas, which has already undergone rigorous testing in several countries, but Japanese management will literally pick this plane apart and test every single component! Seen it happen with computer servers in a company I used to work at, where the foreign owner of that company eventually had to put his foot down and start the servers himself!

Sometimes Japan, just turn it on and / or, use it. Sometimes things 'just work' because they can!

Typical of Japan though. To get a technological innovation from overseas, which has already undergone rigorous testing in several countries, but Japanese management will literally pick this plane apart and test every single component!

Seeing that many components of the 787 are made in Japan and sent to Boeing for final assembly, would they be "double testing" teir own technology? At least the Japanese have the courtesy of licensing US and EU tech, as opposed to the Chinese (i.e., Siemens/Kawasaki HSR trains which are supposedly Chinese technology...)

Typical of Japan though. To get a technological innovation from overseas, which has already undergone rigorous testing in several countries, but Japanese management will literally pick this plane apart and test every single component! Seen it happen with computer servers in a company I used to work at, where the foreign owner of that company eventually had to put his foot down and start the servers himself

A bit out of topic, but definitely not typical of Japan. Every developed country, and moreso every big company that handles and puts billions at risk will test the equipment they use before allowing it to be used. What if a server "Made in China" suddenly blows and ruins the banking data for 1 million customers? Having additional testing before allowing it to be used is never bad, especially in aerospace and automotive. Remember, people have died because there was a 2mm crack somewhere, sometimes...

Here is the video link from Ustream they mentioned <>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ana-boeing787<>

One of the many reasons for delay was the fact that Kyocera, who manufacture the seats, falsified fire retardent data on the seat material. Google it and you can read the details.

@ techall

It's Koito not Kyocera, Kyocera is a company that specializes in IC not seats. As for Koito's seats, they were not selected for 787 so it has nothing to do with one or the other.

@SamuraiBlue: You are right, my bad it is Koito ( I was going from memory and I knew it bagan with a "K"). Anyway I was recruited to work for Biong as an inspector on the project and they said it was for the 787 project. I didn't take the job so maybe they cancelled the 787 part.

@SamuraiBlue: They both make navigation light lenses.

As a frequent ANA flyer, this is very welcome news. I can't wait to fly on it!

Typical of Japan though. To get a technological innovation from overseas, which has already undergone rigorous testing in several countries, but Japanese management will literally pick this plane apart and test every single component!

If you were spending billions of yen per plane and hundreds of lives are depending on the design of the plane being 100% foolproof, wouldn't YOU not assume and test the hell out of it yourself/ I sure would if I had the resources.

There's not really any such thing as a commercial airliner that's too safe. Check it, check it again, check that again, check it some more.

It's time US and Japan form an alliance and share science and technology to counter China the copylion. 787 is a good start.

Looks like a nice plane, wonder what the first routes will be?

I Believe the wings are manufactured by TORAY a japanese carbon fibre company....

@ tmtmsnb

It won't be an exclusive deal since major Japanese manufacturers had already signed on with Airbus engines to provide high performance ceramic engine parts and light weight & highly durable carbon composite engine rotor fans.

"The cabin will have... larger overhead compartments"

I bet the thoughtless passengers will still fill them up with their oversized luggage to the point where there's no room for my one small bag.

Even if there are larger overhead compartments, the Japanese travel agents will tell the Japanese travelers about it so they can fill them with a lot more duty free. Duty free should be put in the hull.

Duty free should be put in the hull.

You have no idea how much my wife can buy given just a few minutes before bording a plane...

ihavegreatlegsJul. 05, 2011 - 12:04AM JST

Even if there are larger overhead compartments, the Japanese travel agents will tell the Japanese travelers about it so they can fill them with a lot more duty free. Duty free should be put in the hull.

You mean the Japanese travel agents will tell the Japanese tourists.......

Most Japanese business travellers (like myself) do not do what you claim in your post.

I wish they used newer planes for the more "blue-collar" routes to the US as well though; as opposed to the New Yorks and LA's.... oh well, I guess that's where the money is.

If you were spending billions of yen per plane and hundreds of lives are depending on the design of the plane being 100% foolproof, wouldn't YOU not assume and test the hell out of it yourself/ I sure would if I had the resources.

There's not really any such thing as a commercial airliner that's too safe. Check it, check it again, check that again, check it some more.

@Smork

I agree 100% "Air force one" gets inspected from top to bottom after every single flight, not only that, but they constantly a few times a year, completely replace the entire engines and why is that, to ensure the safety of the President, so I think why not with your average ordinary air traveller. People's lives are on the line, new technology, the wings are of a composite carbon graphite material, so leave no stone unturned. Concord used to be all the rage, remember what happened with that plane....

tmtmsnb said-

It's time US and Japan form an alliance and share science and technology to counter China the copylion. 787 is a good start.

Japan and USA already do share tecnology in USA military planes, Dreamliner, space program etc. I agree, don't give China anything.

Not taking sides here as both the dreamliner and the new airbus have a lot of carbon fiber in their 'composites'. I think this is a mistaken road we are taking. Hundreds and hundreds of these planes will be coming into service.

The smoke from burning carbon fiber will be lethal in an accident. Laws are already being passed to keep ordinary unprotected people from getting close and trying to rescue anyone after a crash. The passengers will not have much chance in a fire, breathing that smoke.

So many evolving safety features in new cars aimed at minimal casualties in accidents. Why not in new planes?

There is also some concern about lightning strikes, but they have passed the initial tests so far.

To those who state that there is no problem, I would say wait until we have had the first fire, and then give us your opinion.

Not meaning to rain on anyone's parade. Apart from the above I think it's a cool plane! :8)

What a beautiful plane. It looks really nice in the ANA livery

Americans make the best airliners

The wings are made by Mitsubishi.

One primary reason for outsourcing is to reduce corporate tax in the country that Boeing has major sales. Corporate tax rate is often quite high in large countries such as Japan and China. To reduce the tax, Boeing set up factories or sub-contract there and import parts from that country.