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China attacks foreign clothing, shoe brands over sanctions

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Time for these companies to stop producing in China altogether. Also time for the US and other western nations to establish a trade embargo of China. Big middle finger to the middle kingdom.

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Reject China’s Communist regime, and the Chinese market so long as that regime exists.

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Bravo H&M, bravo Nike, bravo all the companies who cares about human rights. Hopefully other companies will follow..

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I completely support the statements of these companies but as long as they produce an important part of their products and sell them in China they do sound hollow words.

lets move all and every manufacturing out of China. I can not do more then I do now because i do not buy anything manufactured in China.

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At some point the West is going to have to confront China economically and/or militarily. Im no big fan of a certain rel i gion but these people are being sterilized and mistreated yet Biden's America does nothing of substance. Furthermore, where are S Arabia and other Mus lim countries in taking collective action against Communist China? If a bully continues to get away with things, he will continue to bully more!

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 If a bully continues to get away with things, he will continue to bully more!

Please verify which country you are referring to. Think about why the majority of Americans prefer cheap well made clothes...

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Respect to those brands. They have a new customer in me.

Love China - hate the Chinese government.

Their further economic rise is not inevitable - supply chains are being localized in the wake of the pandemic and industry 4.0.

Most importantly, history teaches us that all autocratic regimes are ultimately unsustainable, no matter how impregnable they may at 1st appear.

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I'm sorry but it's a biy hypocritical, so I gotta call it. How long have these companies been exploiting the situation? They knew what they were getting into, and China thought they were all idiots, because one day the chickens would come home to roost, and they have. These companies need to also apologize to their home countries as well, if all of these things are found to be true.

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"For enterprises that touch the bottom line of our country, the response is very clear: don't buy!" China Central Television said on its social media account. It said the 'H' and 'M' in the Swedish name stood for Chinese words meaning lie and falsehood.

The Chinese communist party is speaking about itself too?

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Just “DON’T Go There”.

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It is time to shift production to other countries including India. In addition, there are quite a few South American, African, and Eastern European countries that would also like some of that work.

Two can play that game China!

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Tesra aggressively began establishing its factory in China.

on the other hand ,recently China started to reject to buy or use the car because of information secure by camera installed on the car.

Is it correct way to invest factory in totalitarian countries?

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New rules, play fair.

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LMFAO *China Central Television said on its social media account. It said the 'H' and 'M' in the Swedish name **stood for Chinese words meaning lie and falsehood. ***SO THAT MEANS the world over know that CHINA the letter C in plain English stood for Corrupt, and Crazy.**

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"For enterprises that touch the bottom line of our country, the response is very clear: don't buy!"

I agree with China on this one. Don't buy - anything from China.

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I'm sorry but it's a biy hypocritical, so I gotta call it. How long have these companies been exploiting the situation?

It's not that simple. The received wisdom for decades was that "engagement" with China would gradually over time bring more freedom and eventually perhaps some level of democratic governance. After all this worked for South Korea and Taiwan, both of which were initially brutal dictatorships not a whole lot better than Mao's China. Don't forget how many South Koreans were killed by their own military forces in 1980 during the anti martial law demonstrations at Chonnam University where about 191 were killed followed by the much larger Gwangju Uprising where upwards of 2000 were killed. That was South Korea's Tiananmen Square. All through this western firms did business with South Korea and the two tragedies ultimately led to South Korea democratizing. So engagement was the model.

There is also the little detail of the sheer size of the Chinese market. No corporation could ignore that and not expect a shareholder revolt. And it looked good from Deng through Hu Jintao. Under Hu's administration there were some small local elections going on to test the waters of democracy and there was a serious debate about allowing private land ownership. China wasn't building man-made islands in the South China Sea or otherwise creating a lot of problems for their neighbors. Hong Kong was still free, the Uyghurs were not being suppressed nor were the Mongolians in Inner Mongolia. The rise of Xi Jinping has changed all of this, but by the time he became CCP General Secretary and President of China western firms were firmly entrenched in the Chinese economy. Now the problem is how to separate from China at minimum cost to the west.

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Now the problem is how to separate from China at minimum cost to the west.

Unfortunately, it will never happen without a major disruption, and that won't happen without a hit to the west.

But the alternative is that we continue on as the frogs, continuously putting coins into the machine that boils the water.

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Unfortunately, it will never happen without a major disruption, and that won't happen without a hit to the west.

You know what? I think I will see it in my lifetime, maybe within a decade unless there is an internal revolt within the CCP that removes Xi Jinping from power. The trajectory of Xi Jinping's accelerating aggressiveness and internal repression is such that I think it is almost inevitable he will do something that is so outrageous the west will be forced to act. Knowing how Xi never backs down and always doubles down a major conflict with the west seems unavoidable. It is just not in Xi to take step back.

The great unknown is whether factions within the CCP have the ability and the willingness to push Xi aside. I don't think too many in the west understand how hated Xi is within the CCP or how so much of the party membership is living in fear for their lives and the lives of their families. Xi survived at least one such coup attempt in late summer or early fall of 2017 prompting him to remove term limits for his offices and to remove the age limits for members of the Politburo so he could keep his few but most trusted acolytes in power with him. Xi was kind of a nobody in the party until he was selected as General Secretary as a compromise candidate where the two biggest factions in the party could not agree on one of their own. He was only known as the husband of a famous Chinese folk singer, not so much for his own accomplishments. He was seen as a weak figurehead. Big surprise what followed. Power in Chine relies on developing patronage armies who advance with their patron. As the patron moves up the party hierarchy he brings his faction along and up with him or her. Xi, lacking the large patronage army behind him his peers had has resorted to harsh repression of other top party officials and their patronage armies. With their patrons in jail for "corruption" there are a lot of lower level party officials who detest Xi and want him gone. They likewise live in fear they could be the subject of the next corruption show trial. If Xi keeps making enemies within (now he is after the Inner Mongolians, he just can't seem to keep his temper in check) and hurting Chinas economic prospects given time these other party factions may come together and depose Xi. We might be treated to a show trial along the lines of that of The Gang of Four. What comes after that may be interesting.

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I forgot to mention that those CCP leaders derive a lot of their internal power from the size and competence of those patronage armies I mentioned. It is those lower level party members who carry out their patrons policies. Their success determines the promotability of their patron, and when the patron promotes everyone below promotes.

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I'd like to say "Don't buy from China", but that's a high hurdle...for now.

My message is "Buy LESS from China".

The fewer items we buy from the communists, the better off we are in the long term.

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