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The world's second largest economy is bracing for a wave of infections as it relaxes a "zero-COVID" policy, winding down a campaign of hunting out and isolating infections

This is especially worrying for China given its low Covid immunity among the elderly, and the fact that it continues to rely on less effective domestic vaccines.

Current figures from Chinese authorities show only 69% of those aged above 60 and 40% of those over 80 have had a booster shot. 

Accelerating the vaccinations will remain a challenge given the continued distrust in vaccines among the elderly.

More so, China still has a patchy healthcare infrastructure which suffered from a a slowdown in investment during the pandemic. In many places, people continue to rely on hospitals for even basic treatment

And any data that can be used to get a real picture of the task ahead and allow officials to predict a suitable course of action is false and unreliable.  Dr Li, who blew the whistle on covid was punished by Chinese authorities for spreading "false statements" and later died from Covid as he battled to save patients. His death prompted public grief and anger. And more recently the lies about the world was going through Covid hell and citizens should consider themselves lucky to live in China where they were being kept safe. Luckily the televised World Cup called a lie on that. There needs to be more truth and no repression for things to get better fast.

In conclusion, bad management and leadership means dropping restrictions now, with no preparation is pretty bad timing. This should and could have been done in spring this year like everywhere else. And should have been a priority for the officials.

But we all knew that from the start so thankfully the protests worked.

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The point,if employers will not protect the public,the law will,

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Manufacturers and eateries keen to stay open in China are preferring to err on the side of caution, by retaining COVID-19 curbs until they get a clearer picture of just how workplaces will be affected by the easing of stringent measures.

As the most successful country at implementing a covid strategy as evidenced by it having the lowest number of infections and related deaths in the world according to global health professionals and government statistics, China continues to frustrate the West, and the WHO agency, which have been rooting against China ----for almost three years, as Western nations such as Australia and New Zealand saw extremely high covid infection and death rates along with recessions and continued economic woes.

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It does not have the lowest rates of deaths, just the lowest reported numbers, which is completely different, if other countries follow the same way there are many that have demonstrated better success, and even more by not producing deaths and ruin by insisting on unsustaineble measures that are not even necessary nor effective anymore.

And no, the unnamed professionals you always try to make an appeal but can never reference are by this point clearly something that do not exist. The people frustrated by the CCP refusal to accept reality are the Chinese, not the global experts.

Or as you yourself have agreed with, countries like Sweden have done much better by protecting their populations without using lockdowns, your arguments would prove China has been wrong.

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China continues to frustrate the West, and the WHO agency,

Lol. The "West" and World Health Organisation are more bemused rather than frustrated. It's like watching a neighbour wreck their own house.

according to global health professionals

Who? Sources please. Thanks.

government statistics, 

From the government who silenced Dr Li, hid the initial outbreak, tells their population the rest of world is suffering worse than China, until the World Cup showed a different story, that led to the detainment of protestors who instigated the unthinkable only last month that resulted in a major embarrassing flip-flip from the party.

Bearing these facts that can't be ignored in mind, you are clutching at straws by resting your laurels on gov stats. Lol

But, it seems the same old story is being rehashed yet again. So the next step is for China to admit their stats are fiddled. Let's wait and see what happens when that one is dropped.

Australia and New Zealand saw extremely high covid infection and death rates along with recessions and continued economic woes.

No news on Antarctica's recession?

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It does not have the lowest rates of deaths, just the lowest reported numbers, which is completely different, if other countries follow the same way there are many that have demonstrated better success, and even more by not producing deaths and ruin by insisting on unsustaineble measures that are not even necessary nor effective anymore.

Another conspiracy theory!

You mean other countries do not under report, even though experts say they do?

I will listen to the experts.

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Another conspiracy theory!

Do you understand what a conspriacy theory is? repeating the criticism that the own Chinese experts have raised do not need any conspiracy theory, it is a well described problem.

You mean other countries do not under report, even though experts say they do?

Which other countries have experts saying they hide more than 90% of the deaths? specially those countries with a very successful control of the pandemic (the example you have brought was Sweden). What references do you have of the same systematic underreporting on those?

I will listen to the experts.

Like the WHO that clearly said this approach was unsustainable, proved by the CCP failing to sustain it?

It is very telling you failed to address the arguments other commenters have also written.

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I will listen to the experts.

WHO are top of heir field and highly respected.

WHO chief says China's zero-Covid policy is not 'sustainable'

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/05/11/who-chief-says-chinas-zero-covid-policy-is-not-sustainable.html

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Then listen to the experts.,.

Medical experts say [an increasingly fierce system of controls] was a wasted window of opportunity to protect the population and prepare the healthcare system for a wave of sick patients.

Economists hail end to zero Covid in China but huge human toll is feared

Low rate of vaccination of elderly and a lack of natural immunity mean country may be in for a bumpy ride

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/11/economists-hail-end-to-zero-covid-in-china-but-huge-human-toll-is-feared

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Asians in general are not as overweight or diabetic as their western counterparts (remember high death rates in US and Italy?) But there will be deaths, unfortunately. After China let’s covid run its course, back to life as normal I hope?

Russia/Ukraine and China/Taiwan plus Mr Kim aside, let’s get back to trading and traveling. Indians, Americans, Chinese we work (many more countries too of course, just can’t name them all) and trade, with the surplus we travel and enjoy time there. I look forward to that.

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"It won’t relax any time soon," he added, saying the mill wanted to hold down infections as much as possible with the system in which workers live and work onsite, isolated from the wider world.

Nice going China. Stay the course, while the rest of the world still struggles after its disastrous Covid strategies that resulted in millions of deaths and crumbling economies such as in Australia and New Zealand.

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Nice going China. Stay the course, while the rest of the world still struggles after its disastrous Covid strategies that resulted in millions of deaths and crumbling economies such as in Australia and New Zealand.

This is not at all "nice" for the Chinese population, and Australia and New Zealand are not "the rest of the world", as you personally have agreed with, other countries have done much better than China, such as Sweden.

It is also important that very clear proof of systematic hiding of cases and deaths is present, which means China is doing much worse than what it is presenting.

https://www.ft.com/content/abefb06e-a5a7-432b-85bf-b3250b53836f

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This is not at all "nice" for the Chinese population, and Australia and New Zealand are not "the rest of the world", as you personally have agreed with, other countries have done much better than China, such as Sweden.

It is extremely nice for China and in English, when words "such as" are used, this means for example--of course, you cannot list any country that has done better than China in keeping infections the lowest in the world because China is the leader in that category, and China is the only country with positive growth the entire covid crisis, so you can't name any country that has done better.

Strange though you tout Sweden at this stage as a success.

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It is extremely nice for China

Chinese people being at an increased risk for the failure of their government to protect them even having years to do it is not nice.

and in English, when words "such as" are used, this means for example--of course,

But your point completely depends on the "rest of the world" being in the same situation as your examples, which is false, even according to your own comments that consider Sweden an excellent strategy by not using the counterproducitve and inefficient lockdowns that the Chinese government relied on until now.

you cannot list any country that has done better than China in keeping infections the lowest in the world because China is the leader in that category

You yourself said Sweden was better than China, which is easier to do because the Chinese strategy is not about reducing the impact of the pandemic, it is about reducing the reported impact, which you make no effort in arguing against, meaning you accept the source is valid and demonstrate China is doing much worse than what it is reporting.

Strange though you tout Sweden at this stage as a success.

As the comment clearly says, it is you who thinks Sweden is a better examples of how to deal with the pandemic, not me.

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Millions of Chinese died from the covid and prison-style lockins denying medical treatments to millions.

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China's easing of Covid restrictions was expected to unfold more slowly. Then came street protests, in city after city, with demonstrators demanding their old lives back.

This was the straw that broke zero-Covid's back.

The government "heard the voice of the protesters" but acknowledges that easing restrictions is not the ideal choice for them in terms of timing.

So the protesters have won, but the speed of the cave-in from the government has left many vulnerable people like the elderly people afraid to leave their homes.

Then we have this important comment:

Chinese people being at an increased risk for the failure of their government to protect them even having years to do it is not nice.

To which Painkiller says: "There is no evidence and of course you provide no source."

If you need a source (which are front page news at the minute) to know that China's hospitals are already under so much pressure, following the country's rapid 180-degree shift in Covid policy, that doctors and nurses could be infecting patients, then you aren't really trying to properly understand the situation, are you?

To help you, this means medical staff who've been infected have been required to work in the hospitals which creates a transmission environment there (and the source is), says Chen Xi, a Chinese professor specialising in health policy has been monitoring the crisis in his home country from Yale University in the United States.

There is plenty of evidence the government has not and is not protecting the population. Do some research before making such outlandish dismissive comments.

And whatever you do, stop the faux zero policy supporting. It's so yesterday.

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This source makes excellent reading. Thanks for the link!

China’s disappearing data stokes fears of hidden Covid wave

https://www.ft.com/content/abefb06e-a5a7-432b-85bf-b3250b53836f

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