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Company bosses and workers grapple with fallout of speaking up about Israel-Hamas war

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By ALEXANDRA OLSON, ANNE D'INNOCENZIO and HALELUYA HADERO

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".....saying in a LinkedIn post that she was “risking her entire career” by expressing her views on the conflict."

I'd love hear her "views." LOL. If they're along the lines of hoping that civilian lives are spared and for a quick end of the conflict, then she faces no risk at all. But if it's along the lines of praising Hitler and his genocide of the Jews -- as was done by that young woman who was fired by Citibank last week -- then, yeah, her career will be put on ice. Welcome to the world.

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We need huge safeguards put into effect on what employers can consider when offering employment: basically nothing that isn't job related. Maybe this whole episode will cause people to rethink the value of anonymity online which they frequently throw away.

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Welcome to the new world where you have different views you get canceled, fired, muted or down voted. Free speech, if we agree or not with the person, doesn't exist anymore. Better to keep your political, social, sexual or environmental ideas/ opinions to yourself.

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Welcome to the new world where you have different views you get canceled, fired, muted or down voted.

That has always happened, the difference now is that social medial makes it very easy for people to spread out opinions on polemic topics without considering how those opinions could be taken.

Free speech, if we agree or not with the person, doesn't exist anymore

That is not what free speech means, pretending it means other people will have no right to react against what you express makes no sense and it is self-defeating.

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The left have been canceling people for years and vehemently defended the practice, just 1 event targeting the left and suddenly they are complaining. Dint dish it out if you cannot take it

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People are so self-important these days that they feel they need to "weigh in" on every major current event, as if the world is waiting with bated breath for Joe Shmo from Tuskaloose to let us know his thoughts on the war. News flash: Nobody cares.

Also, I don't care what a company's politics are, just sell me the product I'm giving you money for.

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Cosgrave got a lot of support on the professional tech forums.

Stop politicising trade (and every other aspect of life). Companies should focus on what they do, rather than ham-fisted virtue-signalling.

The continuing tribalisation of society will end in WWIII. You won't enjoy it as much as you thought you would.

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Welcome to the new world where you have different views you get canceled, fired, muted or down voted. Free speech, if we agree or not with the person, doesn't exist anymore. Better to keep your political, social, sexual or environmental ideas/ opinions to yourself.

It's funny that you say that but my parents were brought up during the Great Depression and both served in the US Army during WWII. Both of my parents always taught me that two things you never, ever, discussed in polite company, in the ranks of the military or at your place of work were politics and religion. You just didn't. Those two subjects were strictly off limits. I can say that in my own time in the military I never knew the religion or party affiliation if any of my fellow officers, but this was some 40 years ago. We could do worse than revive that ethic.

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The left have been canceling people for years and vehemently defended the practice, just 1 event targeting the left and suddenly they are complaining. Dint dish it out if you cannot take it

It is older than that. You may recall the Hollywood black lists, all those writers, producers, directors and actors accused of being sympathetic to Communism in the 1950s who were run out of the studios and denied work.

And then you have people like my father who were far from unique who, after having served in the US Army during WWII, absolutely refused to buy anything from Japan, Germany or interestingly Sweden, who he held a lifelong grudge against for refusing to sell the brass mill he worked at before joining the US Army some critical item they needed for their overhead buckets that only came from Sweden who sold them instead to the Germans. I have no idea if the story was true or not but when I once suggested they replace the old "Clunker" (1954 Plymouth) with a Saab I got an angry earful from my old man.

My Dad was from New England and held a life long grudge against southerners too that was aggravated by bad experiences with the locals during his boot camp at what was then called Camp Gordon. I can still hear him cussing "Gawdam Johnny Rebs". Cancel culture or whatever is as old as humanity.

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A company's purpose is to make business, not get involved in politics. Done.

It is the damned if you do, damned if you don't problem no one wants to face.

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A company's purpose is to make business, not get involved in politics

A company’s purpose is whatever they company decides it’s purpose is. If they are profitable than they can continue that purpose as long as they’d like.

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During my dad's time at Camp Gordon a lot of the recruits were hardened factory workers from New England, guys in their late 20s to late 30s used to hard physical work in the factories of that era. My old man wasn't alone in his animosity towards southerners, including the Army drill instructors. Some of those factory workers in his boot camp company were so offended by being ordered around by "gawdamm Johnny rebs" that at least some of them beat the living daylights out of some southern drill instructors. They were there to kill Germans and Japanese and weren't about to take some lip from a southerner they disliked almost as much as they disliked the Germans! There were fights and some got booted from the Army over it.

When my old man came down for my officer candidate school graduation he saw the Marine Corps DIs in full song with a new class of candidates. He was speechless. After watching them he turned to me and said "when I was in the Army if the DIs had said those things to us we'd have killed them. Here is what I went through and what stunned my old man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mikS7qQSN0

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What I find remarkable is that given all the shouting and screaming online and elsewhere, very, very, few people know the real history of what has happened in Israel and Palestine over the last 70yrs.

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Tough call but best to do your work and keep your political views for the ballot box. Some may learn the hard way.

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"""Starbucks accused a union representing thousands of its baristas of damaging the brand and endangering co-workers with a pro-Palestinian tweet. The CEO of a prominent tech conference is facing boycotts after he publicly suggested Israel was committing war crimes. Company bosses have vowed never to hire members of a university's student groups that condemned Israel."""

This is what we call BLACKMALING and TERRORIMS.

Vowing not to hire those who speak up and stand for the truth is BLACKMAILNG, this is how terrorism works.

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very, very, few people know the real history of what has happened in Israel and Palestine over the last 70yrs

I suspect no-one knows the full history of that area, including those that live there. What we read, hear or experience will likely be different from what others read, hear or experience. What is perhaps more important is what people want to happen, and that is complicated. We have Muslims who want to remove Jews from the area, we have Jews who want to expand their territory, and we probably have a fairly powerless majority who just want to offer their children prospects for a decent life.

It's depressing and I have no solution. But for the religious of all sides, if you believe in an all-powerful God, you surely have to admit s/he's not making a very good job of things.

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I studied Middle East History in college and was fascinated by that topic. This is a very unique area where three powerful continents (Europe, Asia and Africa) intersect and churn repeatedly.

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Israel has already suffered casualties in a Gaza raid,only insecure people has to convince the world that Hamas is a terror group,their actions has reenergize other Islamic group to get involved in the fight around the world, when a ground offensive is launched,all hell will break around the world,so people should should be careful,what they ask for ,it might not be what you wanted

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No Palestinian Justice,No Israelis Peace,unless Israel wish to send more of their soldiers to death in Gaza ,like the US did in Fullujah Google Israel Gaza Raid Google US Fullujah Deaths

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@ Yrral I read both of your post and I was surprised getting past the first one you did not say "GOGGLE" well you didn't let me down on the second post! Don't believe everything on GAGGLE!!! When in war you will win some and you will lose some if you spell WAR backwards you get exactly what it is RAW!!! Flesh and bones!

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“It’s my identity," Abuhasna said. "What good am I in my job if I compromise my own morals and ethics?”

This is not my field, but I believe if you publicize your support for a terrorist organization then your morals are already compromised.

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It look like Bibi government is about to collapse,3 Minister are about too quit,he will not outlast Hamas Google Times of Israel Google Harreetz Google Jerusalem Times

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The first six books of the Christian Old Testament are the same as the Torah. If you read these you will see the root of the problem. According to both Jewish and Christian holy books God told Moses that the Jews would be given their promised land only if they killed every man woman and child of God's enemies there, which included the Canaanite people of the region including the Philistines. For some ultra religious Jews those commandments remain valid today.

Add to this the Evangelical Christian view popular in the US that a hegemonic Israel at war with its neighbors is a necessary precondition for Armageddon, the final war depicted in the last book of the Christian New Testament, Revelations. that will lead to the second coming of Christ and their ascent into heaven (they assume they are all going to heaven because, well, they are Christian). Any barbarity by the Israelis is gleefully overlooked, even cheered, because in their view it just makes the second coming happen that much sooner. It is unfortunately a view held by many members of the US Congress so US policy is once again held hostage by religious fundamentalism.

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Desert Tortoise -- What your comment says to me is that organized religion is oppressive to the point of madness. As an atheist, I resent that I have to die for some foolish religious tyranny. The government should be secular and independent of ghost fairies.

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Gene HennighToday 04:52 am JST

Desert Tortoise -- What your comment says to me is that organized religion is oppressive to the point of madness. As an atheist, I resent that I have to die for some foolish religious tyranny. The government should be secular and independent of ghost fairies.

Can't deny it won't be good if some troglodytes are squashed in the process of rolling out of a combined Israel Ukraine aid package, though.

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Company bosses and workers grapple with fallout of speaking up about Israel-Hamas war

Anyone speaking out in support of Hamas should receive fallout.

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We are no longer allowed to have even Academic discussions over the situation in the M.E without repercussion - what does that tell you about today's World order ?

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If the people are so concerned about Companies making a statement of bias against Palestine, then perhaps they should "collectively" compile a list of those Companies and refuse to do further business with them.

The operative word is "collective" .

Such a boycott would potentially have a huge impact - imagine the Saudi's and other Major Oil producing Countries in the M.E. suddenly blocking the supply of Oil to Countries in which those Companies Headquarters are based ?

There is a lot of injustice in this World at present, and dissent is often suppressed especially if it causes trouble for those with "Power"...

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