Consumer Reports pulls recommendation for Toyota Camry

Proves that Japanese cars are not safe. So much for the superiority of the Japanese craftsmanship.

As for reliability rankings, it's over rated. We're talking about, from best to worst, one problem per car for the best, as opposed to having two problems per car for the worst. Big deal. It's a tiny minute difference.

This is basically American car-makers throwing a temper tantrum.

This is basically American car-makers throwing a temper tantrum.

Consumer Reports is not a carmaker.

The American models all took hits

This is basically American car-makers throwing a temper tantrum.

Camry is made in US.

Camry is made in the US with imported Japanese parts. Also, I know Consumer Reports Is not an automaker, but to say that American nationalism didn't have a hand in this is naïve at best.

but to say that American nationalism didn't have a hand in this is naive at best.

Did you look where American cars are ranked?

When CR gives Japanese cars good rankings, people say that's testament of Japanese reliability. But when CR doesn't give them good recommendations, people complain it's nationalism. Well, which is it - is CR a reliable report or not? Can't have it both ways.

EU has ranked the Prius as a 5 star (top rated) and uses a similar (to my eyes) offset crash test. Wonder why the results are so different? http://www.euroncap.com/results/toyota/prius.aspx

What I'm saying is that American automotive companies can't compete with Japanese companies, so Americans whine and moan by filing frivolous lawsuits and basically launching propaganda a campaign against Toyota. .

Does this mean car buying is slowing down in US? Better sell US auto maker equities!

CR test everything. Very reliable. All automakers will improve reliability of their cars now. Not only cars but various products. They have experts in field to test. CR has CR annual auto issue etc beside CR. Many people in USA check CR Buyers Report before they go to heavy shopping.

Japanese cars have been essentially bulletproof for decades now. As worldwide standards and expectations have risen (due to the long-term high quality of Japanese cars), Japanese cars had nowhere to go but down. 25 years ago, 5 little defects might have cost half a point (or however CR scores). Now, those 5 little defects might be enough to drop a car off the charts.

By the same token, American cars had nowhere to go but up. They've gotten more reliable (except for the electronics, apparently) and more efficient. I still wouldn't have one, but I'm not worried to see my aged father driving a Ford.

CR reported cars marketed in USA as the magazine and reports are for USA people. Categories are small cars, Family Haulers, Sports Sedan. Pickup truck, Family SUV, Green Car, Family Sedan, Sporty Car., Not all automakers in USA make cars in all categories. Also, it must have all kind of experts to test. It is not easy to find nationalists auto test experts in USA. USA is the country of inter mixed marriages..

chucky3176Oct. 29, 2013 - 08:53AM JST As for reliability rankings, it's over rated. We're talking about, from best to worst, one problem per car for the best, as opposed to having two problems per car for the worst. Big deal. It's a tiny minute difference.

Overated? Tell that to the consumers. You cannot fool the conusmers. If you look at the five years old Camry and make a direct comparison to Malibu or Fusion, Camry is worth hundreds or thousands more on the resale value, and much easier to sell or get maximum in trade in. Who wants a five years old GM Malibu?

There aren't many cars from GM or Toyota that I'd buy. Not much excitement.

"American automotive companies can't compete with Japanese companies,"

How can that be when US companies are among the world's biggest? In China, the world's biggest and fast-growing market, GM is no. 1.