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Russia's Gazprom tells European buyers gas supply halt beyond its control

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The European are gonna catch hell ,this winter ,why American will be warm and cozy

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"...why American will be warm and cozy"

Why? You tell us...!

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well EU countries have imposed sanctions against Russia,one reason of sanctions is this maintenance thing caused by missing turbine...

all EU leaders want cut off their countries from russian gas and oil so sure there are no complaints at all from their side and they are happy.now harder part of deal is to explain to own citizens why they will need to pay more for gas and oil from other suppliers.

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......... and other fairy stories. No-one should believe a single word coming from any Russian mouth.

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"Russia continues to use natural gas as a political and economic weapon," said White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre, adding that the Biden administration continues to work to reduce Europe's dependence on Russian fossil fuels. "Russia’s energy coercion has put pressure on energy markets, raised prices for consumers and threatened global energy security.”

No, your sanctions did that.

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Its no coincidence that all hell broke loose in Europe shortly after Merkel stepped down.

The new German pm is a complete US stooge, he brought Europe into a disastrous trap

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They are right, it’s not under their but Putin’s control. lol

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Its no coincidence that all hell broke loose in Europe shortly after Merkel stepped down.

The new German pm is a complete US stooge, he brought Europe into a disastrous trap

But it is Merkel that caused all hell to brake loose when she invited millions of refuges to Germany and then forced EU countries to take refuges. In turn creating perfect environment for the right wing fascists to explore!!!

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How did Europe think it was okay to become dependent on Russia?

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Invest in unreliable entities like Putin regime and feel pain later.

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Canada sent the turbine for the pipeline to Germany by plane on July 17 after repair work had been completed, Kommersant newspaper reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the situation.

And right after that Zelensky made a big deal about it saying Canada and Germany were making a big mistake.

Then said that Ukraine offered Germany alternatives to using Nord Stream 1.

So CBC checked that out Ukraine's "alternative" was to sell Germany gas via the Sudzha pipeline.

So wait Ukraine says returning the Turbine is a mistake and instead of buying gas directly from Russia, Germany can buy RUSSIAN had from Ukraine!

So think about that, Russia hasn't cut off Ukraine yet, and Ukraine is trying to make a profit on breaking Sanctions selling Russian gas.

And now we see why Russian and Ukrainian are number 1 and number 2 most corrupt countries in Europe.

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Nadrew

Today 06:36 pm JST

How did Europe think it was okay to become dependent on Russia?

The same way they, us, etc... Became dependent on Said oil, etc...

Seriously look, if Saudi, Kuwait, etc...were really "friends" or allied as we so often hear, they would ramp up oil production and end the high prices, Europe could use alternative petroleum based fuels to replace gas in many cases and problem not solved but it would be less of an impact if the gas gets cut off

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Gasprom is lying and just obeying orders from Putin.

Force majeure in a contract s only used when there is a fire, plant problems, or pipeline problems. The companies with contracts can sue for damages and seizure of their property.

The gas can not be replaced by oil. Gas turbines don't run on oil. Cooking and heating appliances. Finding alternative oil supplies is less of a problem than finding a way to ship gas to Europe. There is American gas but not enough ships.

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The EU president is requesting all EU countries reduce gas consumption by 15%.

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Uniper are quite right to reject it, politically motivated deliberate reduction of supply is not force majeure. The more so as there is existing under used capacity elsewhere in the pipeline network that is more than enough to compensate.

The Canadian and German governments should not have blatantly breached sanctions or given in to russias blackmail, they have shown them selves to be weak and vacillating, no surprise with the German government, they unlike their electorate have been pathetic all the way through. Even more damning of their folly is the racing certainty that russia will still not supply the contracted volume of gas and just laugh at them. Paying criminals and blackmailers never ends well.

Merkel’s failure to recognise the reality of what russia was reverting to under poo tin and her insistence in making Europe and especially Germany dependant on energy supplies from an unreliable authoritarian country was tantamount to treason out at the very least purblind stupidity of monumental proportions.

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Gasprom is lying and just obeying orders from Putin.

> Force majeure in a contract s only used when there is a fire, plant problems, or pipeline problems.

No it includes all the following

"Force majeure (lit. superior force, with the sense of overwhelming force, from French[1][2]) is a common clause in contracts which essentially frees both parties from liability or obligation when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, epidemic or sudden legal changes prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their obligations under the contract.

The companies with contracts can sue for damages and seizure of their property.

> The gas can not be replaced by oil. Gas turbines don't run on oil. Cooking and heating appliances. Finding alternative oil supplies is less of a problem than finding a way to ship gas to Europe. There is American gas but not enough ships.

The turbine is not a power generating Turbine!

It is a gas pumping turbine used to push the gas through the pipeline.

Power generators can be converted often fairly simply from gas to oil.

Often the design of the power plant is the same only th fuel source vary.

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You know, Russia and Germany should have worked together and built a new pipeline. They could have even called it Nord Stream II. If they started to work on this new pipeline years ago, it would be ready to go right now.

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Antiquesaving

The legal opinion of force majeure from Gazprom is that it's fake.

The turbine is not a power generating Turbine!

I didn't mention the gasline turbine. I was referring to power generation. Gas turbine generators can not be converted to run on oil.

"Can gas turbine run fuel oil?

While gas turbines are often advertised as having fuel flexibility, about 90 percent of gas turbines worldwide operate on natural gas or liquefied natural gas (LNG) because of its purity and ease of combustion. Only about 400 GE gas turbines globally operate on crude, naphtha or heavy fuel oils."

https://www.wartsila.com/energy/learn-more/technical-comparisons/combustion-engine-vs-gas-turbine-fuel-flexibility

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Companies usually declare force majeure when an unforeseen event like a fire or natural disaster prevents them from complying with contracts. Triggering the legal cause retroactively is “unusual to say the least,” said Trevor Sikorski, head of natural gas, coal and carbon at Energy Aspects Ltd. said, adding that he expected European buyers to dispute the notice and seek compensation.

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I find it interesting that everyone especially the Rah Rah Rah Ukraine crowd totally ignored the fact that Ukraine's solution was to not return the turbine and Buy RUSSIAN gas from Ukraine.

I mean seriously not one of you find it strange that Ukraine says it can sell Germany Russian gas via it's pipeline from Russia and that Ukraine doesn't think Gazprom will do the same to Ukraine.

Something doesn't add up.

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There is American gas but not enough ships

The bottleneck isn't the number of ships but terminal capacity in the US. The existing LNG loading terminals are all operating at capacity and their planned output is already contracted for. A US firm is in the process of installing jack up gas liquification and loading facilities in the Gulf of Mexico offshore in the gas fields themselves. The first one ought to be running in about a year. It is a much quicker way to add LNG capacity than building on shore facilities.

Because of Covid-19 lockdowns, China's energy usage has been reduced and several dozen LNG loads from the US originally destined for China were diverted to Europe.

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Natural gas from Azerbaijan will be available in Europe very soon as most of the pipeline infrastructure is in place. A US company is in the process of building another pipeline across a narrow stretch of the Caspian Sea to bring Turkmenistan gas to Baku Azerebaijan and add that to the Azeri gas shipped to Europe.

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