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Desert Tortoise
@Strangerland, I have always had a great affection for the old Fiat 124 Sedan, especially the models with the twin cam engines, but they had all rusted away before I could ever buy one, lol. A Navy buddy had its successor the Fiat 131 and it rusted so bad it actually broke in half O_O A couple of times over the years since I thought, "oh look, I could buy a brand new 124" in the form of a VAZ 2104 or 2105. They were selling them in Canada, but always took a deep breath and said, "nah". I had completely forgotten about them until I saw an image of a really clean red one in the Ukraine maybe a week after the Russians invaded. Uh-oh! I even found several spotless examples available for sale in the US. Sigh. But I am not going there. Now my excuse is we already have too many cars in the family. Maybe I'll get lucky and find a clean 124 sedan with no rust. It's so dry where I live nothing rusts.
Strangerland
That's being nice. My friend bought a Lada, worst car ever. Broke down within six months, even though it was new off the lot. Spent as much time in the shop as being driven. She sold it at a huge loss a year after buying it.
I hadn't thought of that in years actually. But if Russia builds their military equipment the same as they build their cars, it's no surprise that the tiny Ukrainian military is being Russia.
Desert Tortoise
Having the factory is nice but without critical components from producers outside of Russia the Russians won't be able to build new cars.
Desert Tortoise
Have you ever seen a real live Russian car? I have. It was a Lada. Kludge. New car on the dealer lot and the seat upholstery was wrinkled and poor fitting. In the winter in a quiet garage you can just about hear the car rusting away.
ClippetyClop
If someone is buying it then it isn't being given away. The clue was in the headline.
What are they going to build them from, cabbages?
So they aren't 'giving it away'.
You aren't sure about a lot of things it appears.
Mr Kipling
Clippity....
There is one "buyer" in a fire sale.... Renault are giving it away and walking away from it's investment. Russia gets a nice new factory making new cars with an old name. All mostly paid for by Renault...
I'm not sure how this will save Ukraine...
piskian
@Eastman Renault is dead brand anyway.
Sales in Japan are dead low now.
I've seen more and more even down here in the Ryukyu Islands, especially Kangoos.Very popular,and must be reasonably priced with good dealer support.
My son's new bike is even a Renault.
piskian
My Grandfather had a Moskevitch.
You had to tap the speedometer like a barometer.I asked,"How fast are we going?";"Between 50 and 120!".
The windscreen wipers flew off at any opportunity.
He reversed right through our garage, didn't notice.T72 grade steel.
ClippetyClop
The big deal is that they aren't able to produce their own cars as well as any other country. Russian manufacturing isn't exactly synonymous with 'quality'.
Putin will be pleased though. Rubbish Soviet era cars will fit in nicely with the empty supermarket shelves, the increasing impoverishment of his citizens and an endless war. Maybe this was his dream all along.
Sven Asai
In their news it has been said that now in those Renault plants the old USSR car brand ‘Moskvich’ ( means Moskovian, inhabitant of Moscow) is getting a revival. Maybe the ones who have lived behind the Iron curtain still remember those now vintage cars. Maybe I don’t reveal a secret when saying that at those times they had quite a bad reputation and quality, but still better than that of car brand Zaporoshez. Yes, you guessed it right, That’s the car brand formerly produced near that now infamous war area , north of Mariupol, in the Ukrainian city Zaporozhya , in the news also with that biggest Ukrainian NPP nearby.
ClippetyClop
*"Renault's other Russia operations, primarily a factory in Moscow, will be sold to the Moscow city government."*
'I didn't fancy her anyway', said the man who got blown out by the pretty girl
Mr Kipling
Lucky Russia... gets a free factory. I hope they thank Renault.
Eastman
Renault is dead brand anyway.
Sales in Japan are dead low now and its not related to Russia whatsoever-simply others have better cars,better quality and more reliable better priced and more attractive products.
Renault will leave Russia?No big deal.
Others will take over vacated market and production position.
Desert Tortoise
Don't forget to re-format all the production computers on the way out the door ..........