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Honda expanding airbag recall; could help Takata

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I stopped reading and understood once it said Honda was a stock owner of Takada. THAT is why they are going to help out a company that cannot -- and WILL not -- help itself. No doubt the rich son/doofus who inherited the company is still in hiding but proclaiming that there is no problem, and there are those on here who insist it's all the fault of the US or Mexico (because of the war in Iraq of all things!), but we can't let them fail, no sir! Who cares that Honda is of the same ilk when it comes to covering up accidents and incidents, right?

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I stopped reading when it mentioned it was mostly in the US. My Honda was built in Japan and was shipped to the UK before the UK plant started building them here. It's also ten years old so the probability of being affected is very slight at worst.

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Nippon, nepotism, and a complete none understanding of regulations or product control.

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One wonders how on earth such an important passenger safety gadget got approved in the first place without apparent thorough examination! Hopefully this serves as an eye-opener to all auto-makers!

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Here's a wild, out-of-the-box, "conspiracy theory" thought... What if this is a major collusion by all the Japanese automakers to claim huge write-downs/losses on their repatriated "Kuroda-beggared" FOREX earnings to nix any claims of "recovery" and at the same time, avoid taxes here in Japan?

Crazy, hair-brained, illogical, pie-in-the-sky doofus thinking, huh?

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smithinjapan

I stopped reading and understood once it said Honda was a stock owner of Takada. THAT is why they are going to help out a company that cannot -- and WILL not -- help itself. No doubt the rich son/doofus who inherited the company is still in hiding but proclaiming that there is no problem, and there are those on here who insist it's all the fault of the US or Mexico (because of the war in Iraq of all things!), but we can't let them fail, no sir! Who cares that Honda is of the same ilk when it comes to covering up accidents and incidents, right?

W R O N G this has nothing to do with Iraq and everything to do with the US management.

The bulk of the recalls are in the United States as defective airbags were mostly made in Mexico.

The US Arm expanded hastily into mexico for production, note the honda cars made in Japan do not seem to share this problem smith.

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W R O N G this has nothing to do with Iraq and everything to do with the US management.

The bulk of the recalls are in the United States as defective airbags were mostly made in Mexico.

The US Arm expanded hastily into mexico for production, note the honda cars made in Japan do not seem to share this problem smith

StormR -- WRONG. What sheer and utter nonsense, and if you knew one thing about how multi-nationals actually worked, especially Japanese ones, you would not make such foolish comments. You are making it sound like the Japanese management is blameless -- "everything to do with the U.S. management". and "the U.S. arm expanded hastily into Mexico for production". The fact is that NO decision/investment of this kind would have been made without board approval from the parent company in Japan. In fact, given that Takata has dozens of plants worldwide, the decision to put a plant in Mexico was very likely led by Japan, as those kinds of decisions are rarely left up to individual country management teams, which are mainly just sales and marketing focused.

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jerseyboy it was even written on this website about the US management so before criticising where you only think you are right check things first.

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I think Hondas is doing wht Toyota did. Toyota already announced recall quite a while ago.

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jerseyboy it was even written on this website about the US management so before criticising where you only think you are right check things first

StormR -- here is what is on the Internet about this:

Shigehisa Takada, the grandson of the founder, now chairman and chief executive, has said the company made a mistake by allowing too much autonomy to its local managers in North America during a period of rapid growth. Takata acquired at least six companies in the United States and Germany between 1989 and 2012.

“Back then, the U.S. markets were expanding very rapidly, and we could not see everything that was happening there,” according to a recording of Takada's speech to a closed shareholders meeting in June. It was his most recent public appearance.

So, you base your whole theory on a remark Takata made at a closed-door speech to Japanese shareholders? I guess there is no chance this was convenient finger-pointing, right? But, even so, the Takata family owns 57% of the company, if the company was growing too fast to keep tabs on things in the manner that they should, that is ultimately a failure of the Japanese management team.

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Well, it's not as good as a Government bailout (right GM? nudge, wink...), but Takata sure will be lucky for having big brother Honda if they make it out of this mess. On the other hand, Honda's "proclaimation" only allows Takata executives to bury their heads in the sands a little deeper IMHO.

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The US Arm expanded hastily into mexico for production, note the honda cars made in Japan do not seem to share this problem smith.

And yet... a pregnant Malaysian woman was killed in her home country by one of these deadly airbags when a 2.5 cm fragment of metal was propelled into the side of her neck, causing her to bleed to death on the way to the hospital and her unborn child to die two days later. Saying "I'm safe because the problem is localized in another country" shows ignorance about how the international parts market works.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/15/autos-takata-malaysia-fatality-idUSL3N0T508X20141115

@Thunderbird2,

It's also ten years old so the probability of being affected is very slight at worst.

The car the Malaysian woman was in was 11 years old.

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Fadamor: The car the Malaysian woman was in was 11 years old.

Some airbags expire and I recall having a Japanese make the service manual of which called for airbag replacement at 10 years.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/do-car-airbags-expire.html

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