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garymalmgren
I get 52 kilo/litre from my Cub. 62 when I tried hard.
I reckon that is a pretty good "emission standard"
NCIS Reruns
I read somewhere that back in the early 1960s American engineers bought a Super Cub so they could disassemble it and see what made it tick. They were most amazed by the workings of its internal combustion engine, saying, "It was built like a watch and didn't leak a drop of oil."
Speed
I think the emission standards for these Cubs are good enough. I wish they'd keep these. But they used to be a lot cheaper too so many people bought them. I heard they might raise the allowable CC for regular driver's license holders from 50cc bikes to 100cc or so, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.
JeffLee
Noooo!!! The government should be encouraging small displacement vehicles, which are a lot more fuel efficient than the larger models, which Honda will continue manufacturing. Makes no sense to me. Make the gas guzzlers electric.
kohakuebisu
This is just them reacting to the change in the engine limit on the scooter driving license, a change that Honda themselves asked for. Its going up from 50 to 125cc next year. 50cc bikes are mostly galapagos items sold in Japan only. This doesn't matter when its 1985 and you're selling 1.5 million a year, many housewives used to ride scooters, but it does in 2024 when its well under 100,000.
It sounds like the new scooter rule will be 125cc with a power limit of 4.4kW. This may mean Honda and Yamaha selling Asian market bikes with a (n easily crippled) limiter built into the igniter like the good old days. 50cc bikes themselves can be very fast, but they are all two strokes, new ones are banned for emissions due to their appetite for engine oil, or mad Hondas that rev at 12000-15000 plus rpm. The officially 30km/h speed limit and rules about two step right turns are likely to remain, so riding a scooter license bike in Japan in the official way will remain an unsatisfactory experience. On many roads, it will be dangerous to go at 30kmh and not the same speed as cars.
owzer
I hope they going to replace it with the Super Duper Cub!
seriously tho, as Gary pointed out, they’re not going to get much more fuel efficient than what they already have.
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@kohakuebisu
Good info. Oops, I used to always go way over 30 km on country roads.
wallace
The world's no1 selling motor bike.
bogva
I guess it's not about efficiency but about emissions. Still pity the are doing this as electric scooters are not fun.
My bike guy told me production is already halted and if I want to replace my scooter better hurry as only few good second hand options are available...
As a side note - I don't know about Honda but Yamaha Jogs are all 4-cycle and they don't use up oil.
John-San
The standard emission control costs on the 50cc engine is why production has stop. These engine are also use to in farm machinery. Due to emission these engine can not be used any more from 2025. It is part of getting zero carbon by 2050.
Eat the left
On my car driver's license, I'll be able to ride 125cc bikes from next year?!
OssanAmerica
So these 50cc bikes like the Honda Cub can be ridden with just a regular automobile license?
Will the new 125cc bikes (under 4.4kW) coming out to replace them in April 2025 also be the same?
3RENSHO
"50cc bikes themselves can be very fast, but they are all two strokes..."
Not all; the 50cc Honda Super Cub pictured in this article has a 4-cycle engine.
Eat the left
Yes. I have done for years.
Zaphod
How does that make sense? These incredibly useful and sturdy things have an extremely low consumption. And if the 50cc engine is problematic, why not the 110cc one? Does someone know?
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kohakuebis
Where did you get that from, they have all been four-stroke for years.