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JAL to suspend Paris-Narita flights after attacks

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Kind of hard to blame the people not booking flights, but it is rather easy to point a finger at the media for constant rehashing of the incidents over and over and over and creating an image that no where (but Japan) is safe.

Best weapon to fight fear about terrorism? Turn off the TV.

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Good news for All Nippon and Air France (?)

8 ( +10 / -2 )

What is good about this? It must be because there is no demand because Japanese tourists are too reactionary and jumpy. Feel sorry for Paris on this; they did nothing wrong.

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So stupid. Japan's airport and immigration security is second to none. And from France?!

If they are gonna freak about slim chances of terrorism, better suspend flights to Seoul....

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What is good about this? It must be because there is no demand because Japanese tourists are too reactionary and jumpy.

Or alternatively, one could argue that Japanese are entirely rational, while liberals, on the other hand, keep their heads buried in the sand. I'm reminded of the movie Naked Gun where Frank Drebin stands in front of an exploding fireworks factory appealing to the crowd to disperse because there was nothing to see.

The reality is that Paris is still likely to be suffering disruption of some sort due to the attacks. Postponing one's holiday to a later date is eminently sensible.

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Not just Japanese tourists. My friends from Canada re-booked their Bangkok flight after the Islamist bombing there, and instead they are coming to Japan, which is seen as much safer (for obvious reasons).

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Economically it makes sense if demand is 60% down. JAL is a business. They don't even operate direct flights to Spain. But it's very sad that the Japanese are so naive. It's giving into terror and exactly what the terrorists want. Will they stop visiting America given the fact that terror is so common there, and 95% non Islamic related?

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Not just the concern of tourists but also the tour companies, which recommend different travel plans as they don't want to deal with the trouble of any social disruption.

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Perhaps they could have reduced the price of flights. JAL is always one of the more expensive options going anywhere.

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Japan's airport and immigration security is second to none.

You'Remember to kidding right? Have been through Narita many times and security is below par of the rest of the world - few baggage checks, rare questioning, few dog searches - it is fast I grant you that.

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Yeah, that's about what I'd expect Japan to do, close themselves off from the outside world and live in a cave.

Business is falling off 60% because the media has the already normally skittish Japanese even more afraid. J-Media is always filled with crime video from overseas.

France will bounce back. The country and people must persevere and they need tourism dollars to help that.

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Not sure why any of you downrated my post.

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So stupid and so selfish from this company which once was running on our tax money. I suggest JAL to suspend their flights to all countries to avoid risk of terror attack. I am quite the govt is behind that decision. Wish AF does the same and does suspend their flight to Tokyo so the country will look more to what it is slowly turning into anyway...an island prison.

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Oh, that explains it.

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Not sure why any of you downrated my post. if you dont know then you probably never will. HINT terrorist acts in Japan are most likely to be committed by Japanese nationals as history has shown us

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I suggest JAL to suspend their flights to all countries to avoid risk of terror attack.

Hmmm, I have read the article three times now and still can't find where it says JAL is suspending the flights "to avoid risk of terror attacks". Seems more like they are reducing the number of flights in response to a drop in demand, which is what you'd expect any competently run airline in any country to do. But hey, there's no whining, complaining or running off on irrelevant straw man tangents fun to be had if you stick to the facts I guess.

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HINT terrorist acts in Japan are most likely to be committed by Japanese nationals as history has shown us

Well, yeah., That was my point. I was being ironic. "If they are gonna freak out.."

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JAL showing their Solidarity "a la japonaise"

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I have read the article three times now and still can't find where it says JAL is suspending the flights "to avoid risk of terror attacks". Seems more like they are reducing the number of flights in response to a drop in demand

It doesn't just seem that way, it actually directly states that in the article:

Japan Airlines said Tuesday it would suspend flights between Paris and Tokyo’s Narita airport from next month after demand fell about 60% following deadly attacks in the French city.

4 ( +8 / -4 )

So reactive

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Paranoia strikes again. This is the larger victory of the terrorists.

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Smith

You got that right. But, I must say, it is a temporary victory. Civilization will prevail!

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Yes , make perfect sense to respond to 60% drop in traffic by a full 100% suspension, this sounds more like an embargo than anything else, they could have reduced their flight by 50%, once every 2 days, some people wants to move and have a life and plane transportation are necessary for that, some prefer to stay in their bunkers.

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make perfect sense to respond to 60% drop in traffic by a full 100% suspension, this sounds more like an embargo than anything else, they could have reduced their flight by 50%, once every 2 days,

As I understand it, that's not a possibility. They have the spot booked at the airport, and they either use it or don't. If they aren't fully using it, the airport makes them drop it.

That said, I'm not so well versed in these matters, so I may be misunderstanding it.

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“The company will decide whether to resume the Paris-Narita flights in March after observing the situation next year,”

Clearly, they mean to see if any attack will be happening in France or not in the meantime, because obviously, JAP cannot observe if their "business" demand is currently raising since JAL will not provide any flight from Narita during that pseudo probing period.

Moderator: The word JAP is not acceptable. Please repost.

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Postponing one's holiday to a later date is eminently sensible

Not to the many establishments and workers who depend on tourism for their livelihoods.

Better for businesses to fail, and be replaced by soulless chains?

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Paranoia strikes again. This is the larger victory of the terrorists.

Or simply an attempt of a company known for accumulating losses to explain their bad quarterly result. We'll see because if really a trend then ANA has to do the same, they won't be able to sustain 60% drop and continue to provide more than 1 flight flying empty....

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Hmmm, I have read the article three times now and still can't find where it says JAL is suspending the flights "to avoid risk of terror attacks". Seems more like they are reducing the number of flights in response to a drop in demand, which is what you'd expect any competently run airline in any country to do. But hey, there's no whining, complaining or running off on irrelevant straw man tangents fun to be had if you stick to the facts I guess.

Funny isn't it? People on here were blasting JAL when they declared bankruptcy due to bad business practice. Then, when they decide to suspend flights due to a 60% drop, they blast JAL and the Japanese. No need to stick to facts as you correctly point out.

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Japan Airlines says demand for flights between Paris and Narita, just outside Tokyo, has slumped by more than half since the November 13 attacks on the French capital

I wonder how much sales slumped, if at all, after the 1st Terror attack in Paris?

Looks like the 2nd attack really sealed that flight route. Will be so, for quite some time. Heck, there may even be a "3rd" terror attack either in Europe or US. . . . "You just don't know."

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It's a case of simple economics isn't it? If there isn't the demand for flights then it makes no sense for them to send empty planes out. I'm sure Air France are still running flights.

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Are people commenting here going insane?

1- JAL continued to operate until now, meaning a whole month after the attacks. So when it comes to showing solidarity and not getting scared beyond reason, they have showed plenty of that already.

2- The JAL Narita-Paris route suffered a 60% demand drop, and the JAL Haneda-Paris a 40% demand drop as stated in the article. Let's call the demand for each route "D" (I assume it is basically the same for Narita and for Haneda, as they both were operated every day). Previously, the total demand was D (Narita) + D (Haneda) = 2D. Right now, the demand is 0.4 x D + 0.6 x D = D. So only one D, and only one route to operate! Makes perfect sense, this is business 101. How good is it for anybody to have double the capacity compared to the demand? Bad for business, bad for the environment.

3- It is only until March. Just let things rest for a while, cheaper flights and low season might help reboot the whole thing, and it will get back to normal in no time.

Enough with the guilt trip already.

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To all who say Japanese are over reacting... may be so... but again if I am not wrong other countries are doing it too..

and paraphrasing something here

Remember, remember, March eleventh 2011 and the aftermath... yeah, it doesn´t rhyme but, you remember right?

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Some of my family are in Paris now. Arrived a few days ago. Having a ball

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It's not the people in poking the flights it's the Japan travel agencies with their package deals. They are actually telling their customers to go to differnt destinations and canceling their packages to Paris. It's ironic because right after an attack like that it's probably the safest one to go to Paris not to mention the cheap ticket prices.

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Very typical knee-jerk reaction by Japanese. And other nationalities as individuals. Their choice but for the national carrier to basically slap France in the face is ridiculous. The thugs from ISIS will mark it as another victory. But, as Paris shows, terrorists will strike anywhere at any time. If Paris needs support it is now - probably fewer crowds, more hotels, appreciative locals than ever before. GO!

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@Rik314 So, what you say is that JAL keeps the flying between Tokyo and Paris with empty planes?? That seems very logic... yeah

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If they're not making money off these flights, it's better to suspend them rather than run money-losing jets back and forth. Speculate all you want about people with their heads in the sand and how much terrorism here in Japan is homegrown, but all it is-- is a company doing business.

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Not just Japanese tourists. My friends from Canada re-booked their Bangkok flight after the Islamist bombing there, and instead they are coming to Japan, which is seen as much safer (for obvious reasons).

Where they can relax because they may experience an earthquake of severe magnitude or active volcano or tsunami or nuclear meltdown or get hit by a texting cyclist. Any number of things can get you anywhere. Nothing is obvious.

Not to take anything away from the very real horror of terrorist tactics and acts, people need to know the facts. Otherwise you waste a life lived in unneccesary fear. Statistically, threats to our lives from many things which we live with quite comfortably on a daily basis are more likely to do us in than any act of terror.

Tuck into another slice of pizza or have one more drink too many while you Google the leading causes of death worldwide. You'll see that heart disease, stroke, diabetes (all related to obesity and a sedentary lifestyle), and traffic fatalities have numbers from 1 to 7 million. Deaths by terrorism worldwide between 2006 and 2015 account for 11 thousand to 33 thousand in any given year..

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i can't believe so many people on this site think that the japanese are the only people cancelling trips to france. therefore, they are naive, gullible and have a knee-jerk reaction to terrorism. wtf? http://www.wsj.com/articles/frances-economy-slows-after-paris-attacks-as-tourists-shoppers-stay-home-1448315112

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An implication of the Terrorist act..... see that impacts our life, so its not like, our lives are not affected.

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@nakanoguy01 Here on JT emotion based knee-jerk Japan hate is of No.1 priority. Objectivity is optional.

JT J-Haters go on about how J-Media is causing knee-jerk reaction in "Lemmings-like" Japanese ppl, but they set aside the fact that anti-Japan internet media like JT is very much doing the same, causing knee-jerk reactions in simple minded Hateimus Japonicii who consolidate their confirmation biases with regards to how Japan and its people are always mistaken in whatever they think/do.

I agree with Triumph, with business its always supply and demand and this is fact across the board and not just in Japan. You can't expect JAL, a corporation that just turned its business around after a bailout, to stand firm in the face of eminent losses just to show solidarity with France.

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JAL is just doing what makes sense, given the current market demand, or lack thereof, for flights between Paris and Japan. When demand picks back up, so will the flights.

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i can't believe so many people on this site think that the japanese are the only people

Yes, Japan might really be the only one top nation country where a major national airline is totally suspending their flight to France from their main major airport following the November attack but like I wrote, let's see ANA is doing the same if that is a real trend.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Don't they share flights anyway these days?

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