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Japan tipped to become largest market for sparkling wines in Asia-Pacific over next 5 years

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There are definitely more Proseccos than before, you can actually get Aperol Spritzs at most places in Roppongi now!

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by sparkling in meant lambrusco, spumante etc.

Nostalgia moment. Those names conjure up images of presents for a girlfriend's mother.

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Fizzbit and stranger, I obviously didn't have champagne in mind when I mentioned 'sparkling wines'. In my country of birth no one would ever consider champagne to be a sparkling wine as such, the same way 'foie gras' is rarely called 'pate'.

I get what you mean stranger and perhaps I should have clarified what I mean considering ppl on forums come from different countries where words/labels have different meanings. So yes am with fizzbit on that, by sparkling in meant lambrusco, spumante etc.

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Some people here certainly have a lot of time to hone their pedantic skill.....

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Then you still fail to understand the difference goldorak was trying to make.

Goldorak didn't make a comparison/difference. What goldorak said was:

Imo sparkling wines aren't wine per se. They are to wine what sushi rolls we have in the west are to sushi: a cheap, lower version.

It was a blanket statement that encompasses champagne.

you use Dom and Moet as examples when you well know he/she's talking about tank method cheap sparkling wine you get at a supermarket.

No, I don't well know what (s)he is talking about. All I have is what (s)he posted. If (s)he meant something else, then (s)he should have posted what (s)he meant. I'm not going to take responsibility for a misunderstanding when the person didn't post what they meant - that's on them.

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Why would I do that when Dom Perignon comes from Champagne, and therefore is called champagne?

Then you still fail to understand the difference goldorak was trying to make. thats why you're so confusing, you use Dom and Moet as examples when you well know he/she's talking about tank method cheap sparkling wine you get at a supermarket. You're sarcasm needs a lot of work.

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Well, I'm not sure where you're from, so I guess you get the benefit of the doubt

Where I'm from doesn't matter in regards to what I said - my place of origin won't change the fact that champagne is sparkling wine. A simple google of 'difference between champagne and sparkling wine' will return many, many results that point this out.

I understand exactly what goldorak was talking about, the popular sparkling wines they sell for less than 10 bucks with a single fermentation process only

And the more expensive ones sell for 100's of dollars. That's why I made my sarcastic comment - he made a blanket statement that was pretty ridiculous when you consider quality sparkling wines like Dom. They are most definitely not 'a cheap lower version' of wine.

I dare you to go to France and order a bottle saying "I'll have the 2010 Dom Perignon Sparkling wine"

Why would I do that when Dom Perignon comes from Champagne, and therefore is called champagne?

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Champagne is sparkling wine.

Well, I'm not sure where you're from, so I guess you get the benefit of the doubt, but I understand exactly what goldorak was talking about, the popular sparkling wines they sell for less than 10 bucks with a single fermentation process only. And you're right champagne is sparkling wine. I dare you to go to France and order a bottle saying "I'll have the 2010 Dom Perignon Sparkling wine" Lol.

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And here I was thinking that Japan was going to be the largest market for OAP homes, who would have thought it?

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Stranger, sparkling wine is not champagne.

Champagne is sparkling wine.

It can only be called champagne when it's from the Champagne region of France. Otherwise it's called sparkling wine.

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Stranger, sparkling wine is not champagne.

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imo sparkling wines aren't wine per se. They are to wine what sushi rolls we have in the west are to sushi: a cheap, lower version.

I'll remember that next time I'm drinking Dom Perignon or Moet.

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Imo sparkling wines aren't wine per se. They are to wine what sushi rolls we have in the west are to sushi: a cheap, lower version.

Rather drink a decent rose than a sparkling.

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"Please please tell the Japanese there is more to white wine than chardonnay."

Go ahead. And good luck with that. I think your comment needs a >sniff< sound in there somewhere. Either right at the end, or with an >eye roll< between the pleases. I also like the use of "the Japanese." Classy.

I remember when Europeans tried to tell Japanese people what wine they SHOULD be drinking. And then everyone tried to get into the act. But it did not really take. From about a decade ago, any old restaurant with a wine cellar went belly up waiting for someone to order a 1000 dollar bottle of whatever. Sommelier license from France? Too bad. But if they instead give people what they want, well, they succeed, don't they? Don't expect Japanese people to pay for everyone else's idea of culture. They are doing their own thing.

Japanese people like what they like. The world needs to get used to that. Vive la difference.

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Please please tell the Japanese there is more to white wine than chardonnay.

The Japanese taste level for wines is equivalent to a non-Japanese thinking all sushi is only tuna.

In Japan the wine quality bar has been set very low and over the last 25 years doesn't seem to be going any higher. With Abenomics and the financial pinch on the consumer, it actually seems to be going lower.

There's wines you drink, there's wines you cook with, there's wines you wash in and finally there's wines you sell to the Japanese who put them out at their local Seiyu at Y500 a pop.

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French wine is mostly overrated. While some supposedly wine experts sing its praises, they end up just as likely picking 'new world' wines in blind tests.

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