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Luxury hotel chain Dorchester to open in Japan's highest building in 2028

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390 metres high in an earthquake zone .... I hope that the base is solid.

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Did not know that chain at all. Not rich enough maybe

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This hotel will be literally on the "wrong side of the tracks." While not bad, it's definitely a step down from the Marunouchi side.

Why would you want to stay there instead of the Andaz if you you are looking for the ultimate luxury? I guess a lot of people won't know and just go by the name, but they will soon find out that the walk to Marunouchi is not a nice one, and neither is to Ginza with cheap duty-free shops catering to Chinese tourists one after the other.

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that the walk to Marunouchi is not a nice one, and neither is to Ginza with cheap duty-free shops catering to Chinese tourists one after the other.

People staying in this chain don’t walk

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Why would you want to stay there instead of the Andaz if you you are looking for the ultimate luxury? I guess a lot of people won't know and just go by the name, but they will soon find out that the walk to Marunouchi is not a nice one, and neither is to Ginza with cheap duty-free shops catering to Chinese tourists one after the other.

@Zoroto. You obviously do not know much about high end clientele.

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Before replying I would like to add that I work in the luxury

Because the Dorchester is several classes better than the Andaz?

That literally not true and it completely invalidates the claim that you know about the luxury travel industry.

I stayed at both "chains", and while both have its pluses and minuses, overall there is very little difference in the level of luxury, with Andaz winning out IMVHO (e.g. invisible room service). Of course, the feel is quite a bit different, Andaz geared towards more Asian tastes while Dorchester is geared towards more Western tastes, so ultimately it's up to the individual.

But to say Dorchester is several classes better than Andaz is completely false.

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What makes you think the people who can afford to stay in the Dorchester have to walk anywhere if they don't want to?

The ultra rich don't shop with the rest of us.

Not only the ultra rich stay at these places. I am far from ultra rich and did stay at these places before for special trips. And I like to do "local" things, so that means walking around and enjoying the town -- and prefer not to have to walk under the somewhat seedy underpasses of Tokyo Station.

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This hotel will be literally on the "wrong side of the tracks." While not bad, it's definitely a step down from the Marunouchi side.

I guess you say good bye to your real estate job, if you have one. The whole area is roughly the same in terms of price per square foot and with the Tallest building and other projects coming on steam it is the right side of the tracks. Dorchester knows what it is doing.

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I don't care. Richer people can spend their money on expensive Japanese hotels if they wish to. I've done that, and, in all honesty, don't see much benefit other than that the lower levels treat you more nicely - the doormen are more helpful... which sort of says it all to me. Hoteliers have it all wrong. Pay your doormen more than your concierge, or waiters in your restaurants.... since the doormen, are the people who visitors last remember!

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"We can provide an experience like no other," Mitsubishi Estate President Junichi Yoshida said"

Sorry, but I really doubt it, unfortunately The location and the scenery just wont do it. being closer to nature is the ultimate luxury for many gusts since they mostly live in big cities sick and tiered of crowds.

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Just what Tokyo needs, more hotels.

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well @uaintseeme: Actually, it really does. Especially in the 4 and 5 sector of the market.

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@Wil: Nail on head.

That will the first 5 Star Luxe Hotel in the area. The Andaz is very nice as is the Grand Hyatt, but neither are a patch on the Four Seasons, or indeed their own Park Hyatt in Shinjuku.

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I used to work there in London back in the day. I meet the elite class and we had impeccable service. I hope it won’t be serviced with “foreign interns” on low wages.

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So weird to see people making huge bets about travel so far in the future, what if in 5 years another Chinese outbreak goes out of control and Covid-27 makes travel close up a couple of years again?

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So weird to see people making huge bets about travel so far in the future, what if in 5 years another Chinese outbreak goes out of control and Covid-27 makes travel close up a couple of years again?

What if an asteroid smashes into the earth? What if nuclear war breaks out? Can't stop progress based on hypothetical "What if..?" questions. The world will go on and we'll do our best. Nothing weird about that.

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Maybe there will be Chinese tourists by then or not?

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This hotel will be literally on the "wrong side of the tracks." While not bad, it's definitely a step down from the Marunouchi side.

So are you saying the Shang and the Four Seasons need to move as they are also on the wrong side of Tokyo eki?

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@William Round: So weird that you think companies should not be investing for the future and showing optimism. Hotel Groups/Airlines (well the good ones) only think about the future. The Pandemic was obviously a disaster for them, but the smart ones renovated Hotels during the down time, took the gamble of securing more land and/or property at lower prices and although operating prices have risen are now reaping the rewards of high occupancy. Five years is not 'far' in the future.

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Yaesu side is the wrong side of the tracks. Dorchester or not, the choppy land ownership on the east side of Tokyo station will take decades to consolidate and then you'll just have one bland Roppongi Hills after another. Isn't anyone getting sick of these yet? Hikarie, Hibiya Midtown, Toronomon Hills, Kyobashi Garden Square, "Torch Tower", THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

NEWSFLASH: Shiny developments are not what makes Tokyo an interesting place. The more this real estate bubble goes on, the worse Tokyo gets.

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They lost me when they mention pool? Like everybody known hotel pools are peetree dishes and are not to be used. Why a pool when Japan has a huge onsen culture. It show they have done little research.

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