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Major automakers may be using Chinese aluminum produced with Uyghur forced labor, rights group says

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Once anyone buy or rent those vehicle nobody can tell difference where aluminum come from, either from Uyghur or somewhere else.

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The report summary is located at: https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/02/01/asleep-wheel/car-companies-complicity-forced-labor-china. While the full report is at:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/01/china-carmakers-implicated-uyghur-forced-labor.

Perhaps a new rule. Requiring that manufacturers who use forced labor must disclose such to any potential consumer. Maybe require dealers to have on a continuous video loop on the floor-room a video over what these poor, miserable people have already been put through by The Party.

Then if people want cars with blood on metal, that will be a willing choice, and not sheer ignorance.

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Well for industry proven to cheat on safety testing, one should expect they'll do anything to save $. Clearly human life and rights matters not to these greedy SOBs!

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They shouldn't be doing any business with China anyway.

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Are they kidding? Everything, all resources, products, services, stems from forced labor finally. Otherwise we wouldn't have any civilization and economies.

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They should be banning it on national security grounds alone.

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Regulations, standards, values, behavior, etc. for any of it to matter it must be backed by action. Otherwise, just empty meaningless words. Consumers value integrity, not unethical greedy SOBs.

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TheRegulatorToday 11:44 am JST

Those concerned people should have a close look at the US prison system if they want to find forced labor - this would be much easier to find but for some reason, I don't know why, they just don't seem to do it.

They at least have their day in court and I would say 95% of the time working is voluntary.

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Oh and lets not forget all those cobalt mines in Congo with thousands of child labor which help us have our Iphones too.

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Since 2022, the United States has required importers of any goods produced in Xinjiang to prove they were not made with forced labor to avoid penalties

How

What proof is acceptable

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The article doesn't make clear if the aluminum alloys in question are being used for components on cars manufactured in China for the Chinese market, or if these materials are used by these manufacturers in their factories outside of China. Is a Toyota plant in Tennessee or a GM plant in Texas using Chinese aluminum?

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Flip your sneakers and your pet toys and see where are they are made in before we argue about aluminum and don’t forget the Soda and beer cans too!

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When you make purchases large or small, cars or crayons is the first thought on you mind, the profit margin, leveraged by some Human Rights Watch report on supply chain forced child labour political Chinese outback sweatshop.

Quote, labour transfer programs, where workers reportedly face ideological indoctrination.

Did you turn you backs and walk away.

Do you ask the cologne soak salesman what proportion of that vehicle manufacturing process entail some pubescent chained to it assembly line?

Maybe such a thought melted away when choosing the option packs.

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China is the world's biggest automobile market and producers. It is stupid to consider the lies telling US think tank about whatsoever their politically motivated claims. China is sure win in world's automobile industry !

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China is just successful in auto industry especially BYD beating " Telsa". That's why some hurted nationalistic rightist Americans feel uncomfortable. America used to be the greatest auto industry in the world during 1950s, 60s. China just hurtrd their childish dignity, maybe that's why that think tank must smearing lies to attack China for their own sake!

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By the way, there was no so called genocide of uyghurs in Xinjiang.

Apart from the 're-education' of a million of them in prison camps, the torture, the executions, the religious persecution, the forced labour, the shattering of families, the sexual violence, forced sterilization and abortion, denial of reproduction rights, mass surveilance and deliberate impoverishment of them.

Be proud of that. They are your fellow citizens until your entire empire implodes yet again.

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At some point the Chinese are going to realise that the West politicising trade, demanding pure supply chains and implementing sanctions is actually a better weapon for them than for the West.

Sanctions on Russian energy, wood etc have stoked inflation and created shortages in the West. Have Westerners cheerfully supported their governments' sanctions? No. They have blamed them for the consequences and switched to supporting opposition parties, some more dictatorial than Moscow or Beijing. Trump is doing well in the US, hardly anyone is going to vote Tory in the next election in the UK, and the French hate Macron so much, the National Front may get in there.

How long before the Chinese actively troll the West with cases like this, leaving them to starve their own supply chains, copying Brexit? Progressives started a cultural revolution in the US and are now losing it. Replaying that on the big stage with global trade will end just as badly.

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GBR48Today 03:30 am JST

They have blamed them for the consequences and switched to supporting opposition parties, some more dictatorial than Moscow or Beijing.

No one is more dictatorial than Moscow or Peking, unless you are talking North Korea.

How long before the Chinese actively troll the West with cases like this, leaving them to starve their own supply chains, copying Brexit? Progressives started a cultural revolution in the US and are now losing it. Replaying that on the big stage with global trade will end just as badly.

China has realized it doesn't control many supply chains and there is only so far you can get with cheap labor.

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elephant200Feb. 2 09:54 pm JST

China is just successful in auto industry especially BYD beating " Telsa". That's why some hurted nationalistic rightist Americans feel uncomfortable. America used to be the greatest auto industry in the world during 1950s, 60s. China just hurtrd their childish dignity, maybe that's why that think tank must smearing lies to attack China for their own sake!

China made a matchbox car requiring no engineering skill. Good on them I guess.

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Flip your sneakers and your pet toys and see where are they are made in before we argue about aluminum and don’t forget the Soda and beer cans too!

I do that before I buy and if the product says "Made in China" I put it down and find a comparable product made somewhere else.

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Do you ask the cologne soak salesman what proportion of that vehicle manufacturing process entail some pubescent chained to it assembly line?

As a matter of fact I do.

When you make purchases large or small, cars or crayons is the first thought on you mind, the profit margin, leveraged by some Human Rights Watch report on supply chain forced child labour political Chinese outback sweatshop.

Yes. I do not buy Chinese made products and there are certain brands in the US I refuse to patronize because I know they mistreat their employees. Amazon is one such firm. My wife gets angry with me but I will happily pay more to buy something direct from the manufacturer or from some other supplier than ever give one penny of my business to Amazon.

I used to work in the transportation industry and know first hand how these companies mistreat their people.

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