Nissan to make new electric cars, batteries in Britain

Make Britain great again!

The North Sea Oil and Gas business is in its twilight. There is always bicycles for BoJo and Co.

Nissan cars are all past their use by dates.

The steering wheel is on the wrong side for a UK market car.

WaddoToday 07:55 am JST

Obviously government subsidies keeping Nissan there. Europeans must be smiling.

£100m according to the Guardian, about 10% of the total and the current going rate, apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2021/jul/01/nissan-hasnt-put-uk-ahead-in-electric-race-its-just-got-it-off-the-starting-grid

What happened to Boris' trademarked hair? It's...rather normal!

Has Boris The Gruff's fluffed tuff finally lost its stuff?!

nissan trying desperately hard to repair its image.

not gonna work!

The UK government are paying Nissan to do this. If Brexit was any good, they wouldn't have to.

Governments should be investing in the EV infrastructure, without which, nobody will buy the cars. Instead they are bribing companies to make them on their turf after undermining their economies with idiot nationalist policies.

The free market isn't free if you are handing over taxpayer's money to buy jobs.

Nissan is now Japanese Leyland.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan’s chief operating officer, said the company made the decision to invest in Sunderland after Britain negotiated a “trade-friendly Brexit.”

That's a big change of tone.

And Honda's still leaving Swindon? Perhaps this Boris Bribe is designed to cushion the blow.

I love news like this which rubs salt into the still bitter wounds of the loser Remainers! Great to hear!

Its the tax payer.

It is a wise investment though

And Honda's still leaving Swindon?

The Swindon lot never did respect me.

Good news for the North East where I'm from.

Nissan may have been unaffected, but food exports down 20% and chaos over Northern Ireland suggest it has not been a "trade-friendly Brexit". Here is a lovely email I received this morning from a marketplace for second-hand records.

Interpreting complicated tax regulations is never an easy task. The changes to the EU and UK VAT laws have created a complex set of rules that we are working hard to interpret for the Discogs community....Please read on for a clarification of how we are handling intra-EU and intra-UK supply of goods VAT.

GBR 48 makes a great comment below. Lots of Youtube car channels have a video where they do a cross-country journey and have a stressful time due to non-compatible chargers, broken chargers, busy chargers, hard to find chargers, .... That's for middle class folks who have offroad parking and a charger at home. Park on the road and its a non-starter.

Governments should be investing in the EV infrastructure, without which, nobody will buy the cars.

I love news like this which rubs salt into the still bitter wounds of the loser Remainers! 

100m pound government subsidies is the only thing keeping UK manufacturing in Britain, UK economy is still expected to shrink in the next 10yrs all because of Brexit

The government reached a deal with Brussels in December and, freed from EU competition rules, is now able to offer financial incentives to attract investment.

Now seeing I really didn't care much about the EU, UK or Brexit.

Perhaps someone can answer this.

UK and EU reached a deal but somehow I cannot see the EU have the UK carte blanche in offering financial incentives to attract investment without some catch.

If not that would place EU countries at a disadvantage.

So will the cars/batteries face some form of higher import duty/taxes, quota limits, etc...?

The article makes it sound far to one sided benefit for the UK, and the way Nissan has been managed lately I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't properly looked at all the angles and pitfalls.

People here are hilarious!

I asked a question, I actually asked a question and asked if someone knew the answer or could explain the situation to me as I don't know about it.

And at this point 2 people gave a negative.

Seriously asking a question about something get a minus.

Are you people for real?

If you think the question is so silly, then why not answer it and explain why.

@antiquesavings.

The Tory Gov has pledged 500 million to help idustries. If the G is to be believed one 5th of it has gone to Nissan for the giga factory. The EU will try and frustrate all trade from the UK as a kind of punishment. Sausages, lawn movers and I expect cars of all shapes and sizes. The EU internally gets up to all sorts of shenanigans as Greece understands it was given a loan it could not pay back so it has to follow all the rules that the bigger countries want them to. Trade in the EU and UK is all about underhand nudges just the same as Japan.

Who profits - big companies.

Who looses - the people.

This bung will keep a couple of thousand people in work for a lifetime. It will help increase the intelectual abilities with battery tech in the UK and more importantly keep what we already know within the country and not brain drain it elsewhere. In my mind 100 million is tiny in this instance.

I would caveat that with what happened to RHP when the Japanese basically asset stripped it. Took all the intelectual property and then made all the workers redundant and shut down a whole community. That in this case is in 50 years time so not of immediate concern.

As for battery tech and more importantly the raw materials. Quite a lot of news will tell people that China has already got the lion share but in fact that is not true and there are plenty of untapped rare earth metal mines in the UK. Although the big mines are all in North Korea so if rare earth metals are needed fo the future North Korea could become very rich.

Although that will not be a big problem because new battery tech will use many other types of material and some of the needs now will be short term only.

Lastly remember that fuel cells and hydrogen tech is going to be the long term solution and this giga factory will become a smaller part of the future economy over the next 50 years.

FAIL!!!!

@David Brent Neil Godwin will be heading up the Nissan intake at Swindon lot. Helluva dancer.

UK and EU reached a deal but somehow I cannot see the EU have the UK carte blanche in offering financial incentives to attract investment without some catch.

If not that would place EU countries at a disadvantage.

So will the cars/batteries face some form of higher import duty/taxes, quota limits, etc...?

@Antiquesaving, I don't have a complete answer to your question. I understand that Nissan's Sunderland plant currently exports 70% of its cars to EU countries. However, as part of the UK-EU trade deal, at some point in the future, a certain percentage of the car content has to be produced in the UK or EU countries. (I think it's 80%, but not sure.) Currently, most of the batteries for the Leaf electric car are imported from elsewhere. So without a new battery plant, exports to the EU would be affected at some point.

That doesn't deal with the issue of government assistance. I don't know how that was handled in the trade agreement.

It is Nissan/Datsun, my Dads second car Datsun 120Y de lux. he drove mother across the planet, it never broke down. UK/Japan car manufactures in this case are one

A win-win for the UK and Europe.

So is Nissan now French or Japanese ?

n1k1, good point, not British, hang on, lets think about that?

What defines how we all define ownership?

The customers, that spend their hard owned?

Or the possibility the car industry is being forced to accept change.

The four wheeled money winner could be about to finally face the prospect of denouement.

Made in Britain is just as bad as made in China...

Now all we need is enough electricity generating capacity to support all these new vehicles, and some mega battery storage.

In California for example, which relies to a large degree on wind and sun, people are being asked not to plug in their cars at night. How will the UK find enough electricity supply?

As to Nissan's new lease of life in Sunderland, fantastic news. :clap:

Desert TortoiseToday 07:33 am JST

The steering wheel is on the wrong side for a UK market car.

Ever heard of exporting ?

The good thing is that the new cars won't have Renault engines in them.

Link to the above-mentioned California situation under 'extreme weather events'. The UK government needs to tackle the approaching grid problems soonest.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/california-electriccars-powergrid/2021/06/28/id/1026765/

I located and tried to purchase that Datsun 120Y de lux, I wanted to offer Mum and Dad an surprise wedding anniversary present.

The couple would not give it give up. I offered silly numbers.

They told me their children were conceived in the rear seats and luggage compartments, arms and legs akimbo.

You win some you lose some.

Nice couple, great car, still pristine condition.

Offered if Mum and Day visited to let them drive their stay.