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Pacific trade deal spurs Canadian farm sales to Japan as U.S. watches

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For Western countries like Canada, today's "free trade" deals are great for low-value added industries that pay really low wages, like beef. For Asian countries, deals are great for hi-tech, transport and heavy industry, which provide sustainable growth and wages.

So enjoy those meat exports, Canada. Because soon, your tech and advanced industry will disappear, buried by vast amounts of cheap Asian imports. Slaughterhouse jobs ain't profitable or fun.

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Canada, the world's sixth-largest beef exporter overall, is the second-biggest shipper after the United States of grain-fed beef, which commands a premium over beef from grass-fed cattle. Japan's 38.5 percent beef tariff fell under CPTPP to around 27 percent, with further reductions coming.

27% is still freaking high, considering that that amount is always going to be passed along to the consumer.

One local supermarket often has Canadian beef and I have to admit, it aint bad, still a bit pricey but far cheaper than the American beef! It's also cheaper than Aussie and New Zealand beef too.

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Canadian beef are not hormone fed, unlike US beef, should try tasting Canadian and US fresh milk, you can tell the different.

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Canadian beef are not hormone fed

This article says something different:

The use of hormones is allowed in Canadian beef and has been recognized by the World Health Organization as being a safe practice, said LeaAnne Wuermli, manager of communications and marketing with Beef Farmers of Ontario. https://www.simcoe.com/news-story/8864170-hormones-allowed-in-beef-in-canada-but-not-in-pork-or-chicken/

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So enjoy those meat exports, Canada. Because soon, your tech and advanced industry will disappear, buried by vast amounts of cheap Asian imports. Slaughterhouse jobs ain't profitable or fun.

CPTPP! It's a good story, not often we get out from under USA's shadow. Hopefully more to come, not just for us but all the signatories, since that will allow all of us to do well and find new shared opportunities without China or the USA, which was the entire point.

But this is one industry this article is talking about. We have plenty of programmers and other value added services here that get paid well and don't have to worry about by how much.

The real entrepreneurs in Japan you see at those indie gamer shows that don't get a lot of news. Artists that make their own games or students making their own small businesses.

We can all do something, or make something new

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27% is still freaking high, considering that that amount is always going to be passed along to the consumer.

But it does progressively drop every year. After this year's big reduction, it isn't especially fast, and it doesn't result in total elimination, but in 10 years it'll be 20%, and in 16 years, it'll be 9%.

Presumably you can accept that it's an improvement over the current tariff, and acknowledge that it should result in lower prices and increased competition.

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The more detrimental to the US the better. As much as I feel sorry for the US workers/farmers, the more of them that see that Trump is a dummy playing around with their livelihoods, hopefully, the faster they'll show him the door.

I really hope the CCTPP succeeds for all member countries. I'd love to see a reduction in prices and an increase in the amount and variety of foods we have here in Japan.

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Barley! Japan is already importing barley in quantity from Canada. Australia doesn't have a heck of a lot to export this year and CPTPP puts Canada at the same lower tariffs Australia has enjoyed. Canadian consumers, like Japanese consumers prefer beef with white fat which comes from finishing on barley which gives Canadian exporters an extra advantage.

I believe there is a mistake in the story as JBS has a major beef processing plant in Alberta and is actually a seller, not a buyer.

The agrifood industry employees 1 of every 7 workers in Canada so that country is does not mind closing all their factories.

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Sounds like the US already has the market share with that name. Can Canadians call it Toronto-style instead of new York?

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Sounds like the US already has the market share with that name. Can Canadians call it Toronto-style instead of new York?

Haha! No. Alberta would be apoplectic if it became known as Toronto-style. It would be hilarious, but no, 100% not likely at all.

Toronto has too much variety in meals due to culture and styles including vegan so as 8th top vegan city in the world (funny enough New York is 3rd) there would be better candidates for a Canadian cut of beef name. It wouldn't define the city at all. 100% in Western Canada where the beef comes from would make more sense. I don't see it being Calgary either. Some other town or marketing term would be needed.

If you don't know Alberta ( a province 4 mil) is only slightly larger than Toronto (a city 3 mil) but smaller than the Toronto/GTA (region 6 mil) and the powers that be refuse to allow Toronto to be a province even though the powers that be amalgamated it into one in all but name. Alberta is not one thing or another and certainly deserves to change, but has more conservative climate deniers etc.

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Good for Canada! As an American with Canadian relatives, I envy many aspects of their country including the healthcare system, lower college tuition, and respect for human rights. In my opinion it is good to have a variety of ways of farming and not let the US style of treating animals as fungible machines predominate.

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American farmers losing out in becoming great again

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This article said different too.

Is Canadian Beef Hormone & Antibiotic Free? – Revive ...

https://www.revivewellness.ca/blog/canadian-beef-hormone...

Is Canadian Beef Hormone & Antibiotic Free? Surprisingly, no. Or maybe this is not so surprising. With the development in technologies and research and multiple ads from A&W promoting steroid and hormone free Teen Burgers, you would think it’s common place to have au natural beef.

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@Chucky138 Firstly, it is illegal to sell beef in Canada that contains antibiotics. An animal may have been given a course of antibiotics when sick as it could actually be considered animal abuse if a sick animal is left to die instead of being given medical attention. Any animal that has been treated with antibiotics cannot go into the beef industry until long after the antibiotics have cleared its system.

Secondly, using hormones is part of sustainable beef production. The use of hormones allows the animals to gain weight without overgrazing the land and destroying the ecosystem.

A&W advertising is spurious and plays on the ignorence of consumers. They also advertise the eggs they use come from vegetarian chickens. Chickens are not vegetarian, they are omnivorous. Their favorite thing to eat is probably earthworms or the poop from other chickens. A&W is selling fear and ripping off consumers.

"I only drink organic wine because when I get blind drunk, I want to do it healthily."

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American farmers losing out in becoming great again.

Americans lose all those wonderful opportunities to work at minimum wage in slaughterhouses. The only people willing to do that are extremely desperate and newly arrived immigrants from developing countries. For a country like Canada, that's NOT good for the economy.

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So, will Canada start breeding wagyu?

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So, will Canada start breeding wagyu?

I think it already does.

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