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Toyota tops global auto sales in 2021 for 2nd year in row

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Fantastic, but not surprising news.

No one can make better quality vehicles than Toyota. They are built to last decades, unlike those from most other makes which are built to be obsolete within 5-10 years in many cases.

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The guys where I was recently working are ready to slit each other’s throat for a sale;

(per usual, like any dealership).

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Toyota seems to have a better distribution system is all.

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Michael MachidaToday  07:30 am JST

Toyota seems to have a better distribution system is all.

Not really, Volkswagen has been plagued by scandal after scandal for decades now. Releasing knowingly faulty cars, lying about emissions standards testing, overpricing, I worked for them during the DSG scandal, people died as a result of VW's death traps, will never trust them again.

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Toyota's tight network of trusted suppliers, many domestic with long-term relationships, is the way of the future in a world of global pandemics, communist crackdowns, logistics bottlenecks and other uncertainties. Globalization is on the way out.

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The Toyota hilux has been the best selling car in Australia for the past five years

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Won't last long. Toyota's EV are a joke.

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Toyota's EV are a joke.

Toyota's so far behind they're lobbying the US government to slow down the EV revolution. Won't be long until they'll be asking for Japanese govt subsidies....

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Anyone who thinks Toyota or it's EV's are a joke obviously doesn't know much about cars and has very little, if any "actual" experience in the automotive industry.

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The result includes products sold under the Audi and Porsche brands.

Also Skoda, Seat, Lamborghini, Cupra and Bentley.

For two wheel fans, the VAG group also own Ducati.

Does the Toyota figure also include Hino trucks and Daihatsu? Both 100% owned by Toyota.

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Alfie Noakes wrote "Toyota's so far behind they're lobbying the US government to slow down the EV revolution. Won't be long until they'll be asking for Japanese govt subsidies..." OK...but there's this: Toyota tops global auto sales in 2021 for 2nd year in row

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Horse carriages before the rise of cars.

Of course, cars before the rise of EV as we speak.

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Nothing really great or classy about Toyota but they are reliable vehicles. No surprise. Then you got Fiat. And the old joke was fiat stood for “Fix It Again Ted” because those pieces of junk always break down.

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3 minus votes for pointing out that VW/Audi figure may also include other brands 100% owned by the group..

Harsh? :)

Mr KiplingToday 09:13 am JST

The result includes products sold under the Audi and Porsche brands.

Also Skoda, Seat, Lamborghini, Cupra and Bentley.

For two wheel fans, the VAG group also own Ducati.

Does the Toyota figure also include Hino trucks and Daihatsu? Both 100% owned by Toyota.

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Still don't understand why there needs to be 2 versions of a car. Like what is the difference between a Voxy and Noah? Alphard and Vellfire?

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Toyotas are the best damn cars in the world if you don't want to splash out on a high-end German car. They're easy to work on, too.

I have a Camry that I bought almost new. I've put 150,000 miles on the thing and I've yet to bring it into a shop for any work (other than a factory recall on a torque converter). There's been nothing that car has needed that I couldn't do myself guided by YouTube videos. I once owned a rebadged Pontiac with a Corolla motor, that thing went like a champ, too.

I'll stick with buying Toyotas. Plus my brother-in-law in Aichi works there, so Toyota feeds my niece and nephews.

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Not really, Volkswagen has been plagued by scandal after scandal for decades now. Releasing knowingly faulty cars, lying about emissions standards testing, overpricing, I worked for them during the DSG scandal, people died as a result of VW's death traps, will never trust them again.

And yet my two somewhat older Audis are the best cars I have ever owned and a lot easier and less costly to live with than our two Toyotas.

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Yes nothing to be surprised about.

Just check results of ales in Japan for 2021/as extra info/

1 Toyota Yaris 212 927 140,3%

2 Toyota Roomy 134 801 154,5%

3 Toyota Corolla 118 065 93,7%

4 Toyota Alphard 95 049 104,7%

5 Nissan Note 90 177 124,9%

6 Toyota Raize 81 880 65%

7 Toyota Harrier 74 575 112,9%

8 Toyota Aqua 72 495 121,7%

9 Toyota Voxy 70 085 100,8%

10 Honda Freed 69 577 91,2%

As you can see there were 8 cars from Toyota /Japan top sales in 2021/,last number showing difference of sales with 2020.

So there is no Golf or any Audi so far.European market sales may be not strong as VW group but yes Toyota have strong position in USA,Canada,Australia,NZ,everywhere...

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Still don't understand why there needs to be 2 versions of a car. Like what is the difference between a Voxy and Noah? Alphard and Vellfire?

One could perhaps ask the same question of an Audi A6 and VW Passat. Some would sneer at the pedestrian Passat as maybe too plain for their tastes, but others like myself who don't want a car with a dashboard full of computerized gee-whiz "infotainment" nonsense and who still prefer to shift one's own gears (and take pride in a smoothly executed double clutch downshift) will gravitate to the Passat. The build quality and interiors are pretty much equal but the Vee Dub spares you all the electronic fluff and lets you practice the increasingly rare skills of matching revs to road speed. Plus in parts of Eastern Europe Skoda has brand equity and an established dealer network. Same thing with Seat in Spain back when that was VWs way to sell cars. Spain is of course long past its fascist days and open economically but VW established brand loyalty in Spain using the Seat brand.

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Toyota seems to have a better distribution system is all.

For me my Toyota (owned long ago in another country) had more than enough power to handle roadways where high speeds were the norm, was fuel-efficient and also highly reliable. And the local Toyota dealer followed through on whatever had been promised. I hope to never own another car, but if I have to, I'd buy another Toyota, especially if their e-cars are of the same quality as their fossil era cars. But as long as I live where I do in Japan, I anticipate never having to own another car. Cars are objects that should go away the way horse drawn carriages did. Maybe some cars can be brought out for parades where people could recall what it was like to breathe exhaust fumes, like the way parades today that include horses remind people of the various messes and stenches left behind by horses. But at least some of the horse leavings can add value e.g. when used as fertilizer, whereas vehicle exhaust only causes an array of problems that linger and multiply.

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@SDCA

Still don't understand why there needs to be 2 versions of a car. Like what is the difference between a Voxy and Noah? Alphard and Vellfire?

Reason is simple as both Alphard and Vellfire or Noah and Voxy are sold through different car dealers network/Netz Toyota and Toyopet-Toyota Corolla in our area/.Mechanically both Alphard/Vellfire and Noah/Voxy are identical,there are slight design differences and other parts/say headlights,tail lamps etc/.

Toyota have plans to merge dealers network in Japan in near future so may reduce models as well/and have plan to increase line up with EV for example/.

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not suprised - my sister who lives back home drives a Toyota Aygo and has clocked over 200,000km and still going strong... Toyotas are the best!

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Toyota Alphards are f'n cool. I never understood why they don't sell them in the US.

Underpowered by US standards for one thing. US roads are wider and so are most US market cars, which is why Toyota designs and manufactures cars in the US specific to the US market. There has to be a business case for an Alphard in the US to justify the investment in the US required safety and emissions equipment and testing to certify the car for sale in the US. It would probably only poach sales from the Sienna rather than capture a different market. If it was the only Toyota offering in that segment Toyota would likely surrender sales to Chrysler and Honda. These are hard nosed business decisions and why, for example, Toyota doesn't sell the Hilux or the most recent Land Cruiser in the US.

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For me my Toyota (owned long ago in another country) had more than enough power to handle roadways where high speeds were the norm

Our two Avalon's have plenty of speed, but the wallowy handling ( I call the newer one the Tuna Boat) and the numb steering and brakes don't inspire any confidence in them. You don't want to go fast because they start feeling scary. It's the difference between the car kind of egging you on to go faster (Audi or a Ford Focus) and the car kind of warning you not to go there. The older Toyota especially feels like every corner is doing something different all the time and the steering tells you nothing. New struts (Sachs monotube, not cheap), new suspension components, Michelin rubber but no feel. The newer Toyota has higher limits but there is absolutely no communication to the driver. A good German car talks through the steering wheel, brake pedal and seat of the pants. The Germans call this "speed feel".

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not suprised - my sister who lives back home drives a Toyota Aygo and has clocked over 200,000km and still going strong... Toyotas are the best!

One of my motorcycles has 500,000 km. Modern pollution controls have forced manufacturers to use much higher quality materials in their engines and exhaust systems so they can pass the emissions testing regimens most nations now require that include the car passing emissions tests after 100,000 km or more with no maintenance at all (cars have to survive complete neglect and still not pollute). Almost any car sold in the past twenty five years by any manufacturer will easily last half a million kilometers given reasonable care.

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"Japan car makers have a weak and very late EV strategy that will never catch up just like the iPhone destroyed the Japanese phone market."

That will never catch up?!

Only a JT "expert" to come up with such a gem.

It took Japan 35 year to catch up (and then surpass) many after the Meiji revolution, joining the league of major Powers.

"Experts" at the time also said "no worries, they'll never catch up".

Lack of historical knowledge is blatant here on JT.

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"Japan car makers have a weak and very late EV strategy that will never catch up just like the iPhone destroyed the Japanese phone market."

I remember shaking my head at early Toyota Corona with their tan vinyl stapled to cardboard door panels and black padded dashboards that cracked and curled like a potato chip in the hot California sun. And look at this funny little Honda car thing with it's itty bitty engine and no room or the crummy little Datsun pick ups with single wall beds that almost immediately sported dings from things tossed inside and gear shifts that buzzed like an angry rattle snake as you drove with what seemed like so little leg room your knees were almost in your chin. The "Big Three" had nothing to worry about from these guys was the prevalent thought. We see how that worked out.

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Oh dear. Who buys Toyota cars? A dreadful brand.

Almost everyone else.

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