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Sh1mon M4sada
LOCK EM UP.
They probably got entry into their medical training from the university sex rigging too.
Chip Star
Foul.
Yubaru
One, I sincerely hope the cops took a rape kit and blood sample here, particularly since the woman reported it to police shortly after the assault.
The keystones here have been known to "victim blame" and destroy evidence through lack of knowledge how to take care of a victim of assault.
Next, if these two are guilty by all means give them their trial and if found guilty throw them away to be the toy-boys of those in prison!
Their careers are probably already destroyed by these accusations alone, let's hope there is proof to back it up!
Hiro
These things are hard to proof. But they can probably kiss their license goodbye after this scandal.
Yubaru
Not really, if there is evidence of a drug in her system, the victims allegations will add to the case against these two.
There have also been cases here of guys getting accused of assault and turns out that it was the person making the accusations that ended up being the one charged for lying. They got themselves into something that they couldn't handle and lied to cover up for it.
I dont want this to come across wrong here, as there are potentially 3 victims here, if her allegations are true, throw the book at them. However if she saw two doctors (meal ticket to successful and easy life) she just destroyed their careers and future because of it!
I would love to know if there was anyone else at this party with them? Typically here, women do not go out with two guys alone. Nothing wrong with it of course, but a 20's something young woman, maybe out with two guys, doctors no less, drinking and having a good time. And things went wrong.......
And once again I am quite confident we will not get the "rest of the story"
kurisupisu
So, what drug said found ?
Lack of facts!
Bintaro
I hope this two go to jail and kiss their medical license goodbye.
But, being doctors, they most certainly are are rich kids, meaning mom and dad will give the victim some cash so everyone forget this story.
Aly Rustom
that's what I'm worried about
kawabegawa198
I see you don't know much about how Japan works.
gelendestrasse
If you can't say yes it means no. And yeah, their licenses should be taken and then the trial and jail. Apologies don't count here.
Wolfpack
Guilty before the trial has even taken place? There is a good probability that she is telling the truth but sometimes sympathetic people lie (ahem Jusse Smollet, ahem). At this point there is just the accusation.
Wakarimasen
Hypocritical oath alive and well.
girl_in_tokyo
"A meal ticket to a sucsseful and easy life?" Are you kidding me? Exactly how much money do you think a rape victim can get from her attacker? How does getting a few hundred thousand yen make you a success in life? And how can your life be easy after you have been raped, are forced to go though a lengthy trial where you are counter-accused and slut shamed, and for the rest of your life become known as "the girl who was raped"? Do you have even the slightest inkling of what women who report rape go though? Perhaps you just don't care. Knowing that men like you exist just makes me sick to my stomach.
Cricky
She was unconscious as the blood tests showed the drug. So it probably wasn't consensual, the were two men involved...that's gang rape, even if only one of them text book rapped her, the other participated too in his own way. I applaud this woman for being strong enough to get this far. The police are reluctant to get involved from what women have told me. And the social stigma is on its head, she will be made our to be the instigator and eventually a story teller. Doctors are a strange breed in Japan.
Goodlucktoyou
As a medical related worker, I think that the fact they are doctors is not relevant. The fact is...they are rapists. Blaming somebody more because of their profession is hiding the fact that they raped! Raped.
Spidey
Victims come in all shapes and sizes. As do perpetrators. Food for thought.
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Ascissor
In the Japanese-language article I read this morning (Asahi Shimbun), it said that a test revealed evidence of drugging.
doel jusino
No mention in this story by her as to which guy raped her or if both guys raped her ... Sure one guy said they had sex but it was of mutual consent. How can she say it wasn't if she had been drinking since about 730pm then she went back to the guys house ( Butt Call ) I believe she had sex then regretted it so to make her self feel better yelled Rape. It happens a lot. Maybe when she drinks she's what they call SHI RE GA RU / YA RI MAN anyway hope she learns not to drink so much & not to go to a guys home when she does drink.
nedotjp
Not sharing the name on the internet of a drug that could allow someone to be rendered helpless and raped is a good idea
Andrew Crisp
So that proves there was drugs in her system - but it doesn't prove the Doctors placed the drugs in her drinks.
Forced penetration can be proven if the victim was taken to hospital for examination, but the article doesn't confirm that happened.
Just a guess the "victim" will be paid off, and things will move on as normal.
WilliB
Not making any claims about this case, but there HAVE been cases like this, with various motivations. So I don´t think you want to go to down the road of claiming that one particular group of people never ever lies.
Strangerland
I've had a case like this happen to me - fortunately it never went legal. I made out with a girl, but unknown to her at the time, I had also made out with her friend an hour earlier at the same party. I found out two years later that she had told people I took advantage of her when she was sleeping, even though she was the one who came into the room I was sleeping in, and woke me up (after which said making out occurred).
People deserve due process. If we start shifting the world to believing any accusation without due process, we all suffer for it.
Omachi
While at this point, we cannot know for sure that these two drugged her - the security camera at the apartment shows that she was being carried (from TV news) - so there is no doubt it was rape. I believe that the police will find the source of the drugs.
girl_in_tokyo
Why is that even important? All that actually matters here is that a woman was raped.
The fact she was drugged proves it was non-consensual. You cannot consent if you are not conscious.
She did not go to his home. She went to a karaoke bar, and then she was taken, unconscious, to his home.
This comment makes no sense whatsoever. When women regret sex, they don't tell anyone. But if you report rape, you will have to face a courtroom full of people who will drag you though the mud, slut shame you, blame you, denigrate you and your reputation, and you will always be known as "the girl who was raped." That is the exact OPPOSITE of what a woman would do if she had sex and then regretted it.
Women go drinking all the time, with men, in a bars where strange men also are drinking, in a world where 50% of the population is men - yet not all women have been raped. This seems to show that it isn't the presence of men that matters, but the presence of a particuar TYPE of man, aka, a rapist.I find it rather odd that you would make this statement, since most of the time guys like you are crying #notallmen! Not all men rape! Yet here you are, basically saying that women should never, ever go drinking with a man men because the man will rape her - you are saying that all men rape. Do you honestly have that low of an opinion of men? I sure don't. My low opinion of men starts with men like you, who seem to think that all women lie and all men rape.
Omachi
Reported elsewhere yesterday - the police found the same drug in the apartment of one of these rapists.