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3 Mitsubishi Materials subsidiaries falsified product quality data

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The image of Japan continues to decline. "Japan Ranked Last Choice in Asia for Top Foreign Talent" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/japan-ranked-last-choice-in-asia-for-top-foreign-talent

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Japan Inc's mask is slowly being removed and showing just how fraudulent and corrupt it really is.

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The revelation comes on the heels of quality control scandals at other major Japanese firms

I for one am not surprised one bit with this news, just waiting to read about how many more there are!

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This is all starting to sound like the Soviet Union, where people pretended to work and the state pretended to pay them.

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This should delay any trade talks with Japan as it can't show it has any mechanisms to prevent substandard products

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nikkei will be down today I pick, but not because of this alone.

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Sf2k, I think we should stay out of it and let potential customers (and shareholders) deal with these problems.

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DisillusionedToday 07:23 am JSTJapan Inc's mask is slowly being removed and showing just how fraudulent and corrupt it really is.

besides airbags, i'll take a japanese made product over a chinese made product any day of the week and twice on sundays. japanese standards for products are above and beyond most countries' standards. so even if these prodcuts are "substandard," they would still be of better quality than most countries.

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Will anyone goto jail? Will anyone be fined? Governance in Japan is shocking... returning part of your salary is not a punishment!

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 japanese standards for products are above and beyond most countries' standards. so even if these prodcuts are "substandard," they would still be of better quality than most countries.

While that may be true (and I personally have confidence in the Japanese products I buy), it is still a huge problem if a company lies about its quality or (even worse) alters data. It is an even bigger problem if many companies are doing it routinely. There needs to be a far more honest assessment in Japan of what can't be achieved, because a lot of these scandals arise from an inability to admit that a particular standard or requirement was not attained, or is actually unattainable. And while it's kind of fun to hear amaze-o-facts like the shinkansen's perfect safety record, or Aomori Airport having no flight cancellation due to uncleared snow in 50 years of operation

http://aomori.showcase.japantimes.co.jp/news/?key=aomori3

or KIX never losing a piece of luggage, it also tends to activate one's nonsense detectors. In addition, there can be a cost to this, which is the belief that the worst can't or won't happen, leading to an inability to act appropriately when it does, and there are also some quite unreasonable expectations from the public at large.

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Mitsubishi Materials said it will hold a press conference Friday regarding the matter.

prepare to see bald spots and hear "moshi wake arimasen" a lot

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Good job CIA !

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Their stock price is down 8.5% as of now, no one should think these scandals are going unpunished.

Shareholders should demand heads, and customers should look elsewhere for sellers.

These would be normal market reactions. One is curious whether this will play out as such here in Japan.

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I think it's interetsing to compare this news with the recent article stating Japanese students among the best problem solvers. A case of the group working for the group only, unconcerned with others outside the group.

Something else  is that a few years back there was the food scandal: high class food actually being mediocre or low level food. This is unacceptable but no one really gets hurt. But these recent scandlas center around aeronautcs, heavy machinery, etc. If these fail then lives could be lost. This is an entirely different ball game. Will there be repercussions?

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Their stock price is down 8.5% as of now, no one should think these scandals are going unpunished.

Shareholders should demand heads, and customers should look elsewhere for sellers.

They wont and all will be forgotten in 6 months. Welcome to Japan where getting caught is cause for apologies.

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The few so far are tip of the iceberg.

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@ Nakanoguy01 - japanese standards for products are above and beyond most countries' standards. 

Now, you are spouting garbage! The term 'made in Japan' is no longer relevant. It needs to be changed to 'Assembled in Japan' or 'Produced in Japan' because all Japanese products are filled with components made in other parts of Asia and around the world. For example, there is not one LCD screen manufacturer in Japan, but there are many Japanese products that contain LCD screens.

My personal experience is with guitars. In 2008 you could buy a 'Made in Japan' Fender Stratocaster for around ¥40,000, which had very high quality 'Japanese made' pick ups, switches and controllers. The body was also made out of alder. However, it all changed dramatically in 2010 with no information to the consumer. The electrics are all the exact same cheap Chinese crap you get in a ¥10,000 guitar and the bodies are made from basswood, like the cheap Chinese guitars in the ¥10-15,000 price range. Now, the real kicker is, they have doubled in price since 2010 to ¥70-100,000. This is a good example 'Japanese quality'. It is all window dressing! Yeah, their products may look good, but the quality is only as good as the imported components that they put in them.

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I notice that the trend is quality down and price up.

In my business, people seem to be ok with selling inferior or defective products - it is a worry....

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@fxgai

Nikkei will be down today I pick, but not because of this alone.

Nikkei ended higher Friday by 28 points. LOL.

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As with government employees... corporate leaders and managers and their rules, policies, procedures and styles may change... but actual work is being done by employees that are "established" within the system with relationships and work culture that may not change with corporate culture established and dictated from above...

A lot has to do with "real" and "realistic" personnel evaluation and work review based upon something other than just "work hours spent", the "quantity" produced, "apparent" quality and "record-keeping" for "justification" purposes but with the "end user" in mind...

That is corporate work culture found in those who "actually meet and work with" the end-user...

Sometimes it is important that all workers that produce actually meet with the end-user/consumer/customer/client/guest...

Or the corporate work culture must first define and train those who produce... to recognize the value of their work for the end-user...

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