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4 firefighters arrested over gang-rape of teenager at karaoke parlor

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Police in Saitama City said Tuesday they have arrested four firefighters on suspicion of raping an intoxicated teenager in Saitama City last November.

The suspects are employed at fire fighting unions in the same prefecture, Fuji TV reported. According to Omiya police, the suspects are Takaya Kotake, 23, Hiroyuki Kaku, 25, Shun Kato, 23, and Yuki Shimamura, 23, from the Saitama City Fire Department. All four were arrested on Monday.

The four suspects are accused of gang-raping the teenager in a karaoke booth in Saitama City before dawn on Nov 2, 2019. The underage victim had passed out after drinking alcohol at the time of the sexual assault, police said.

Police said the four suspects and the victim did not know each other. They invited the teenager, who was with a group of friends, to join them in their booth.

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Police said the four suspects and the victim did not know each other. They invited the teenager, who was with a group of friends, to join them in their booth.

Let this be another lesson for people, be wary of invitations from complete strangers, especially if you're the only one being invited. Always be safe and stay cautious. Arrest these firefighters, they no longer deserve to serve the country.

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If she was unconscious and unable to give consent, then it was definitely rape. However, I bet they all find forgiveness after a huge payoff.

2 ( +7 / -5 )

Let’s hope they get Epstiened! Disgusting trash!

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Filth

14 ( +14 / -0 )

Why was an underaged teen out all night? Underage drinking? Are they saying that this teen was 18-19 years of age?

Where were the friends? They did not check on her?

I thought most karaoke rooms have cameras now a days.

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Scum of the earth!

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@silvafan

never seen a camera in my ‘hood

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Why was an underaged teen out all night? Underage drinking? Are they saying that this teen was 18-19 years of age?

Where were the friends? They did not check on her?

I thought most karaoke rooms have cameras now a days.

Why are you blaming the victim? Even if she made poor choices, these guys took advantage of her and she was raped.

5 ( +11 / -6 )

Raping bastards need the full force of the law, but of course they won't get it. Instead, the victim - the young woman they all raped while she was unconscious - will be accused.

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@that person

@silvafan

never seen a camera in my ‘hood

Well......not all hoods are the same! Are you sure that you never noticed the camera? Sometimes they are hidden for both good and bad reasons.

I have only been to the chains in Tokyo and Chiba, but they all had cameras. If you go to some mom and pop karaoke that might be different.

Why don't you ask the staff?

Why are you blaming the victim? Even if she made poor choices, these guys took advantage of her and she was raped.

@StevieJ

Thank you for sharing your ability to mind read and put words in other people's mouths! (Sarcasm)

Another person does not what "victim blaming" actually means!

What people call victim blaming is when people bring it up after the fact and saying it's her fault for going to those areas. Telling people to be careful where they go is just something everyone does.

More faulty logic on your part! It is not an either......or situation. You can be a victim and still have some fault in the situation.

Let me explain common sense to you!

a) Telling women to be careful about people you associate with when it comes to your safety is not victim blaming for assault. It's precaution that applies to everyone.

b) Telling women to be cautious about going out at night when it's at a sketchy time in a sketchy area is not blaming victims it's just good common sense safety that applies to everyone.

Risk mitigation isn't victim blaming. I've had actual debates with people who got robbed who said they "did nothing wrong" leaving their car unlocked. Listen buddy, whatever you "gain" by leaving your car unlocked probably aren't worth the pragmatic realities that WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY where people steal s%&t.

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The four suspects are accused

It does sound terrible. Nonetheless this cyber-lynching sounds pretty bad too.

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Terrible. Just terrible. Heads need to roll, from those at the establishment, to the friends who may have let her drink, to the four guys. Many questions also need answering like where were her friends and the staff while all this was going on? Why did the establishment let an underage teenager drink or was she drunk prior to being allowed in? If they are proved guilty, no less than 20 years apiece for such a heinous crime and the establishment should not get off lightly either. Poor girl was enjoying her young adulthood and got terribly violated. If this were my child, there isn't a part of the world these boys could run to to get away from the wrath that would be coming toward them. Scum.

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@Mocheake

Many questions also need answering like where were her friends and the staff while all this was going on? Why did the establishment let an underage teenager drink or was she drunk prior to being allowed in? 

Be careful!

Asking commons sense questions will get you accused of "victim blaming" by @StevieJ!

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Men who don't know that sticking their penis into someone without their consent is wrong, ought to lose the right to use it. Castrate all rapists. The sympathy and lenient sentencing only teaches men to keep raping.

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Why was an underaged teen out all night? Underage drinking? Are they saying that this teen was 18-19 years of age?

No, they're saying she's a teen.

But she may have been 18-19, and being out all night with her friends wouldn't be strange at all. So why the outrage?

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@Strangerland

No, they're saying she's a teen.

But she may have been 18-19, and being out all night with her friends wouldn't be strange at all. So why the outrage?

The same could be asked of you. Why are you concerned that I asked questions about an article missing some important details?

:)

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4 firefighters are employed at fire fighting unions in Saitama City Fire Department.

Good they put their names out there, these criminals have broken the j-public trust, and destroyed their careers over stupid jail bait thirsty acts.

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Risk mitigation isn't victim blaming. I've had actual debates with people who got robbed who said they "did nothing wrong" leaving their car unlocked. Listen buddy, whatever you "gain" by leaving your car unlocked probably aren't worth the pragmatic realities that WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY where people steal s%&t.

Risk mitigation is done ahead of time. It's giving advice to people on how one can protect themselves, to prepare for unfamiliar situations.

After an incident has been completed, there is no risk to mitigate. Risk relates to future events, there is no concept of risk for things in the past.

When you point out where a victim went wrong after the fact, that's what people call victim blaming. They call it this, because you're saying to someone who is a clear victim, that they should have done A or B to protect themselves. This serves no purpose, as the incident has already happened, and they cannot go back in time to fix it. It comes across as blaming the victim for not being well prepared, as if one should be morally culpable for not having prepared for an unexpected event.

Finally, it's just bad taste to point it out to someone who has just been victimized. This is why people give you negative comments when you do so, because society finds people who make such statements to be distasteful.

Why would you want to say thing that make society find you distasteful? Maybe it would be better to save your feedback, and find a more appropriate venue to present it to people ahead of time, where it can help them mitigate risk.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

Doesn't matter what age she was.

It was a violation. Please stop blaming victims.

Just. Stop.

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@Strangerland

Risk mitigation is done ahead of time. It's giving advice to people on how one can protect themselves, to prepare for unfamiliar situations.

After an incident has been completed, there is no risk to mitigate. Risk relates to future events, there is no concept of risk for things in the past.

When you point out where a victim went wrong after the fact, that's what people call victim blaming. They call it this, because you're saying to someone who is a clear victim, that they should have done A or B to protect themselves. This serves no purpose, as the incident has already happened, and they cannot go back in time to fix it. It comes across as blaming the victim for not being well prepared, as if one should be morally culpable for not having prepared for an unexpected event.

Finally, it's just bad taste to point it out to someone who has just been victimized. This is why people give you negative comments when you do so, because society finds people who make such statements to be distasteful.

Why would you want to say thing that make society find you distasteful? Maybe it would be better to save your feedback, and find a more appropriate venue to present it to people ahead of time, where it can help them mitigate risk.

After all of your rambling, you miss one important point. My questions were asked of the parents, friends and the establishment. Not once have I said anything of the teenager in question or blamed her.

Show me!

This serves no purpose, as the incident has already happened, and they cannot go back in time to fix it. It comes across as blaming the victim for not being well prepared, as if one should be morally culpable for not having prepared for an unexpected event.

More illogical thinking! Really no purpose? It can help that same person to avoid having the same thing happen to them again and also, be used as a lesson to help others avoid that situation in the future.

Based on your logic, why do rape prevention classes even exist? Why do sex education courses even exist?

:)

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@Toasted Heretic

Doesn't matter what age she was.

It was a violation. Please stop blaming victims.

Just. Stop.

Who is blaming the victim? The person asking questions about information missing from the article?

Try again!

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Lock these dirtbags up for a long time.

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MariaToday  10:15 am JST

Men who don't know that sticking their penis into someone without their consent is wrong, ought to lose the right to use it. Castrate all rapists. The sympathy and lenient sentencing only teaches men to keep raping.

While I do share your understandable outrage, women also rape, definitely not as much as men but it DOES happen. The infamous case of Mary Kay LeTourneau comes to mind. Should women have their vaginas or genitalia surgically removed too or is your outrage only reserved for when males rape? By the way, castration is removal of the testicles, not the penis.

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@Toasted Heretic

Doesn't matter what age she was.

It was a violation. Please stop blaming victims.

Just. Stop.

Are the parents of the victim wanting to know what happened "blaming the victim"? Are the police interviewing the victim, "blaming the victim"?

Utter nonsense! Think before you post!

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

Straight up and down fools, threw away their livelihood over foolishness, during a pandemic!

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Disgusting, pieces of filth. I hope justice will be served to them

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The young woman is blameless although you may question her decision to get drunk at, what I assume was a busy karaoke establishment during a pandemic...and then abandon her friends for, what I assume again, was a rowdy room of young men. You hate to see young people throwing away their careers like this and, before we, ah, assume too much.....let the facts work themselves out and let justice prevail. Unfortunate.

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@SteveiJ

@Silvafan

Sounds like a lot of excuses, you're victim blaming my man, it's painfully obvious in your first reply when you ask "WhErE aRe HeR fRiEnDs? WhY WaS sHe DrInKiNg?!?!?!"

You talk about common sense but then think that phrasing your victim blaming as a question isn't victim blaming?

Unfortunately, "my man" not once have you actually explained how blamed the victim for anything. Simply calling someone something doe not make it true! See how that works?

"WhErE aRe HeR fRiEnDs? WhY WaS sHe DrInKiNg?!?!?!"

See how you have to put words in my original post to make your argument valid? That is a "strawman argument". Logic can be your friend when you use it properly.

It sounds like the excuses are coming from you.

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Stop victim blaming. It doesn’t matter where she was, how old she is and what she drank or was wearing. It is not her fault. The men with an over riding sense of entitlement who raped her are they only ones to blame. No one else. In their haste to criticise the victim some posters have shown zero empathy for the poor woman.

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@Silvafan

Why was an underaged teen out all night?

Because it is an underaged teen so she does what underaged teens do.

Underage drinking?

As she was drunk, most likely.

Are they saying that this teen was 18-19 years of age?

No they are not and do not understand what it could be relevant here because it will still means underaged drinking.

Where were the friends?

Seems not in the same room.

They did not check on her?

We do not know. After, perhaps, since their friend was taken care by trusted autority representative that firefighters are, they thought she will be safe and protected until the alcohol run out and she can make it home (if she was drunk to start with). Or, perhaps they were too drunk themselves to think something else than : "Where are the toilets, I need to puke ?" ...

I thought most karaoke rooms have cameras now a days.

You wanted a video ? If there was one, the police should have it. If not, the police will not have it.

Where are the question for the firefighters ?

Why did you invite a teenager in your room ? Why did you decide to have your way with her ? Did you give her alcohol even thought she was underaged ? If yes, why did you give her alcohol ? ...

= they are the ones suspected of rape, thus they are the ones which should have to answer question.

Why are you focused on the other people ? If they broke some law, they will be prosecuted/sanctioned or not. The article is about a rape case.

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@Flute

Everything you said so way off base and irrational it is not funny.

Because it is an underaged teen so she does what underaged teens do.

All teenagers do not break the law.

No they are not and do not understand what it could be relevant here because it will still means underaged drinking.

How do you know whether it is relevant or not?

The definition of a teenager is anyone between the age of 13-19. Therefore, 18-19 is still a teenager. In Japan, you are are not an adult until 20, so a 18 or 19 year-old drinking has more responsibility for their actions than a 13 year old. Duh???

We do not know. After, perhaps, since their friend was taken care by trusted autority representative that firefighters are, they thought she will be safe and protected until the alcohol run out and she can make it home (if she was drunk to start with). Or, perhaps they were too drunk themselves to think something else than : "Where are the toilets, I need to puke ?" ...

Yes, we do not know; therefore, I asked the question. How do you know that they introduced themselves as firefighters? Leaps in logic!

You wanted a video ? If there was one, the police should have it. If not, the police will not have it.

What???

Where are the question for the firefighters ?

Why did you invite a teenager in your room ? Why did you decide to have your way with her ? Did you give her alcohol even thought she was underaged ? If yes, why did you give her alcohol ? ...

= they are the ones suspected of rape, thus they are the ones which should have to answer question.

Why are you focused on the other people ? If they broke some law, they will be prosecuted/sanctioned or not. The article is about a rape case.

Why are concerned with me asking questions about the case?

Why would I ask questions implying that they are guilty when we do not know for sure?

Bias much?

Police in Saitama City said Tuesday they have arrested four firefighters on suspicion of raping an intoxicated teenager in Saitama City last November.

I would like to know all the details before making a decision. I am not jumping to conclusions like you and others. I am focused on the other people because they can give us information that will either help or hurt her case.

a) We do not know if they actually raped the alleged victim. It could also be a case of regret after the fact or pressure from her friends once learning what happened.

b) We do not know the age of the alleged victim. If she 18-19 then it is still her word against there's without solid evidence or confession that is not forced. If she is less than the age of consent then it is a lot easier to charge the men with rape willing or not. If they can prove that sex took place.

c) Friends can either support her allegations or contradict them.

d) A camera could verify if she was already drunk when she arrived or became drunk at the Karaoke bar. They are there in most respectable karaoke bars for the protection of the business and their patrons. It could also verify her claims or disprove them.

You like everyone else are selectively showing huge gaps in logic and reasoning. Innocent until proven guilty!

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@Luddite

Stop victim blaming. It doesn’t matter where she was, how old she is and what she drank or was wearing. It is not her fault. The men with an over riding sense of entitlement who raped her are they only ones to blame. No one else. In their haste to criticise the victim some posters have shown zero empathy for the poor woman.

Innocent until proven guilty!

It seems that I am the only one who wants to know the truth!

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MariaToday  10:15 am JST

Men who don't know that sticking their penis into someone without their consent is wrong, ought to lose the right to use it.

Castrate all rapists.

What a GREAT idea..what if someone was / is UN-Justly ACCUSED ? and the usual Conviction Rate in Japan goes through, even if innocent?

Cut ‘em off, ‘eh?

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"four firefighters on suspicion of raping an intoxicated teenager" quite a few of the above comments have already judged these guys, and sent them to a prison or XYZ, remember, alleged and suspicion. we don't know all of the facts yet so please don't be the jury or judges until ALL of the facts have been presented. if these four firefighter are innocent, there careers are pretty much in taters now, just put your self in there places, they are going to be scrutinised at work and at home, relationships will, could break down leading to separation or divorce, even if they are innocent, I am not saying they are guilty or not guilty, but lets wait until all of the fact are presented before we judge them. As for the girl, why was she drunk and under age? who served her booze? did her friends get it for her? if so they have some sort of responsibility for their actions.

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sigh........who to blame and where to start?

Well......

Start with the police. This crime happened in November 2019, but the suspects were only arrested in July 2020. What were they doing all this time? Collecting evidence?

Next the "underaged victim" labeled as a teenager.

Well, how old was she exactly?

13 - 17? Then you blame the parents for not doing their job as parents and parenting their child. That's because their child was out all night drinking somewhere.

18 and still in High school? See above.

18 and out of high school? See below.

19? They are technically adults even if Japan doesn't recognize this and are responsible for their own actions, no matter what. It's the real world out there. We all make bad choices in life, we all have to deal with the consequences.

Onto the karaoke establishment. Why are they not carding people? Oh wait. This is Japan. Also why would they card, when they could have a paying customer in there, whether she was of age or not. Dumb question.............

Finally on to the 4 pieces of trash. They are definitely to blame. All 4 have been fired, should be blacklisted from any future civil servant job. Should all be castrated. Should all serve maximum jail time. Should be put on a national sexual predator list (which for some insane reason doesn't exist in Japan). Should have their faces and mug shots available to the public for all to be seen. Should just disappear from the planet.

So who's to blame?

All of the above.

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@WA4TKG

Cut ‘em off, ‘eh?

Chemical castration is regularly used. Removes the urge to rape.

What do you suggest - teach men not to rape? Give men a curfew? Ask them nicely to stop raping? How's that working out?

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