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Court extends Ghosn's detention until April 22

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10 ( +13 / -3 )

How predictable.

13 ( +15 / -2 )

And that's how they deal with the concept of "bail"

10 ( +14 / -4 )

As much as I think he's been railroaded and stabbed in the back, I can't really feel all that sorry for a multi-millionaire who's been ousted.

He's still a million times richer than I am and will go back to a life exuberant luxury (that is if he doesn't wind up in jail).

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

The thing here is "wait and see" till all the facts are in and any formal charges are made for this case.

Sad that the accused is being held for such a long time. But then we do not have all the facts not know the entire set of laws that govern these cases.

We are being informed by indirect sources like the media which may or may not have all the factual information. The authorities and the prosecutors cannot reveal anything, the accusers cannot reveal anything and only the defendant or the accused have the opening to reveal that which is allowed but beneficial to the defendant as they too cannot reveal their defense. Which means this is still a "trial" using the media by the media.

It is now time to wait for the actual charges and the substantiating evidences that the prosecutors are "allowed" to openly disclose. Either position really cannot be revealed till the actual trial.

However, besides this case itself. The actual process so far has put many corporations within Japan that deal with foreigners and foreign corporations on alert, and have been forewarned as to what they must be careful for and watch out for when hiring foreign corporate officers regardless of their ability, connections, and resulting "benefits" if any.

It also exposed the disproportionate sets of authorities and powers as well as benefits those executives in major corporation may or may not be entitled to or should be considered for, when the entire corporate or company's operation is considered.

A rude awakening for Nissan and probably many other corporation world wide.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

@kazetsukai

I agree. This is all just a big media war until something actually happens. It’s a bunch of hearsay without any actual proof given on both sides.

As for the big changes, I don’t think corporations will change anything. It will be BAU. Regulatory changes and huge incidents/movements that occur across multiple industries or multiple countries is what makes corporations make changes. The Ghosn issue would be viewed more like an exception or extraordinary circumstance.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

And the "hostage justice" continues ...

15 ( +19 / -4 )

Has Japan EVER treated one of its own myriad corrupt business leaders in this fashion?

11 ( +16 / -5 )

jeopardizing the auto-making alliance he masterminded

He never masterminded it, he was just put in charge.

3 ( +8 / -5 )

Even now, 150 years after opening up, there is a huge disconnect between how law actually works as a thinly disguised instrument of constraint and the ideal, an impartial arbiter and safeguard against oppression. As the Ghosn debacle demonstrates, elite contempt for the Western view of law and a Tokugawaesque preference for dealing with things in the ‘Japanese way’ is only thinly masked. 

In his Introduction to Japanese Law (1976), Noda makes the point that those tasked with drafting the new Meiji laws, using firstly the Napoleonic Code (later, German models) as their template, “had to invent terms for concepts that were totally alien to Japanese thinking.” Another has made the point that if Western democracies relied as little on law as Japan does, they would be rocked by incessant civil commotion and probably witness a collapse of the authority structure. While conversely, if Japan were to use the law as it is used in the Western democracies, and as it is supposed to be used under the Japanese constitution, the present Japanese authority structure would collapse.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

Why weren’t Olympus, Toshiba, TEPCO, Taisei, and so many other company executives treated similarly?! For TEPCO and Taisei they put lives at risk, but nothing.

This is disgraceful, a tactic to bully and get confession only. What if they find him innocent?

9 ( +14 / -5 )

@joe. Tepco is in court now, minus Shimazu. I agree with what you say, but you can’t let every single criminal off just because some get let off.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

126 days now — and it’s Ghosn who’s guilty of abuse of power? Hmm ...

7 ( +9 / -2 )

@oyatoi

Brilliant. Screenshotted your post. Thank you.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

@zichi: more like a kick to the ballz.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

If Ghosn is found innocent, can the prosecutors be detained for a good long while?

5 ( +9 / -4 )

This guy must be such a danger to society that must he kept locked away. After all, he's getting more jail time than people who have committed murder, rape and extortion. And that's before they even found him guilty.

5 ( +9 / -4 )

it is medieval, before Montesquieu, incomplete separation of powers. I’m not sure if Ghosn misconducted Nissan’s fund illegally but I’m sure Japanese government is misconducting judiciary. Prosecutors and nissan allies should stop manipulating Japanese media to enhance racist speech. Most Japanese are racist, but they are unaware. Due to bad education and ignorant media, many of them don’t even know what racism is.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

This guilty until proven innocent system is not a good look for Japan.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

All that extended detentions requested by prosecutors just remind me about all these useless unending meetings with half of my colleagues sleeping with zero conclusion.

Go for a drink together, nothing move without nomunication in Japan.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

The Japanese justice system has shocked all the idealists among the Japanopphile (親 日 家) people around the world. Working with collaboration with some international groups, I met and often discusse with many japanophiles. The they recognize now two periods of consideration of Japan:

(1) a former period with a deep consideration and admiration of japan, before the special the treatment of detenees illustrated through a famous prisoner (Ghosn who seemly had a huge past against japanese interests).

(2) a new realistic period, everything what followed Ghosn arrest highlighting the applied practices of the japanese system on the detainees. It was like a mask of embellishment and cleanliness, has fallen to show the true face of Japan. The Japanopphile persons understand now how wrong they were.

After all, for the truth as higher goal, the Japanese persecutors shave helped every Japanopphile to become realistic and actualize their distinction (after all exaggerated) between Japan and the third world countries in terms of human justice.

0 ( +4 / -4 )

I think everyone is well aware of how the Japanese run their policing and justice system. Best to not come if you feel it is abhorrent.

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

That is what is decided by many persons I know,

they go to japan only if their job force them to do,

5 ( +7 / -2 )

pointofview...I feel it is abhorrent for the innocent Japanese who have to suffer under it. I don't know why you don't feel so as well.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

This is always the same story.

Prosecutors say they have bulletproof evidences but still need to forced confession.

They need to get out of the idea that a trial is a Disney Parade where they enjoy life celebrating victory.

5 ( +8 / -3 )

Yes, how very predictable.

But they can only extend his detention up to two times per allegation, right? That means they only have one more extension left after this one and then they'll have to let him go unless they find new allegations, which surely they've exhausted by now?

6 ( +7 / -1 )

if there is so much evidence that Ghosn is guilty as alleged by saikawa, nissan and the prosecution, why isn't this case scheduled to go to trial. why is Ghosn being incarcerated for questioning and a confession of guilt.

the reason is because there is NO evidence supporting the allegations against Ghosn.

the allegations are not CRIMINAL, the allegations are convoluted narratives of justifiable (and more likely than not, documented corporate records) corporate actions taken by an corporate officer in a public traded corporation.

nuf said... til the next Ghosn article

anybody care about what Kelly might be doing... hmmmmmmm

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@Uncle...

I suspect that the prosecutors have just no idea on how to manage a trial without a confession even though there might be somewhere bulletproof evidences.

Amateurs circus justice.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

He's still a million times richer than I am and will go back to a life exuberant luxury (that is if he doesn't wind up in jail).

It's not a question of how much money he has. It is a question of justice. Justice is for all, rich and poor alike (but obviously not in Japan).

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Unlike others, Japanese court has to follow orders.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

The prosecutors divided the charge to two sections, one for 2015-2018 and the other 2011-2015. So after this one, there's still one more set of 23 day detention. Again, utterly disgusting incompetency.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

I don't understand that more than half the people who have posted their comments above still seem to be supportive of Ghosn.  But I would hope to believe that there are very few people who do not think he has been very, very greedy.  Even if they find him not guilty at the end of his trial, which is a possibility,  what he did is absolutely inexcusable and he should be penalized accordingly.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

@Goodluckto you...Tepco is in court now, minus Shimazu. I agree with what you say, but you can’t let every single criminal off just because some get let off.

Agree with the second part of your statement 100%. As for the first part...TEPCO is in court, but their CEO is not in jail which is a glaring difference in the "justice" being carried out here.

@Yoshimi Onishi...agree that he has been very greedy. However, greed is not a crime. I don't support Ghosn at all, but I'm not against him either. I support a fair trial and will reserve judgement until all the facts are revealed.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

@buzzyboy,

I don't like it. I also stay out of trouble. They should change it.

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