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Fake Japanese-style artworks found in circulation after investigation

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If you buy an artwork because you like it, does it matter that it is "fake"?

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This is fraud.

The Japanese antiques valuation program on tv, Namdemo Kanteidan, often features fakes, especially kakejiku hanging scrolls, but the backstory is usually "someone gave me this in return for a favour". In the worse case, it is "someone gave me this in lieu of payment". It is never "I bought this from a dealer".

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It is never "I bought this from a dealer".

Yes it is! They often have people who bring stuff on the show that comes from someone who bought it from a dealer! Just about as many as people who give them in lieu of payment and more often than not determined to be fakes!

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Hang on! At the bottom of the article article it states they were prints. We’re they artworks or prints of artworks? Very fuzzy reporting, again.

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If you buy an artwork because you like it, does it matter that it is "fake"?

ask @zishi from Kobe. He is the only rich artist on this site. I personally think artists have a right to survive, but I have a Miro and Paul Klee print in my toilet.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Goodlucktoyou

If you buy an artwork because you like it, does it matter that it is "fake"?

ask @zishi from Kobe. He is the only rich artist on this site. I personally think artists have a right to survive, but I have a Miro and Paul Klee print in my toilet.

don't know where you got the “rich” from?

Many works of art are out of copyright, like da Vinci for instance. But any photos of his works, the copyright belongs to the photographer or museum. You can print a copy and put it on your walls.

Counterfeits are always illegal regardless of the copyright. Making a work then claiming it is an original. Reproductions are not illegal provided if there’s copyright they also have permission. I could copy and paint the Mona Lisa but I can’t sign it with the da Vinci signature.

when I lived in Nagano I discovered the great Nihonga artist Kaii Higashiyama, who also has a museum in the city. Enjoyed some correspondence with him.

I have appeared in books and some people buy them cut the pages out and frame for selling. But that isn’t illegal but could be a copyright infringement of the publisher.

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We’re they artworks or prints of artworks? 

My first understanding was that the original artworks were prints woodblock prints or hanga, a la Utamaro or Katsushika; but the artists mentioned are painters, not woodblock artists.

So yes, if it's a print it's obviously not an original painting......

The ????s remain.

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Better let a zoo elephant, a chimpanzee or your own kindergarten child make some strange ‘artworks’. The super riches don’t know where their millions to throw away to, therefore buy almost anything, considering it real sophisticated modern art with very deep and hidden meaning or even philosophical expression, and of course , if you’re caught anyway, you are surely on the safe side, as those are not forged originals. lol

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Limited edition lithograph prints like this one

https://www.oida-art.com/en/archives/works/higashiyama-kaii_road_1043

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Wow you mean to tell me it wasn't a Chinese knockoff?

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I know a Japanese guy up north who has about 15,000 of them. We made a few bucks together selling them to American antique dealers after I came home from JET.

I'm not sure if they were fugazis, but the money was real!

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%40+ of artwork in museums is misattributed to artists or forgeries.

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And they were crafted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? in ???????????????. China, Korea, Taiwan, Hon Kong. Or Osaka?

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The world of Fake business is far more complicated than the average consumer can comprehend, but in the end it does NOT matter as long as the customer is happy and does not care.

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The consumers were tricked into buying what they thought were original lithograph prints at high prices. They were tricked out of their money.

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I remember a documentary suggesting that about 90% of European art was fake one way or another. But no one wants to hear that...not the owner of the art, not the bank that took it as collateral on various loans, not the museum that proudly displays it. Everyone just ignores it and life goes on.

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