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Former Nissan exec Kelly released on bail; being examined in Ibaraki hospital

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Any Japanese executives been arrested and/or detained? Can't believe that these two non-Japanese are the only ones involved in this case.

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S****chopenhauerToday  08:26 am JST

"Reportedly, this obscure guy appeared at Nissan only a few days a year and most of his time, he was in the States........"

Putting supporting Kelly aside at this moment, I think your "obscure" comment shows you haven't really researched Kelly, his history and the modern circumstances of global business networks.

Kelly has worked for Nissan for 30 years and at senior executive level for many.

Yes, he lives in the states in Tennessee, where funnily enough, North America Nissan HQ is!!! And doubly funny is that Nissan's largest auto plant in the world (and largest of all plants in the US) is where - Tennessee!!!

Gee, I wonder why he spent so much time there? I mean he had Saikawa running shop in Japan as the Global Nissan CEO and Ghosn floating all over.

Obscure is hardly a convincing word to apply to Kelly.

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Any Japanese executives been arrested and/or detained? Can't believe that these two non-Japanese are the only ones involved in this case.

Not yet, even though "Nissan" has been implicated in the case, yet no one specifically. I totally agree with you that these two, by themselves, could not have pulled off all this without the express knowledge and compliance of others in the company.

There is a hell of a lot to this story that has not been told, as we have, for the most part, only been hearing about the police/prosecutors side of the allegations.

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It's looking like grumpy old men vs convienence store staff. We will release you on a payment of an eye watering amount of cash. But you can't talk about why you are in this position. Welcome to Japan where everyone can shine. Well done prosecutors your parents must be proud.

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"Hospitality Taxi". Nice touch.

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Under the conditions of his release, he is barred from leaving Japan or talking to people related to the case.

Not unusual, problem is will he talk to the press? I certainly hope so!

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Thelonius, “He's barred from talking to people related to the case. Does that include his lawyers?”

Are you asking that seriously? Why in the world would he be barred from talking to his lawyer? Not to mention this from the article: “He left the Tokyo Detention Centre with his lawyer, Yoichi Kitamura”

Barring suspects from talking to people connected to a case is nothing unusual. It’s to prevent witness tampering etc.

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If you really care about Japan, you must criticize it in order to improve it.

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He's barred from talking to people related to the case. Does that include his lawyers? Meanwhile, Nissan has ordered all employees to not talk to Ghosn or Kelly. Good luck building a defense now that the company has officially closed ranks against them. I suspect Kelly was arrested in hopes that he would take a plea and testify against Ghosn. I hope he doesn't go down that road.

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How about moving to a country with a justice system you like?

Well, gee, I was born here...

I've spent most of my life here....

How about Japan overhauling its justice system from something that still is largely written in the 1800s?!??

Any Japanese that blindly defends Japan reminds me of any nationalist that defends their own country, regardless...

In Japan, it makes them susceptible to the same idiocy that led to the BS that went on with Kenpeitai during WW2,

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Ghosn has enough grounds to suspect serious crimes. Why are you taking his side blindly?

I am not sure that Zones2Surf is taking his side blindly.

I'm not taking his side blindly either. But the Japanese justice system does deserve criticism because of holding suspects for remarkably long periods, allowing prosecutors to add new charges piece-by-piece only for extending detentions longer, and then force people to endure questioning for several hours a day without the aid of a lawyer.

Those are the sorts of things I would expect to see only in a third-world tin-pot dictatorship. Not in a country that's supposed to be free and advanced.

You asked Zones2Surf why he/she is taking Ghosn's side blindly. I don't see that he/she is. But why are you taking Japan's side blindly?

I love my native country (Germany) too, but I am certainly okay to criticize it if I think it is deserved. Do you really think that Japan's method to treat criminal defendants is fair, or ethical, or in line with modern civilized standards? In any objective standard you shouldn't, and it doesn't mean you don't love your country if you say so.

In fact, if people really love their country, they should desire to improve on its problems and weak points. They should want to make the place better. Just as a parent who really loves a child wants the child to grow and learn and improve.

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Its looking more and more like the whole thing is an awful misunderstanding, probably because english-japanese doesn't translate very easily for old men.

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Think if he wrote a letter apologiesing for causing so much confusion and promise not to talk about the abhorrent justice system he was sucked into...he could walk away. Get to a normal country get medical treatment and cause havoc for Nissan, justice system and the government.

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70 million yen -- in cash!?!?

I'm wondering about the logistics and security.

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"Kelly was arrested after his car was stopped on the expressway..."

Jeez, the more details get to be known, the more interesting it becomes.

This concertation of events really starts to make good material for a TV drama or movie.

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nice company

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as a Tokyo court rejected prosecutors' request to keep the American executive in custody.

Well, gee, there is a surprise!

The prosecutors wanted to keep him in custody!

"Your honor, we need to keep him in custody because we haven't yet coerced a confession from him yet! C'mon, give us a few more days!!!"

I hate the Japanese justice system.

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Kelly was scheduled to have surgery on Dec 7 in Nashville, Tennessee, but flew to Japan last month after being told that he was needed in person at a board meeting, Dee Kelly said in the video. Kelly was arrested after his car was stopped on the expressway soon after his arrival.

Wow, just like copied straight out from a drama script. Someone in Nissan Japan is plotting a revolt then tricked Ghosn and Kelly to attend a meeting and pre-arranged the police to arrest them upon arrival in Japan, because he knows he can’t do anything to Ghosn when he is abroad. Did they bribe the politicians and police to take such swift actions? I won’t be buying Nissan for sure with such shady figure leading them.

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I am very pleased to see the Tokyo court focused on doing their job and releasing Mr. Kelly. Holding a person suffering from medical condition is a very important human rights issue.

These problems with Nissan provides an opportunity to discuss the different cultural issues / tactics in business (and elsewhere). This story is very good learning process for the country -- especially business.

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Kelly said...

Or rather, Kelly's statements were back-translated into English as...

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Ah, it was saikawa that was running the show, at Nissan Japan ???. Talk abt the grave-digger that was at the grave all the time. No wonder everyone at Nissan got brain-washed by saikawa. But now, it looks like saikawa dug his own grave and buried himself as well. I hope that Nissan stays away from him before all hell breaks out for Nissan , more bankruptcies, more job losses, more sales falling not to mention the price of yr stocks ???.Kelly, pls have a good rest , re-charge and attack. We are waiting for U & Carlos.

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Boohoo Nissan, needed foreign managers to stay afloat now do a Kamakazi on those managers who saved the company, with the legal system and government backing. Falling on your sword on a massive scale.

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A Christmas miracle. Nice for his family.

Now, how's he going to get his spinal surgery if he's not allowed to leave the country?

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Thelonius, “He's barred from talking to people related to the case. Does that include his lawyers?”

Are you asking that seriously? Why in the world would he be barred from talking to his lawyer? 

I think Thelonius means, "Does that mean his lawyer can't talk to other people related to the case?"

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Keeping a sick man in detention for political and financial gain....Japan’s reputation like the rest of the country is heading for the slippery slope....downwards!

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Nissan top execs at their bonenkai end of year party grumbling to one another over their sake..."How dare a foreigner call us dishonorable! We're not dishonorable. Are we dishonorable? 'Oi..... izakaiya waitress....Are we dishonorable?' No, this is Japan-bashing! The world is against us for some reason, just like they're against North Kor......oh, never mind.....". !

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Another weird and eerie resemblanace with Nissan pushing away Renault using these men as scapegoats, would be VW and the Suzuki case: https://www.autonews.com/article/20150803/OEM/308039944/how-the-vw-suzuki-alliance-went-wrong

Sounds similar? yet the old guard of a fallen Japanese company wants to push its shareholder away

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"The company's own investigation manufactured substantial and convincing evidence of misconduct, 

Fixed

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Congratulations, Kelly. Pls help Carlos get out too. Pls do not be tricked by bad Japanese in Nissan.

Pls remember, saikawa back-stabbed U & Carlos. Pls never forget that. We good people are waiting for

U & Carlos to restore yr honour and our faith in foreign executives. Pls fight on. Now the real fight starts on yr part. Never have fear, fight for yr family, yr honour & yrself. Good Japanese are with U & Carlos. Down with saikawa & gang.

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Nissan, Kobe Steel, Mitsubishi, Takata, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. Greedy morons-executives from lots of Japanese companies are competing in last several years who will commit more fraud!!! What is going on in Japan in last 7 years? Maybe these greedy stupid executives think if Abe and his government gang are allowed to do fraud and be dishonest, that means is fine for executives as well to do the same?! Very few companies like Toyota, Panasonic seem to be not involved in this type of competition... Japanese slaves, working till dying for these greedy bosses, it's time to stop being naive and polite, stand up and get rid of such trash!!!

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Kelly was scheduled to have surgery on Dec 7 in Nashville, Tennessee, but flew to Japan last month after being told that he was needed in person at a board meeting, Dee Kelly said in the video. Kelly was arrested after his car was stopped on the expressway soon after his arrival.

Unconscionable dialled to 11. Nissan/Shikawa would have known he was scheduled for surgery but it was more important to put him in detention. That's pretty sick

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Kelly was arrested after his car was stopped on the expressway soon after his arrival.

wow! just like the movies!

couldn't they have just arrested him at the airport? or at his destination?

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Not yet, even though "Nissan" has been implicated in the case

It has been explicitly stated in numerous Japanese language reports and a few English language reports that Nissan (the corporation) has been explicitly charged. Some Japanese language commentators have been speculating about the size of the potential monetary penalty.

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is it because he is american?

Maybe it was pointed out what could happen to the numerous Japanese executives who were caught in scams (Takata airbags, Kobe Steel, etc) if they travel to the US: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/volkswagen-manager-jailed-7-years-diesel-scam-n827286

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Is there a website that’ll help you come up with and finance your bail? Most people have money invested and liquidation takes a while.

What would you do if you had to come up with $200,000 bail?

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In fact, if people really love their country, they should desire to improve on its problems and weak points.

Statement of the year.

Well said.

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Hopefully Kelly is flying in his own doctor and/or the US military is providing medical assistance rather than Japanese doctors who would just as soon slit a patient’s throat if so instructed by Japanese secret police.. sorry I mean Japanese prosecutors. All the more disturbing is the silence of the US Embassy and State Department in this matter- I hope they are acting behind the scenes though thus far does not look like they have accomplished anything.

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In fact, if people really love their country, they should desire to improve on its problems and weak points.

Who doesn't?

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is it because he is american? hope ghosn receive the same fairness.

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will he talk to the press?

I don't think he's that dumb.

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These people took more remuneration from Nissan than Renault and paid less money to Japanese employees than to Renault employees.  And they used only Nissan money for suspicious money transactions thru a paper company.  Nissan employees are very angry at them with good reason.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

70 million yen -- in cash!?!?  I'm wondering about the logistics and security.

Cash includes bank transfer, not only as bail but also as common sense.

-11 ( +3 / -14 )

Reportedly, this obscure guy appeared at Nissan only a few days a year and most of his time, he was in the States. Yet, he received a lot of money from Nissan as an executive and a friend of Ghosn. I can easily imagine Japanese executives had antipathy to the Ghosn regime. Ghosn did a great job first half of tenure but Nissan workers today are new generations.

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