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Ghosn vows to restore his honor in court, lawyer says

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Good luck getting that crossed over into Japan.

Even if you’re squeaky clean it’ll get lost in translation in the local press.

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Ghosn’s release means that he didn’t ‘confess’ to anything!

Let the state produce evidence in court of wrongdoing so the whole world can see what a charade his imprisonment has been.........

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At least by now the whole world will be watching Japanese corporate and also Japanese justice system. Before Ghosn only Michael Woodfood (Olympus), Michael have done good job but still there are plenty things is hidden beneath.

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Well it won't be 99.99% confession rate then

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I hope the prosecutor get their ass handed to them for arresting this guy without suitable evidence. The prosecutor has tarnished Japan's legal system.

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Ghosn wants to hold a news conference after he is released, NHK quoted his lawyer as saying.

I wonder if what he says is going to be moderated and what news agencies from outside of Japan will be allowed to attend..

A Tokyo court on Thursday unexpectedly rejected prosecutors' request to extend Ghosn's detention, which Japanese media said means he could go free on bail as early as Friday.

While it was unexpected, it is not surprising because-

The Ghosn case has put Japan's criminal justice system under international scrutiny and sparked criticism for some of its practices, including keeping suspects in detention for long periods and prohibiting defense lawyers from being present during interrogations, which can last eight hours a day.

I hope the prosecutor get their ass handed to them for arresting this guy without suitable evidence.

So do I. Along with that snake Saikawa

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He has not been found guilty of any wrongdoing yet so as far as I am concerned, (and the Japanese constitution is concerned) he is innocent, and his honour still intact.

The question is : is the honour of Nissan intact?

The honour of Japanese rule of law isn't very intact up to now.

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This is going to get very messy for the "Justice" system. No confession no case? A very archaic system of "justice" if he weighs as much as a duck, then he floats therefore he is simulular to wood, and what do we do with wood? Burn it...he's a witch...burn him. Case closed. Questions were being asked about the prosecutors motives, methods government involvement. It appears to be a mad scramble to shut it down. Not a well thought out plan at all.

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Things as they stand are absolutely unacceptable," Ghosn was quoted as saying via his lawyer. "I want to have my position heard and restore my honor in court."

Oh no....Saikawa and gang are sweating bullets now...how ' extremely regrettable' the court rejection must be.

Lets hear Carlos version of the story now.

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Go Carlos go get that snake Saikawa and the other Oyajis that set you up...

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The prosecutors have basically proven themselves to be incompetent. Even the district court has ordered Ghosn released, refusing to go along with this sham any longer.

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When you come down to it.... Japanese courts are pretty fair, the biggest hurdle is not confessing to something you didn't actually do while in detention beforehand.

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I planned to get that new Nissan nsx 2019 for sunday ride, guess i'll just boycote 'em

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If Ghosn fights back, Nissan will be in trouble.

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Wait til Ghosn and Kelly file their lawsuit against Nissan.

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If Ghosn fights back, Nissan will be in trouble.

I'm done with Nissan for sure, no matter how good quality may be. (Japanese quality is becoming questionable anyway).

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The legal case against Ghosn is going to get very interesting, as I am sure Ghosn will pull no punches against Saikawa.

What is going to be equally interesting is how Renault approaches this as Nissan's nearly majority shareholder, particularly if they believe Ghosn was hung out to dry to weaken Renault's grip on Nissan. All they have to do is team up with some institutional investors and shareholder meetings will get VERY interesting!!

If I were a movie producer, I'd be working on obtaining the rights to this story from Ghosn himself!!!

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He will be released on bail of just a billion even though he earned (embezzled ) over 9 billion per year ?

Isn't that too little ?

He didn't even donate or something.

He should be made paid much more.

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He'll be heading straight to Nissan HQ in Yokohama to open up a can of whooparse.

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Ghosn is back. It sounds like Empire Strikes Back.

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I think in the future, people will say "definitely not Japans finest hour".

The days of "kawai desu ne" have gone, and hopefully that boring old chestnut "this is Japan" will diminish.

The worst side of Japan is now displaying itself all over the world.

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I think what happened is that they thought they could arrest Ghosn on some BS charge, fire him from Nissan and hope that either he can be forced into confession or Renault abandons Ghosn. They keep Ghosn in jail and keep meeting and pleading with Renault to "move forward". Neither of the plans have worked and have only attracted negative attention, and the fact that they're letting him out after Saikawa's last-ditch effort to meet with Renault which accomplished nothing means that they realize that their coop has failed and they've lost most of their allies. Even Mitsubishi is distancing themselves from this trainwreck saying they didn't think Ghosn didn anything wrong. It wouldn't surprise me that after this nonsense Nissan's stock and influence goes straight into the toilet and becomes vulnerable to an outright buyout from Renault giving Ghosn even more power, how ironic that would be.

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Ahhh guys, hiccup, Carlos Ghosn is not out yet. They will work hard to never let him out because this is meant to be a one-sided story. If....and only if, he gets out, he would need to maintain his control in Renault to stick it to Nissan. I believe this is what Nissan fears the most.

He achieved his success because he knows the business.

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The understatement of his remunerations for 5+3 years looks like to be a big charge against Ghosn for prosecutors but there are other charges of embezzlements/misappropriations of Nissan funds against him. He spent billions of dollars/yen for personal purposes like dictator in some countries. This seems to be another big charge against him. It seems prosecutors already found out more wrongdoings besides understatement in case.

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Who do you think will play Carlos G in the blockbuster Hollywood move coming to a theatre near you this summer?!

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From a consumer's perspective - If Nissan can risk throwing all this $#%T on the fan, then they also take the same risks to their products and services, at which point, they lose customers.  Their stock value will plummet and drive the business down - That is not what businessmen do. There must be something more happening here - or it is just plain incompetent leadership.

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The Ghosn case has put Japan's criminal justice system under international scrutiny and sparked criticism for some of its practices, including keeping suspects in detention for long periods and prohibiting defense lawyers from being present during interrogations, which can last eight hours a day.

This is why the prosecutors want to keep them in jail. The don't want the world to know about the Japanese injustice system. The international media are gonna have a field day tearing strips off Japan's unfair treatment of suspects.

@Madden - I think what happened is that they thought they could arrest Ghosn on some BS charge, fire him from Nissan and hope that either he can be forced into confession or Renault abandons Ghosn. 

There will be no alliance between Nissan and Renault without Ghosn. In fact, I doubt if there will be a Nissan within five years without Ghosn because they have the same stone-headed twits running the company that ran it into the ground in the first place. This is the end for Nissan.

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Even if you’re squeaky clean it’ll get lost in translation in the local press.

Evidence for that claim? Please show me with Japanese/English citations an example of this. I have seen numerous examples of the English language press distorting what was said in Japanese but I cannot recall any examples in the other direction.

From time to time I attend press conferences at the Foreign Correspondents Club Japan. The translation there is horrendously bad but that is the responsibility of the foreign nationals who run the Club.

 Michael Woodfood (Olympus), Michael have done good job but still there are plenty things is hidden beneath.

The Olympus accounting fraud was outed by a Japanese investigative journalist and the Japanese muckraking magazine FACTA, not by Woodford.

https://facta.co.jp/

Woodford got the publicity. It was FACTA that dug up the dirt.

Well it won't be 99.99% confession rate then.

There is no 99.99% confession rate in Japan. This is a claim usually made about the conviction rate.

US federal courts have the same high conviction rates as Japan.

http://justicedenied.org/wordpress/archives/3190

It is the US that has a high confession rate. 95% of all criminal cases in the US involve plea bargains. That means you confess to a lesser crime to avoid having a trial that might lead to a longer sentence.

In Japan police and prosecturs tend to drop cases that they regard as too difficult or those that will result in acquittal. Several examples of this have in fact been reported in Japan Today.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/devils-bargain-how-plea-agreements-never-contemplated-framers-undermine-justice

As a Japanese citizen, I think the system needs to be reformed and the power of prosecutors needs to be curtailed but that is not a good reason for making false claims either absolute or comparative about the system.

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I think this is a pretty interesting article that describes what was going on. NO fake news, by the way!!

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ghosn-planned-to-replace-nissan-ceo-before-arrest-2018-12-09

Go for it Ghosn and show 'em that you're the man!!

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Time to change the company name back to Datsun!

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I bet you some high up guy talked to some top cops who suppossedly “knew”’how gaijins cracked and thus were handed the alien task of dealing with it.

Well too bad Ghosn isn’t your average foreigner here.

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"Ghosn vows to restore his honor in court." I do not think he will get any support from Japanese people. His income is astronomical for Japanese people.

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Oh, It seems trial would take many years until district, high, supreme court judges decide. Ghosn would be under house arrest for years, maybe he cant go overseas.

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Michael

Even by the current dire standards of Hollywood, this wouldn't make much of a movie.

But if they did make one I vote for Danny De Vito in the lead and Jet Li as lead oyaji......

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@bullfighter,

kinda sorta agree on your support for the japanese justice system point, that is they want 100% proof and guilt before an acquittal or arrest, but the problem with Ghosn and other foreigner suspects, is the fact they are gaijin. This unspoken truth about Japan makes it very difficult to get a fair trial as they system is biased against you from day one for any criminal matter. I believe this is what Ghosn is experiencing now, but due to his competent and expensive lawyers, he can fight the good fight. The rest of us just get worn down and finally submit.

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SchopenhauerToday  10:00 am JST "Ghosn vows to restore his honor in court." I do not think he will get any support from Japanese people. His income is astronomical for Japanese people.

So ??? Is that one reason to think that he is guilty ???? Geez

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Michael MachidaToday  09:38 am JST

Who do you think will play Carlos G in the blockbuster Hollywood move coming to a theatre near you this summer?!

Rowan Atkinson: his mug fits.

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 I do not think he will get any support from Japanese people. His income is astronomical for Japanese people.

Not just the Japanese people. The French government and Renault thought he was getting paid too much. The Wall Street Journal reported in February of this year that Ghosn had agreed to a pay cut in order to get two more years at Renault.

The French economic minister said Ghosn’s total pay cut was 30%; move comes after the government criticized his pay package

https://www.wsj.com/articles/carlos-ghosn-takes-sharp-pay-cut-to-stay-at-renault-1518792794

The French political tradition is overall much to the left of Japan. French trade unions are very left-wing, even communist. He might get some sympathy in France as a French national singled out by the Japanese but he won't get sympathy for his rockstar life style. His 2016 wedding ceremony at Versailles was ostentatious even by the standards of rockstars and European royalty.

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Ghosn damn Saikawa!

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And the charge legally? Other than having too much cash? and lack of style?

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The executive, who formed a carmaking alliance among Nissan, Mitsubishi Motors Corp and France's Renault SA, said he is not a flight risk and wants to be able to travel abroad

Umm... isn't that the definition of a "flight risk". If he travels abroad what's to make sure he's going to come back?

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Guess who got re-arrested! That's right! Mr. Ghosn!

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He ain't going anywhere. He was rearrested minutes ago.

号外:日産自動車のカルロス・ゴーン前会長を東京地検特捜部が会社法違反容疑で再逮捕

Actually, this is a good development. It looks like there is a split between the court that said enough is enough and the prosecutors who don't know when to give it a rest.

This is also good for the groups in Japan that have been calling for reform. When Japanese get caught up in the system, the media loses interest after the first few days. Foreign media will keep some interest and Japanese media will report what the foreign media is saying.

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Don’t think he’ll be getting out today. He’s been arrested on other charges.

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The guy is guilty. He will run away. He has Lebanon, Brazil and EU passports. He also stole $50,000,000 and counting from Japanese citizens.

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The entire system needs to be reformed. From the criminal law side, family law side, etc. These so-called lawyers are suppose to advocate for equal rights and human rights for all under the Attorney Act. Looking at Ghosn’s and Kelly’s situation - obviously they don’t. Speak Carlos Ghosn - Speak! This a man who saved Nissan and Sony to be truthful. Hence, Japan Inc. Instead the throw the man in detention. Unfortunately, he is not the first one, however.,

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Michael MachidaToday 09:38 am JST

Who do you think will play Carlos G in the blockbuster Hollywood move coming to a theatre near you this summer?!

Well, I actually thought about then when I commented on the idea that some movie producer should be looking to buy the rights to this story from Ghosn.

Some possiblities:

-- Tony Shalhoub (the "Monk" actor): Could actually be believable in terms of age, ethnicity, etc.

-- Josh Brolin: a little rugged but about the right age and sort of Hollywood-izes Ghosn.

And then, of course, the over-the-top Hollywood version:

-- Liam Neeson: doing what Liam Neeson always does!!

:-)

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He also stole $50,000,000 and counting from Japanese citizens.

so you know his lawyers, do your know the prosecutors, or did you just get your facts from the J media. LOL

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bullfighter said

"...Woodford got the publicity. It was FACTA that dug up the dirt...."

That's true - thank god for some semblance of investigative journalism kicking in Japan.

But Woodford publicly acknowledged that fact, and even thanked the FACTA journalists.

He never tried to take all of the credit.

And on the article, there will be no winners in all of this. Ghosn will lose Position, Prestige, Money and Time (jail???), As will Kelly and also probably his health. The Nissan Drones - Saikawa et al - will always be considered ex- from now on and may also lose all of the above. Nissan - Renault alliance will be lost as the formidable force it had become and could have continued in the cut throat world of auto manufacturing, where the future is only Alliance. Nissan has lost and will continue to lose it's "badge of honour" , power and respect in World Auto Inc. Japan's judicial system is under heavy international scrutiny for it's heavy handedness, and Japan Inc's corporate methodology takes another pain pill.

The future of World Manufacturing is not following the Galapagos model. Companies such as Nissan will be seen as Global companies - not Japanese companies - something which hasn't quite hit here yet in the minds of many.

This Ghosn / Nissan journey hasn't even left port yet. Lots of excitement for us simple bystanders to chuckle at yet.

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He ain't going anywhere. He was rearrested minutes ago.

号外:日産自動車のカルロス・ゴーン前会長を東京地検特捜部が会社法違反容疑で再逮捕

What a farce this has become. The prosecutors are clearly abusing their power, and Japanese citizens need to demand change. Enough is enough.

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There is no way he is going to receive a fair trial. The fix is in.

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I asked many Japanese nationals if they think Mr. G is guilty. Every Japanese national I asked said Yes.

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And that is before any court case.

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