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Japanese man killed in stabbing spree in Ireland

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Very sad. A very out of the way place - last place you would expect this type of thing.

Terrorism has not been confirmed or discounted at this stage, so we should avoid jumping to conclusions, but Ireland has had a lot of recent arrivals from troubled and war torn countries recently and inevitably young men bring a degree of crime and disorder with them.

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We shouldn’t jump to conclusions. There’s a 1% chance the perpetrator was an Egyptian Christian.

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Very sad. A very out of the way place - last place you would expect this type of thing.

How quickly people forget. sadly Ireland is not the "last place" to expect this type of crime.

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A very out of the way place

Not so out of the way if you're traveling between the UK and Ireland.

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Very sad. A very out of the way place - last place you would expect this type of thing.

Seriously? The UK/ROI border has been subject to many terrorist attacks.

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The UK/ROI border has been subject to many terrorist attacks.

Hence my comment, and it's not just the relatively recent Islamic related terrorism. There is a long history of violence and terrorism in Ireland.

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The arrested man has been described as being of Egyptian nationality. If this is so, there is a strong chance that he is an adherent of Islam. It would not be the first time that a non-Muslim has been murdered on a street in the UK. Lee Rigby, butchered to death in Greenwich,London,in 2013,springs to mind.

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RIP young man.

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Oh please. Every crime nowadays is considered terrorism.

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It would not be the first time that a non-Muslim has been murdered on a street in the UK.

Quite a few people have been killed in the streets of the UK in terrorist attacks. The key distinction is that this happened in the Republic of Ireland - a separate country.

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Seriously? The UK/ROI border has been subject to many terrorist attacks.

As far as I'm aware, we do not know know yet whether this was a religiouslyinspired terrorist attack, although it is likely that the attacker was a Muslim.

Regardless of that, just because the border experienced a lot of violence during the troubles, it is not the sort of place where you would today expect a multiple stabbing incident of this nature.

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as an Irish in Japan I am very sorry to hear this news.Deepest condolences to the Japanese man's family.Some of the above comments are bizarre if not ignorant.

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The arrested man has been described as being of Egyptian nationality. If this is so, there is a strong chance that he is an adherent of Islam. It would not be the first time that a non-Muslim has been murdered on a street in the UK. Lee Rigby, butchered to death in Greenwich,London,in 2013,springs to mind.

Except this muder took place in the Republic of Ireland, not the UK. Different country.

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Regardless of that, just because the border experienced a lot of violence during the troubles, it is not the sort of place where you would today expect a multiple stabbing incident of this nature.

Why not? You been there?

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Stabbed in the back, what a cowardly act.

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Dundalk can be an edgy place - I did think this was going to be about Limerick, mind.

It would not be the first time that a non-Muslim has been murdered on a street in the UK.

I was not aware Dundalk had reverted back to the UK. Best let the strongly nationalist community there know. They might have a thing or two to say about that.

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Who thought it would be a good idea to allow an 18 year old single and unemployed Egyptian migrant to freely walk the streets of Europe like this? This is a case of negligent homicide by the politicians in my opinion. We really should be holding all asylum seekers in detention centres until their asylum claims are either verified or rejected. Even if accepted, they should be resettled in 3rd countries which are more compatible with their native language, religion and cuture. We have countless studies showing that migration to a radically foreign culture is a trigger for schizophrenia and other mental illnesses. The international refugee protection system is in desperate need of an overhaul for the 21st century.

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Who thought it would be a good idea to allow an 18 year old single and unemployed Egyptian migrant to freely walk the streets of Europe like this?

Yeah, unemployment has always been a problem in the ROI, as has the carrying of knives in certain areas. Ireland has plenty of immigrants and refugees who settled in just fine.

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Ireland has plenty of immigrants and refugees who settled in just fine.

That's probably because Ireland is protected from the most dubious asylum seekers by the Dublin convention (which allows them to immediately deport all asylum seekers to the first country they entered the EU through) and by not being part of the borderless Schengen area. The vast majority of asylum seekers in Ireland are either those who have been living in Ireland prior to making their claim, or those few elite individuals who are granted a visa and can afford to fly directly into Ireland from outside of the EU. You cannot trumpet open borders and 'refugees welcome' for others while knowing that you can always retreat to the safety of fortress Ireland.

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 Ireland is protected from the most dubious asylum seekers by the Dublin convention.

"Protected"? Ask the Hungarians about hat. The last I heard about the "Dublin convention" was when Merkel ripped it up, angering and worrying her smaller neighbors to the east (1938 redux). The Euro chiefs and the "bring em all in" crowd disregard rules and laws whenever it suits them.

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The sheer stupidity and mentally ill leftist has in fact been destroying Europe by replacing its population with Islamist instead of making their countries more family friendly.

How can Islam be compatible with the west? Example, Turkey's top state religious institution has issued a new fatwa on marriage announcing that girls can get married and become pregnant as young as 9 years old.

Now occurrences like this tragic story are so common that it isn't even really news, merely a daily announcement.

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Dundalk is actually "out of the way", It is a very small town

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How can Islam be compatible with the west?

There's been Muslims living in the Republic since the 60s. The majority came over from South Africa and integrated just fine.

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Everyone knows one sought independence while the other is seeking the same domination they enjoy in the UK

The IRA were seeking a Marxist state, this led to factions within the organisation. Their links with Muslim countries go back decades. Libya supplied the IRA with guns and the political wing (now independent of the paramilitaries) Sinn Fein, supported and continue to support a Palestinian state.

Doesn't fit quite as well with the narrative you suggest.

Ireland has known violence going back 800 years. It's much more complex than some of the comments here.

The death of this poor man could happen in any country. He could have just as well been the victim of racism, which is not rare in the Republic.

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I don't want to turn the perpetrator into a victim here, but let's not forget that this young man's life has now also been utterly destroyed thanks to the open borders folks. He could have had a normal life and been a productive member of his own society, but instead he was probably seduced by the promises of a supposedly better lifestyle in Europe and the unique opportunity to take it before the borders close. When those utopian promises turned out to be false and he discovered that the streets aren't exactly paved with gold, I wouldn't be surprised if he went crazy.

I think the far more moral thing to do is not to allow these people to enter Europe, but to help them self-actualize and reach their full potential within their own societies. Nobody's first choice is to abandon their homeland, friends and family. It's usually a last resort which people would prefer to avoid. Unfortunately, the most educated and wealthy are usually the first to flee (and welcomed with open arms in the west), but this only condemns their societies and those left behind to further decay and underdevelopment. I think the open borders advocates cause more human misery than they alleviate and they have alot to answer for.

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Nobody's first choice is to abandon their homeland, friends and family. It's usually a last resort which people would prefer to avoid. 

Nobody's? A very high percentage of those who read this site have left their homeland, friends and family behind to move to Japan and done so willingly.

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Ah_so

I don't disagree with you but I think you are misinterpreting what I wrote. I said that it was nobody's first choice to abandon their homeland, friends and family. No more, no less. It has nothing to do with willingness to relocate for eclectic reasons.

I'm in Japan, I'm here willingly, but it certainly wasn't my first choice when I was a young person, nor have I abandoned my home country, old friends or family. Asylum seekers and refugees cannot just hop on a plane and return home for a visit, or else their claims will be rejected (They are supposed to be persecuted by their own government right?).

I'm fairly sure that coming to Japan was also not your first choice either (if you are not Japanese). As a child, didn't you imagine yourself being an astronaut, a bus driver or whatever in your hometown long before you even knew what Japan was? Most people imagine themeselves building a life where they currently live. That's just human nature. Only when this is not possible do people begin to look beyond their own borders to what is being offered elsewhere.

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Ireland is a great place. Don't be put off by this tragedy. It's not all doom and gloom in the greatest country in the known universe.

Did you know Ireland's only American Football team are based in Dundalk?

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Rest in peace to this young man. Incredidbly sad and I hope that scum never sees daylight again. I hope that his family receive as much support as possible. Glad the police caugh this guy before any more lives were lost. I hope this does not put people off Ireland because things like this are extremely rare. What a coward to randomly stab someone in the back. I hope he gets beaten to a pulp in prison.

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The death of this poor man could happen in any country.

The likelihood of it happening in our country, Japan, is drastically lower. That's because the govt the population are bascially in agreement that offering asylum to large numbers of young men from North Africa and the Middle East is a really, really bad idea.

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The likelihood of it happening in our country, Japan, is drastically lower.

That may depend on what you mean by "it". A religiously motivated attack, an attack by a deranged individual, and attack by a foreign national, or something else? Ireland's murder rate is higher than Japan's, but not drastically so.

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The first of this type of attack in Ireland. I don't think any motive has been established as yet. It appears random, and sad that any person died.

Those that say Ireland doesn't have many stabbing attacks or assaults is talking rubbish. There have been a lot of stabbing incidents all over the country over the Christmas and New Year period. Ireland is a violent place.

Someone commented that the IRA wanted a Marxist state, wrong. The IRA fought to remove the British presence in Ireland and set up a 32 county Republic.

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Ireland is a great place. Don't be put off by this tragedy.

True. I have family and friends there, always wonderful to visit.

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Toasted Heretic - that picture above looks pretty gloomy and doomy. This might not have happened had this person lived in Los Angeles, which is less gloomy and doomy.

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Murdered man named in the Irish press as Yosuke Sasaki.

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