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Man arrested for stabbing officer denies charge; carries mental disability certificate

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GaleToday  09:14 am JST

“What kind of father grasses up/narcs on their own son?“

One with a sense of responsibility and of concern for the safety of the public.

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Praise to the father for alerting the police that the suspect in the video that was released looked like the son.

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praise his dad. Can’t imagine how hard it was for him to call a police.

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Good Job!

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It must have been very difficult for the Father to do as it was Fathers Day. Japan is very good at self policing and maybe a 100% of Japanese Dads would have done the same!!

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They are saying he was arrested in Minoh with gun.

Nice work!

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What kind of father grasses up/narcs on their own son?

Someone who isn't an enabler, and actually doesn't want anyone in their family to end up in prison for much much worse?

At some point you have to know when to do the RIGHT thing, and not support the WRONG thing. The father did the RIGHT thing regardless. What if his son wasn't turned in and decided to just go around murdering random people or something else? The father stopped anything further from happening because of not supporting his son's crime.

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Denies the charge but has the officer's gun in his possession, good luck with that at trial.

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who said the suspect shown in surveillance camera footage, released by police, appeared to be his son

thanks Dad!

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praise his dad. Can’t imagine how hard it was for him to call a police.

Probably easier than eventually having to kill him like that other recent incident.

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They found a medical card on him indicating that he has psychiatric problems. This could be why his father told the police of his suspicions.

Re the form of 'denial'. He is said to have declared, "Not me. It wasn't me that did it. It was my illness."

Taken from this article, in Japanese:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20190617-00000027-mai-soci

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Great news. Glad they caught him, but only 4 bullets found means if there are traces of gunpowder on the gun, he might have used the it?

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All officers are proficient in judo which is more than capable of handling a drunk salary man on a friday night. 

HA! That made my day!

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While his actions can never be excused, it is understandable as to why this incident happened.

When on earth will Japan start to take mental illness seriously? It isn’t something that can just be ignored. It isn’t enough to just expect people to deal with it themselves - or for families to deal with the burden.

There appears to be a staggering amount of mental health issues in Japan and I still don’t see a serious attempt to deal with it.

If it continues to be ignored then every so often things like this (and the stabbing a few weeks ago etc.) will happen.

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And the correct answer is........a father with a good sense of responsibility who has a concern for the safety of the public and who isn't an enabler. ;)

Thank you to those who took part in the mini quiz.

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With gun crime at the level it is in Japan, can someone tell me why the police need to carry guns? All officers are proficient in judo which is more than capable of handling a drunk salary man on a friday night. The yakuza are scared to discharge a firearm in public for fear their boss will be arrested. I could possibly see the need for armed response vehicles on roaving patrols in big cities, but small towns in rural Japan, really!

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Both the perp and cop are victims. There is no excuse for what the assailant did but this once again highlights the need for more mental health services in Japan. What is causing such alienation, loneliness and disillusionment - not just here but across the globe?

Talk to people. And that doesn't mean online arguing.

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Iimori was quoted by police as saying, "It wasn't I who did this. It was because of my illness." He carried a mental disability certificate, investigators said.

If he was on anti-depressants (SSRIs) which were poorly prescribed to his condition then there is every possibility that what he says is true, "It wasn't I who did this. It was because of my illness". Perhaps if he was more conscious of his state of mind and receiving proper treatment then it's less likely he would have carried out the attack. But that's just an opinion.

I don't know what Iimori's story is or what kind of support he had, but based on my limited experience -- I used to live with someone who was as crazy as a box of frogs -- materialism in all its forms is a major cause of the madness seen in the news. Some people just don't cope very well and once they lose it they lose it. Being born into the system to believe from birth that those with a good position or with the most stuff are the winners doesn't help. These kinds of crimes will continue until there is a fundamental change in how society operates. Everything is based on scarcity (the financial system) and self image, it's not healthy.

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keep your head up, eyes open and watch out for the lunatics.

It could happen to any one of us. Demonising mentally ill people doesn't help much.

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I don't know if it applies in this case but ...

Antidepressants increase the risk of suicide, violence and homicide at all ages

The FDA admitted in 2007 that SSRIs can cause madness at all ages and that the drugs are very dangerous; otherwise daily monitoring wouldn’t be needed: “Families and caregivers of patients should be advised to look for the emergence of such symptoms on a day-to-day basis, since changes may be abrupt” ... “All patients being treated with antidepressants for any indication should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, and unusual changes in behavior, especially during the initial few months of a course of drug therapy, or at times of dose changes, either increases or decreases. The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants” (1).

Such daily monitoring is, however, a fake fix. People cannot be monitored every minute and many have committed SSRI-induced suicide or homicide within a few hours after everyone thought they were perfectly okay.

https://www.bmj.com/content/358/bmj.j3697/rr-4

But there is hope ...

Magic mushrooms could replace antidepressants within five years, says new psychedelic research centre

‘People on antidepressants long-term say they feel blunted, with psychedelic therapy it’s the opposite, they talk about an emotional release, a reconnection’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/magic-mushroom-depression-psychedelic-drug-mental-health-antidepressant-big-pharma-imperial-lsd-dmt-a8929796.html

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All modern societies are facing a crisis in mental health care because they are not providing the resources needed to handle the increasing number of citizens who are unable to cope with the stress and pressures of 21st century capitalism. The response of the Japanese government in particular has always been inadequate wishing away the weak and vulnerable members of society with a policy of sweeping all unpleasantness under the carpet (黙殺), mokusatsu -killing with silence which has resulted in real fatalities in a spate of recent incidents.

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So, they have found a mental disability card on him. It would seem this loon should have been in an institution.

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I don't see how mental health is a defense here. There is strong evidence of premeditation (bogus 110 calls, buying knife, stalking the koban), an attemp to concele his crime (changing his clothes at kitasenri) and finally his immediate claim that "it was the disease." The point is whether he belongs in society or not. If not, let him live his life inside a secure facility with no sharp objects...

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Of course he has denied it! It was an accident. The officer fell on the knife multiple times and the gun just fell into his bag. Do they not have security cameras inside cop shops? They seem to have them everywhere else.

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PS, for those who read Japanese: 「私がやったことではない。病気がひどくなったせいだ」などと供述している。Watashi ga yatta koto de wa nai. Byouki ga hidoku natta sei da. ("Only because my illness got worse")

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Agreed- most police do no need guns. They could be stored with the bullets separated.

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Lostrune2:

Not necessarily. Calling in a hoax for the other officers is premeditation. It could be shown that he was competent enough to plan his attack. As such, the judge may deny mental defence.

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Yujiro Iimori, 33, who has denied his involvement,

Fair enough, but he should have a good explanation of why he had the gun with him.

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I heard that there was a false alarm phone call that pulled two other officers away before Iimori showed up. If that is true then there is more to this story than we are being told. I don't believe in coincidence.

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Quote: "A co-worker said Iimori appeared strange recently."

Care in the community. Stopped taking his meds perhaps?

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"He carried a mental disability certificate, investigators said."

He planned his crime carefully considering his probable mental illness. But, aha, I don't think his crime paid. Anyway, it's good he's been arrested.

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How does someone with a mental disability get into the SDF?

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Police dept. should think about the security of their Police man in Koban while alone

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A pay phone about 800 meters south of the police box was used to make the call, which police said turned out to be a hoax.

@Sam Watters : indeed, not a coincidence. Feeling better ?

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I hope the officer who was stabbed fully recovers!

And at that hour of the AM, probably going to hear the "I was drunk and wanted to kill someone defense!"

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He's got a get-out-of-jail-free card

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"Now you can go to school with peace of mind." "Now I can move about freely,"

Are these people not aware that there are plenty more nutters out there? The over-reactions both before and after this guy was caught have been absurd. Don't walk around gawping at your phone: keep your head up, eyes open and watch out for the lunatics.

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No gun, no crime.

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What kind of father grasses up/narcs on their own son?

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