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Trial of former Nissan exec Kelly to start Sept 15

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By YURI KAGEYAMA

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I feel sorry for Kelly having to face the charges by himself. Hopefully he'll be found innocent of all charges.

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The irony is that the Nissan executives, Nada, Saikawa, and others, have caused 1000x more damage to Nissan and Japan than what Ghosn might have "done" if ever he is found guilty. Nissan shareholders and the Japanese people should sue both Nissan and Japan Prosecutors for costing the people millions of dollars.

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The defense should eat up the prosecution's witness Saikawa as a credible witness.

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I feel sorry for Kelly having to face the charges by himself. Hopefully he'll be found innocent of all charges.

Even if Carlos Ghosn were still in Japan there's nothing he could do, since they won't allow him to contact each other at all. Even worse Carlos Ghosn just facing hours interrogation without lawyer just like he had in the past.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/plltakano/archives/65953931.html

This case have many flaws in the beginning, just it check here, necessary evidence to support is also included.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/08/29/nissan-carlos-ghosn-coup-hari-nada/

16 ( +19 / -3 )

“We feel we have a solid case with ample evidence to win a guilty verdict,” Yamamoto told reporters recently.

Feel?

prosecutors have sent the equivalent of a billion pages of documents, mostly in English, that can only be examined on a computer at the Tokyo legal team’s office

Nasty. How is anyone meant to process that?

They have yet to hand over more than 70 7-inch-size boxes full of material marked as evidence, with only two weeks left before the trial opens.

Serious obstruction. Mistrial?

29 ( +29 / -0 )

the preparations for Kelly’s trial took a long time because of the massive amounts of evidence involved.

Almost Two years? Build case and arrest the person, what happen in Japan is really opposite.

Kelly’s counsel, said prosecutors have sent the equivalent of a billion pages of documents, mostly in English, that can only be examined on a computer at the Tokyo legal team’s office. They have yet to hand over more than 70 7-inch-size boxes full of material marked as evidence, with only two weeks left before the trial open

Billion pages of documents only can be opened on a computer at legal team's office with addtional 70 boxes of material, yet only the time that is given only two weeks. While the other side can access that freely for years.

25 ( +26 / -1 )

Too bad for Kelly the this is more of a “trial” than an actual trial given the numerous and severe shortcomings of the Japanese “justice” system.

Telling how all the Japanese who did similar things, Saikawa, et. al, aren’t facing any charges.

26 ( +28 / -2 )

System is rigged in Japan to support the prosecution and the judges nearly always side with them so I don't think Kelly has much chance. On a positive note white collar crime usually ends up with a suspended sentence so he probably wont do any time although pleading not guilty doesn't go down well here.

18 ( +20 / -2 )

Two years waiting, or should I call it "grace" period?

What's up with that? Japan: Guilty until YOU can prove you're innocent.

What a disgrace, what a joke! Well, at least the prosecutors can justify their position:

"For 2 years we worked our a... off, sitting around and doin' close to nithin'"

16 ( +17 / -1 )

System is rigged in Japan to support the prosecution and the judges nearly always side with them 

It's career suicide for judges not to side with the prosecution.

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@justasking: this article has more details on the shameful behavior of Nada and Saikawa (with particular emphasis on the former), with video of the humiliating raid of the home of an Indian Nissan employee in Yokohama: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-ghosn-nada-nissan/

We're used to reading about Japanese government officials and corporations being informed of these raids in advance; this time a gaggle of officials showed up, threatened to break the man's door chain, and got indignant when he criticized their tactics when the raid was over.

Somehow this kind of treatment never happens to connected figures like Saikawa!

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“The whole thing is a fraud,” Wareham told The Associated Press by phone.

Like the Japanese Justice system

“He is frustrated. He is upset,” Wareham said of Kelly. “He has been abused from the beginning by the Japanese system.”

exactly

18 ( +19 / -1 )

Nasty. How is anyone meant to process that?

It’s not uncommon in countries with actual justice systems. Sad, but not uncommon. If it’s a load of irrelevant documents, the party producing them can be sanctioned by the court.

Serious obstruction. Mistrial?

In countries with actual justice systems, this would warrant a rescheduling of the trial and likely sanctions against the prosecution.

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with video of the humiliating raid of the home of an Indian Nissan employee in Yokohama: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-ghosn-nada-nissan/

Do you mean, Ravinder Passi? He is british born person, his previous role is gobal general console in that company and had role to investigate about scandal. At some point he just asking about conflict of interest the people who report Carlos Ghosn to authority based on evidence he had, also integrity of evidence that were given to the authority. Since it's obtained in questionable way.

Next thing he know he got demoted and his house is being raided.

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video of the humiliating raid of the home of an Indian Nissan employee in Yokohama

Surely that's a British Nissan employee, or does pigmentation matter, too?

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The defense should eat up the prosecution's witness Saikawa as a credible witness.

Except that there will be 'expectations' that the defense doesn't get out if line...

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ThonTaddeo mentioned this above, but, just to make it stand out more. this is an excellent article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-ghosn-nada-nissan/

11 ( +11 / -0 )

Shame on Nissan! Shame on Japan for it's sickening justice system! I will never even consider buying Nissan again. Never.

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Hes screwed..Carlos left to hang..

10 ( +10 / -0 )

unbelievable and shameless. like they have nothing to do but takes so many years

to build up a case. how about saikawa and the rest? just bowed, apologized and got a free pass. why japan treated foreigner so differently? why?

12 ( +12 / -0 )

When is the trial of the Japanese execs starting? I thought so...

10 ( +10 / -0 )

@sakurasuki and Mickelicious, yes, Mr. Passi. I guessed he was Indian based on his name and face; I am happy to be corrected. The point is that he isn't Japanese, and he was treated with malicious contempt.

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In the beginning of 2019 other execs, Jose Munoz was promised nice package but only if he flew back to Japan while he was in US at that time. Luckily for him he decide not to go Japan and leave that company. After he received concerns from Spain's Ambassador to Japan and also from US.

Nobody knows what will happen to him if he decided to go back to Japan at that time.

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Wareham, Kelly’s counsel, said prosecutors have sent the equivalent of a billion pages of documents, mostly in English, that can only be examined on a computer at the Tokyo legal team’s office. They have yet to hand over more than 70 7-inch-size boxes full of material marked as evidence, with only two weeks left before the trial opens.

The above is PURE EVIL!!!

Clearly it is impossible for a defendant to even have a chance to prepare for their CONVICTION!!! In Japan there is almost 0 chance to prevail in the ""courts""

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On a positive note white collar crime usually ends up with a suspended sentence so he probably wont do any time although pleading not guilty doesn't go down well here.

Others white collar crime in Japan only end up, all executives bowed in front of public without involvment in court at all.

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""He believes the real motive was a “corporate coup” to oust Ghosn by others at Nissan who feared he might engineer a takeover by its French alliance partner, Renault.""

The Truth may never come out, but many know that Nissan was never happy about joining Renault, so it come as NO Surprise that this could be the main reason why they wanted Mr. Ghosn out.

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I read in the Asahi this morning that Nissan secured massive finance from a government investment body, with the government (i.e., you, me, and other taxpayers) guaranteeing two thirds of the loan. It's a very unusual scheme and doesn't it just feel great to be propping up such a charming company.

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Well that wasn't a particularly long wait.

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Your prayers are meaningless, Mr. Ghosn.

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""Saikawa replaced Ghosn but resigned last year over financial misconduct allegations of his own. He has not been charged.""

Typical Good Old Boys Justice, home boys walk, strangers get locked up.

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Jose Munoz was promised nice package but only if he flew back to Japan while he was in US at that time. Luckily for him he decide not to go Japan

Lucky guy, really lucky!

The MOJ has no credibility whatsoever outside Japan... although the Taylors judge didn't get the memo.

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ThonTaddeo mentioned this above, but, just to make it stand out more. this is an excellent article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-ghosn-nada-nissan/

Long but interesting article, if there is anybody out still thinking it wasn't a corporate coup then they need their brains checked. Hari nada what a scum of a man. He will be used and when there is no more use for him will be duscarded like used tissue, I have been through that and know what I an saying. Like a plaque I would advise any foreigner to avoid working for a J-company.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

A complete outrage. But don’t worry, Nissan’s got KimTaku in their commercials now, so everything will look just fine to the average Tanaka.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

Except that there will be 'expectations' that the defense doesn't get out if line...

Exactly. I’ve watched a few trials here and talked to a few defense attorneys. Their advice to their clients: act contrite and apologize.

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Let this be a lesson to any foreigner wishing to take up a high position in a Japanese company in Japan.

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Do not forget that Japanese lawyers in Japan serve the GOV interest. and check the number of Japanese lawyers who has been disciplined only in Tokyo, you will understand. Justice is a comedy here. I hope you believe in God or in supernatural thing Mr Kelly

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Foreigners in director & above roles must be CRAPPING their drawers now, especially if they are located in Japan!!!

Note to Japan..... Your plan for Tokyo for a financial center just DIED BIG TIME!!!

Personally my next step up here would be to a director level but no way in hell will I ever take that on even though I am at a small company, simply way too risky!! Hell we truth be told we dont even have to be a director or higher, days like this make me wish I lived somewhere ELSE!!!

8 ( +8 / -0 )

If Kelly is smart he’ll blame everything on Ghosn because ‘Ghosn is gone’!

8 ( +8 / -0 )

"Tickets!! Tickets for the most famous fraud legal show in Japan!! Kelly innocent, Saikawa found guilty!! Tickets!!"

9 ( +9 / -0 )

"Let this be a lesson to any foreigner wishing to take up a high position in a Japanese company in Japan."

Don't work for anything in Japan.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

jiji xx - thanks for the bloomberg article.

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Folks if you havent already & have a moment you SHOULD read this article Jiji xx posted above, copied below, truly horrifying!!!

ThonTaddeo mentioned this above, but, just to make it stand out more. this is an excellent article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-ghosn-nada-nissan/

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Saikawa replaced Ghosn but resigned last year over financial misconduct allegations of his own. He has not been charged.

Odd. I wonder what's different about Saikawa than Kelly and Ghosn. I guess we'll never know.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

The Japanese System was created by Japanese people. Stop blaming the system.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Stop blaming the [Japanese] system.

Not if it's blameworthy.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

the show trial begins. Kelly shouldn't speak at all, there's no point

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@Michael Machida

It's absurd to suggest, as you seem to be doing, that a system created by a particular society is somehow sacrosanct and should be immune to criticism by 'outsiders.'

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Give him 5 years if he rats on Ghost and his wife.

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Japanese prosecutors et. al are really doing a bang up job making Japan look like a judicial crap hole. Those "people" are a national embarrassment.

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If he rats on Ghosn and his wife, I’d let him plead guilty to a misdemeanor, sentence to time served, and no fine... and Bob’s yer uncle.

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