Woman arrested for leaving fetus in suitcase in Nagoya

Sickening, but not surprised while living in a disposable world.

Aborted at 5 months? By whom and how? That is a crime in itself. There is a lot more to this macabre story than is being exposed.

SInce when do they let you keep the fetus after an abortion?

Also curious about how she got her termination. I can’t imagine clinics say “do you want the fetus left here or take out?”

to have a termination is probably a good idea for a 20 year old restaurant worker, living with her Host partner.

I suppose those woman who wish to have a ceremony for the foetus, would be given the choice of taking it away for cremation?

That's my best first guess.

Good grief. Isn't it possible to use contraceptives until one is ready for a child?

Contraceptives are not 100% effective.

Maria - Contraceptives are not 100% effective.

Nor are they 100% used. And, by the way, a condom is 100% effective if used correctly.

The poor baby. I hope he or she can have a proper burial now.

The baby must have been pretty bad for them not to be able to tell if they were a boy or girl.

You have to be pretty messed up to murder a child so I'm not surprised the mother abandoned the body somewhere like that. It's like she wanted to be found so she could atone.

I hope the baby is at peace now and the mother can one day atone for her actions by helping others and saving lives instead of taking them.

And, by the way, a condom is 100% effective if used correctly.

No, this is not true.

This woman is pathological.

A baby aborted at 5 months, and it's corpse carried around

to be used as emotional blackmail?

This is a cry out for unborn rights.

Evil! EVIL, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!

@Maria,one kind of contraception alone isn't a sure hit. In combination with say, rhythm method, could be.

@Maria,one kind of contraception alone isn't a sure hit. In combination with say, rhythm method, could be.

Yes, I know, that's my point. Other posters seem to think condoms are 100% effective. I know they aren't, and it is a very bad idea to leave this ignorance uncorrected. Someone might read it and think it's a fact.

And unfortunately, could be isn't 100% either.

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We don't know what happened here, but abortion is legal here, and clearly so is giving the foetus to the woman after the procedure. The problem appears to be how Ms Kaneko dealt with it afterwards. The clinics ought to be more careful with this.

Maria

We don't know what happened here, but abortion is legal here, and clearly so is giving the foetus to the woman after the procedure. The problem appears to be how Ms Kaneko dealt with it afterwards. The clinics ought to be more careful with this.

Pro-life, pro-choice, whatever - the point here is this woman has committed a sick disgusting act.

The guy abandoned it inside her first, so she left it outside his host club. Does he bear no responsibility?

Lisa Twaronite: "The poor woman."

Yeah, the poor woman who aborted the baby, somehow managed to keep the fetus as a souvenir, and then kept it for some time before intentionally planting it where she did.

Sorry, but I hope she is at least charged with improperly abandoning a corpse, given how she kept the fetus and all, and what she did with it. Obviously no care about human life (I'm not arguing about pro-life and pro-choice), so why should we care about hers? Lock her up -- get her the help there.

Five months, that's horrible. It's theoretically possible there was something very wrong with the fetus that meant a late abortion was understandable, but the mother is certainly mentally unstable.

Aborted at 5 months? By whom and how? That is a crime in itself.

As noted above, it's possible the abortion was done legally because the fetus had significant medical complications that meant it was necessary. As I say, it's just a possibility.

If this was a "I don't want it" abortion, it's improbable it was carried out by a major healthcare centre. It's likely it was done by a doctor that has off-the-book clients like criminals who don't want questions asked when they get injured, or it was done "officially" but with falsified records to show that a late abortion was justified (fetus very heavily ill/mental anguish to the mother/etc). Or indeed an unregulated private "medic" of the sort that used to carry out abortions before they were legalised.

Abortions can be done up to 22 weeks in Japan, and are mostly carried out in clinics and smaller hospitals. There is nothing seedy or backstreet about them.

Results from a very quick google:

Abortions in Japan are available according to the conditions of the Maternal Protection Law, and up to 21 weeks and 6 days of pregnancy (in other words, within 21 weeks and 6 days after the start of the last menstrual period). After 22 weeks, abortions cannot be conducted in Japan unless it is medically necessary.  Abortions must be carried out by a medical practitioner and mostly in small local hospitals or clinics; there are no specialized abortion clinics in Japan.

Three visits to the hospital are typically required: the first, for the general consultation and medical examination; the second, for the procedure itself; and the third, for a follow-up check up. A consent form is required before the procedure, which asks for the husband’s or partner’s signature, but you can sign for yourself if the partner is unknown. If you are under the age of 18 years old, a parent’s or guardian’s signature is required.

From: https://telljp.com/lifeline/tell-chat/homepage/resources/pregnancy-options/

arrested on Sunday on suspicion of abandoning a fetus 

I don’t believe Japan has such a law. Abandonment of a corpse, yes - but not a fetus. Maybe for obstruction of business, I’d believe.

But I thought we were to believe that Host/Hostess clubs were not fronts for prostitution, lol.

On a side note, what is the thing with these J-women leaving dead babies in suitcases in area where anyone can find it? If you want to to be found, leave it in front of a hospital or police station. If don't want it found, there's a plethora of places you could dump it.

Abortions can be done up to 22 weeks in Japan

It still requires a doctor's approval. It's not like in western countries where a woman can simply say "I want an abortion because I want an abortion".

There is nothing seedy or backstreet about them.

That was on the assumption it was an illegal abortion or the doctor was taking a bribe. Certainly there will be such places for women who want abortions after the maximum time limit has passed.

I suppose the real question here is whether doctors just rubber-stamp the approval or actually consider whether the abortion is actually necessary. If the former then perhaps this was perfectly above board.

Curious. If called a fetus, does that mean that it was not born and is not legally a life? If so, why is she being charged with leaving material in a suitcase? Unless going through customs, as a fetus is not considered a life, then there should be no prosecution. Perhaps a fine, like for not declaring fruit.

If called a baby, then she could be prosecuted for abandoning a body. A fetus is not legally considered a life and therefore has no body to abandon. Just material. Terminology matters.

smithinjapanApr. 13 02:43 pm JST

Lisa Twaronite: "The poor woman."

Yeah, the poor woman who aborted the baby, somehow managed to keep the fetus as a souvenir, and then kept it for some time before intentionally planting it where she did.

Sorry, but I hope she is at least charged with improperly abandoning a corpse, given how she kept the fetus and all, and what she did with it. Obviously no care about human life (I'm not arguing about pro-life and pro-choice),

You actually are arguing choice v life as how she is charged is controversial. If charged with abandoning body, then you must say that the fetus was a living creature (baby), else it is just material. If charged with abandoning body, then that opens up can of worms of hypocrisy. If its body, then it cannot be aborted as it is a living being else it would be murder. Terminology matters. I can see the courts having fun with this for a while.

 If its body, then it cannot be aborted as it is a living being else it would be murder. 

Unless you are actively campaigning against war, capital punishment, and the right to die for people with terminal illnesses, then you, too, are being hypocritical.

Also, your opinion is moot in Japan. Abortion is a legal medical procedure, a choice given to all women. Ms Kaneko can be charged with improper disposal of medical waste, but the clinic is culpable too, for poor post-operative decisions.

Based on the title, the problem was because she used a suitcase vs ziplock bag?

Unless you are actively campaigning against war, capital punishment, and the right to die for people with terminal illnesses, then you, too, are being hypocritical.

Except for capital punishment, that makes no sense. Nobody is pro-war, and right to die refers to people choosing to die themselves. You have the germ of an argument with capital punishment.

Ms Kaneko can be charged with improper disposal of medical waste,

"Medical waste." Really?

There's more to this than what is in the article