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Kelly gets support from ex-boss Ghosn

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By YURI KAGEYAMA and JEFFREY SCHAEFFER

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I seriously can't believe that Kelly is still in Japan fighting this mess. What do they want from this guy? What a long nightmare.

12 ( +19 / -7 )

Free Kelly, his trial is a total SHAM!! & a SHAME!

8 ( +17 / -9 )

Shame, shame, shame.

Still no proof at all.

Even for Goshn who may have deserved a fine but was captured and treated like a terrorist.

5 ( +12 / -7 )

Ghosn said he had been offered a job at General Motors Co. but was reluctant to leave Nissan, and Japan, after the blows from the global financial crisis

If he took that job he doesn't need to live in exile like today. There are others company that value him even more.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Saikawa has always been culpable but his name always comes out as an afterthought.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

If he took that job he doesn't need to live in exile like today. There are others company that value him even more.

Just goes to show why Japan has had lost decades and with MANY more to come. Because of their corporate and legal ROT.

Saikawa has always been culpable but his name always comes out as an afterthought.

He's Japanese and a corporate darling. I can name TONS of Japanese, including many politicians, who are linked to scandals and NONE of them have been arrested and treated the same way Carlos and Greg were. Absolutely disgusting.

4 ( +10 / -6 )

Yeah, Kelly must be very happy about Ghosn's support.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Ghosn just gave him a life sentence. Kelly should do a plea bargain.

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"Greg Kelly is facing trial, while Saikawa is free. You know, what's the big difference?" Ghosn told the AP.

let the Japan Injustice system apologists explain that. Sure they will find a reason.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

Japan, you got this, like you do so many things, wrong.

Slap a fine on Ghosn, ban him from being Director, Kelly was just the Admin and followed the rules.

Why are you treating these two like prisoners of war?

Why are you not reporting on the obscene amount money Dentsu have been paid to build a beer garden in Yoyogi Koen for the Olympics? It's about USD $12m BTW. Why nothing on that, not enough white people in it to make it a story?

3 ( +6 / -3 )

Hiroto Saikawa, Nissan chief executive from 2017 until his 2019 resignation, was not charged, although his signature is on the same documents on Ghosn's post-retirement pay along with Kelly's.

One is Japanese, and part of the plot.

Any independent observer can see this, so hopefully the judge doesn’t embarrass Japan any further with a ridiculous verdict.

4 ( +7 / -3 )

We all know that since they lost Ghosn,Kelly is going to take the fall in his place.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Unfortunately "not guilty" is not part of the judicial vocabulary.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

Incidentally, I wonder how Mr. Kelly is making ends meet for 3 years during what should be some of his highest earning years.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Let me get this straight...AGAIN. Kelly is in trial because income that was NOT decided on was never disclosed? How do you disclose something that was not decided on? Only in Japan does this stuff happen.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

If he took that job he doesn't need to live in exile like today. There are others company that value him even more.

So why didn't he take the job?

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Consider the concessions that were made in this self-serving account:

Testimony and documents presented at Kelly's trial have shown that he sought ways to beef up compensation for Ghosn after he agreed to a pay cut at Nissan in 2010, when Japan began requiring disclosures of high executive pay.

In other words, Kelly is trying to ensure Ghosn actually receives more than his disclosed pay would have indicated rather than just disclose he gets paid a lot. Since ultimately the money still leaves the company, that clearly is an attempt to evade the clear intent of the new legislation. Any "legality" of such a solution is likely to be paper-thin and formalistic.

Kelly has emphasized that one of the main aims of the discussions about Ghosn's compensation was to ensure he would not leave Nissan for a rival company.

That's a motive, not a justification or negator for the crime.

In a hearing in Tokyo District Court on Wednesday, Kelly said that post-retirement payments were common at Nissan and often involved a "non-compete" clause barring the employee from working for a rival. In the case of Nissan North America that was a lifetime requirement.

That would still be a payout. Did you record the expense?

"Greg Kelly is facing trial, while Saikawa is free. You know, what's the big difference?" Ghosn told the AP.

Saikawa cooperated. What we have here is less a dispute of fact than a dispute of law - the facts are known and what's left is to apply the law to those facts.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Interesting insights @Kazuaki, glad I came back.

Just curious, you said before you dabble in law, are you on track now or planning to more than dabble?

0 ( +1 / -1 )

that clearly is an attempt to evade the clear intent of the new legislation.

is it illegal to attempt to evade an intent?

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"Greg Kelly is facing trial, while Saikawa is free. You know, what's the big difference?" Ghosn told the AP.

Ghosn was treated differently to Sakawa, that's unequal, unfair, arbitrary.

Law is supposed to be fair and equal.

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After Kazuaki, nothing much left to comment. Just a piece of info you all may know already for fun.

Testimony of ex-manager of legal-affairs department at Nissan at Greg Kerry's trial, reported by NHK on Dec 26

" I have explained repeatedly there's no such a loophole the chairman (Ghson) doesn't have to disclose it. Whether the payment is made this year or in future, we must disclose it"

"I heard from Mr Kerry that ((the chairman was losing his sense due to the disclosure law. The chairman is saying he doesn't mind going into jail if he can avoid disclosure)) "

"Shortly after I had explained the same over and over again to Mr, Kerry, he told me to transfer to a subsidiary"

There are other testimonies made by others like Nada-Hari under a plea-bargain about Kerry and Ghson.

I don't think Kerry is clean at all

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Oops. to be clearer

" I have explained (to Mr. Kerry) repeatedly there's no such a loophole the chairman (Ghson) doesn't have to disclose it. (I have stressed over and over to Mr.Kerry) whether the payment is made this year or in future, we must disclose it"

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Reported on Jan 14 NHK

Nada Hari testimony

"when told Mr.Kerry the scheme to pay him in future would be inappropriate and criminal act, he got so furious. He looked so stressed"

Asked why the chairman wanted to disclose less, " If his remuneration is disclosed as it is, the chairman was afraid of incurring odium from French government and possibly lose jobs at Renault"

I remember Ghson was saying thinking over Japanese employees' sentiments

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Hari Nada has been plotting to destroy Ghosn for years. He was hacking Ghosn mail, had a plan to kick Ghosn out, and was directly implicated in the presumed crime.

Hari Nada's words are worthless in a court of law.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

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