Amnesty accuses Japan of breaching int'l rules on death penalty

@smithinjapan: Safest big country on Earth yeah, and the stats 100% back that up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

And no, Japan has nothing to learn from the crime hellholes around the world, particularly the US.

Criticize Japan all you want about how "unsafe" it is but facts don't back that up and the guys here are quite obviously doing something right when you compare it to the rest of the world.

Yeah right, Japan is essentially the safest big country on Earth. Should Japan listen to these morons and make it like hellholes of crime like in the UK or America? Haha nope. Not in 100 years

Who'd be listening to the International Community its not like there is a track record of positive crime reduction by jailing alone.

In Japan in 2017, Amnesty recorded four executions and three death sentences issued.

123 people had their death sentences finalized by the courts.

At this rate, imagining that no more sentences are issued, it would take 30 years to clear all of death row.

What was that about people not wanting to pay taxes for inmates' accommodations ?

I would hate to be in a position whereby a loved one is accused of a Crime that they didn't commit, and had effectively been framed by some dodgy Politician, etc.... clearly were they up for a retrial, and their execution date pushed forward a bit, I would be most frustrated, especially were it to be carried out. In such a situation, I wonder what the recourse would be ?

kawabegawa198

Those executed contribute nothing to society. Not a big loss.

I'd hate to be the one hung only for them to find the real killer.

A bit like Iwao Hakamada.Mika Nishiyama,

and I guess if you had your way they'd all be in the gallows.

Here is a list of some of the cases proven to be miscarriages of justice.Some really are horrific, and no doubt many would want these people hanged.

http://www.jiadep.org/List_WA-C_files/page70_1.html

If the death penalty really put prevented crime, I guess the USA would be the safest country in the world. and since the US has had many false convictions, it would seem only logical that Japan may have had some too. More so, if they rely on confession rather than solid evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executions_in_Japan

With public support at a high for the death penalty it is unlikely that it will ever be repealed. Just because some people think it is wrong, doesn't mean that everyone should change their mind based on that assumption.

Why don't these amnesty SJWs compain about china SHOOTING criminals (including women) dead?

@smithinjapan... I'd like to think I have nothing to hide since I've done no wrong, but were I happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and chosen as the fall guy, then matters change somewhat, I suspect you are right, and I would be simply jail-bait, or worse hung.

The point is that when someone says it is a safe place and you have murders left right and center it's not a safe place at all.

Good thing Japan doesn't have murders left, right and center. The murder rate is extremely low here, one of the lowest on the planet.

At least there is an Organisation that draws our attention to such "issues" within Countries, issues that may otherwise just go unreported, and for doing so, regardless whether or not those Countries are for renown for not listening. So Congratulation Amnesty for showing us that Japan isn't so squeaky clean in comparison to other Nations. Hopefully, Japan will, unlike some other Countries nearby, admit that it could do a better job and seek to improve the situation.

Please also keep in mind Japan does NOT record interrogations and confessions alone can be used to secure a death sentence against someone regardless of what DNA evidence or other evidence surfaces afterward.

Think about that for a moment.

Not everyone who ends up in the bullseye of prosecutors is guilty. As civilized beings we are supposed to be able to allow justice to judge people blindly. It is not happening in Japan. Do not be so quick to judge.

Yeah right, Japan is essentially the safest big country on Earth. Should Japan listen to these morons and make it like hellholes of crime like in the UK or America? Haha nope. Not in 100 years

Only morons think the death penalty and flawed judicial system in Japan are responsible for it being so safe. Extreme societal pressure to conform and relatively universal wealth are responsible.

Why don't these amnesty SJWs compain about china SHOOTING criminals (including women) dead?

They do.

“you have murders left right and center it's not a safe place at all. “

But there AREN’T murders left right and center. That’s the point.

Please do tell me which countries you consider safer.

Japan is the safest country in the world,because it executes killers.Potential killers are deterred,because they know they will be hanged if they kill

There is zero evidence to support this claim.

“ The use our taxes for the food they don't deserve to eat. Also, until you are not (and I hope you'll never be) directly in such a situation, where somebody murders a large part of your family, you can not possibly know the feelings of the surviving relatives.”

I was addressing Smithinjapan’s comment-

”Safest place on earth, eh? Just look at all the family murders in the last few days alone and you know that's utter BS”

not the death penalty. An intentional murder rate of 0.31 per 100,000 for Japan...Great Britain has almost three times the rate (0.92) . Familial murders do not endanger Smithinjapan at all, nor make the country less safe overall. If 0.31 per 100,000 makes you feel unsafe, where else are you going to live?

Those executed contribute nothing to society. Not a big loss.

Trump needs to learn from Japan's law enforcement and criminal justice system, we badly need a clean up back in the States

... also, those executed while awaiting retrial were proven already guilty, and were hoping in a lighter, life in prison sentence, as a second chance they didn't give their victims. How fair does it sound now?

(Japantoday, an editing function on the forum here would be nice, wishing it since 2002 actually!)...

I have no priblem with the death penalty.

Thepriblem in Japan is the fact that 'confessions' are often signedunder duress.

Dear's i am shocked saw at Tokyo detention center hanging point from great japan Today and Thrilled i am fav'our foll'owing amnesty international Rule's.

Commendable of Amnesty Intl, provided the Japanese govt can provide a way to reform and resituate the inmates without harm to others.

The only reason to support Amnesty Intl's position is the fact that the JP criminal justice system is so incompetent and corrupt that there is a VERY high probability of innocent people being put onto death row.

99% conviction rate - there's no other nation on earth like Japan. It is a farce and any nation with such a bizarre, warped and WRONG justice system should not be allowed to utilize the death penalty. The probability of Japan executing innocent people is extremely high given the conviction rate.

 also, those executed while awaiting retrial were proven already guilty, and were hoping in a lighter, life in prison sentence, as a second chance they didn't give their victims. How fair does it sound now?

Retrials are not permitted unless their was a flaw in the original trial. If there was a flaw in the original trial, the defendant may not be guilty. If the defendant was innocent but wasn't allowed the retrial to demonstrate that because they were execute, that isn't fair at all.

@kawabegawa198

That may be the most stupidest thing I've read here... of course those executed do not contribute to Society... they're dead!

Death penalty and its execution is required to prevent crime victims from employing the traditional Three R's - Revenge , Retaliation , and Retribution. Activity that would destroy a societies framework.

Dont listen to Amnesty, PM Abe. I believe they,and sometimes UN,have anti-Japan bias. Japan is the safest country in the world,because it executes killers.Potential killers are deterred,because they know they will be hanged if they kill.

Other nations would be safe too,if they copy Japan’s death sentence.

While I agree with the death penalty in principle, and am not a fan of Amnesty International, in the case of Japan, Law, and more to the point the Rule of Law, needs to be put under the international microscope.

“Just look at all the family murders in the last few days alone and you know that's utter BS”

Thise family murders endanger you, how?

group is "also concerned about several death row prisoners who are displaying symptoms of mental and intellectual disability."

Oh, boo hoo! They're worried about the health and sanity of some religious terrorists who planned and took the lives of many.

Himajin: "Thise family murders endanger you, how?"

They don't, although any lunatic walking around should worry anyone. The point is that when someone says it is a safe place and you have murders left right and center it's not a safe place at all. You also see people snapping and pushing others in front of trains, you have the word "toorima" which doesn't exist in other languages, etc.

"Familial murders do not endanger Smithinjapan at all, nor make the country less safe overall. If 0.31 per 100,000 makes you feel unsafe, where else are you going to live?"

Again, you're simply deflecting. Saying you shouldn't be concerned about facts simply because it does not affect your circle directly is ludicrous. It'd be like if you said to an American, "If you're worried about being shot in the US, don't own a gun." When you talk about safety, and murder, familial murders play into the safety of EVERYONE, and the murder or safety rates of everything in society. Just because you might be used to ignoring or not accepting opinions on anything that doesn't concern you does not mean this does not actually concern you. You're just being defensive.

Next you'll be telling us war in Syria shouldn't be a concern to anyone outside Syria. Or cancer from smoking shouldn't concern non-smokers (despite second-hand) and we should all shut up about it because there are other cancers.

No capital crime, no capital punishment — Amnesty International’s goals met! Simple solution. Humanity always cry’s out for retribution for capital crimes against its persons, without it we would live in a LAWLESS world!!!

Not a fan of death penalty unless it's extreme cases such as rape.

I stopped taking this article seriously as soon as I read the word "Amnesty".

Amnesty accuses Japan of breaching int'l rules on death penalty

Good.

Thise family murders endanger you, how?

The use our taxes for the food they don't deserve to eat. Also, until you are not (and I hope you'll never be) directly in such a situation, where somebody murders a large part of your family, you can not possibly know the feelings of the surviving relatives. I think it is therefore inappropriate to judge their wishes for such executions to take place (or not).

*Japan is the safest country in the world,because it executes killers....**Other nations would be safe too,if they copy Japan’s death sentence.*

What rubbish. If it were true that the death penalty prevented crime, the countries that kill the largest numbers of convicts - China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan - would be peaceful, crime-free paradises.

Japan has an intentional murder rate of 0.31 per 100,000: China, 0.74: Iran, 4.12: Saudi Arabia, 1.5: Iraq, 8.0: and Pakistan, 7.81.

The US, with the death penalty, has an intentional murder rate of 4.88: the UK, with no death penalty, 0.92.

The figures show that the death penalty is no deterrent.

If a person is crazy enough to deliberately kill another person, they're crazy enough not to be concerned about what happens to them afterwards. Or crazy enough to think they aren't going to get caught.

Japan not following human rights? There's a shocker!

Dog9065: "Should Japan listen to these morons and make it like hellholes of crime like in the UK or America?"

Safest place on earth, eh? Just look at all the family murders in the last few days alone and you know that's utter BS. What's more, yes, they should listen to other nations, because given the fact that even Japan admits it forces confessions to get it's 99% rate, it's very likely that a LOT of innocent people are being murdered by the state. And even then, what is it you have against Japan following ITS OWN procedures here, as the article states Japan is not when it puts people with retrials in the works to death? The actions taken by Japan represent a breach in its own agreements.