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Suspect in Osaka mental health clinic fire that killed 25 dies in hospital

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-5 ( +8 / -13 )

Deadly fires are unusual in Japan

doesn't seem that way to me....

which has strict building standards

on paper anyway....

and violent crime is rare.

also, 'doesn't seem that way to me'....

4 ( +18 / -14 )

At this point news coverage is counterproductive, since there is no way to get retribution from the criminal nor further punishment keeping him in the news runs the risk of inspiring other people to get "famous" in the same way.

14 ( +16 / -2 )

I am 29 and due to my autism, I was hospitalized in my teenage years, those hospitalizations at mental health facilities not lasting more than a month. However, every time I was discharged, I returned home with deep resentment towards society. (I blamed society for 'committing me to the mental health facility').

That said, I consider this man, that as a former patient, could have had motivations similar to the sentiments and feelings I felt when discharged. That's said, easily with him dead and we will never truly know why.

Perhaps, he was only too mentally ill to even have a motive.

I just wanted to give the hindsight and insight of someone who has been at mental health facilities.

At the end, a very sad case, so many dead, and a case that will never bring an end about. I just hope that those left on Earth can feel closure somehow. My sympathies for them. Deep sympathies.

19 ( +21 / -2 )

Evil waste of space. Wont be missed by anyone.

violent crime is rare.

True. Thankfully Japan is not like the USA and there are very few guns. If there were, there would be countless more massacres and deaths.

6 ( +16 / -10 )

I hope Tanimoto suffered terribly before he died.

-6 ( +6 / -12 )

Hokkaidoboy above, thank you for your precious insights. I am sorry for what you had to go through.

This guy tried to murder his whole family about ten years ago and spent four years in prison for that, so he must have been aware of some terrible urges inside himself.

12 ( +14 / -2 )

Appreciate your candor @Hoikkaido boy 8am and it was truly unfortunate your ‘neurodevelopmental disorder’ was misunderstood by those that made decisions for you ‘at that time. It seems now you are fully cognizant of your feelings about past events. We are left only to speculate until police provide a full profile of this scoundrel’s motivations and intentions. - Wishing you all the best moving at forward in life.

*- @Hokkaidoboy 8am: “I am 29 and due to my autism, I was hospitalized in my teenage years, those hospitalizations at mental health facilities not lasting more than a month. However, every time I was discharged, I returned home with deep resentment towards society. (I blamed society for 'committing me to the mental health facility'). That said, I consider this man, that as a former patient, could have had motivations similar to the sentiments and feelings I felt when discharged. That's said, easily with him dead and we will never truly know why. Perhaps, he was only too mentally ill to even have a motive.  I just wanted to give the hindsight and insight of someone who has been at mental health facilities.*

At the end, a very sad case, so many dead, and a case that will never bring an end about. I just hope that those left on Earth can feel closure somehow. My sympathies for them. Deep sympathies.” -
1 ( +3 / -2 )

This lone sentence of AFP ‘pro-Japan propaganda’, nestled into the middle of this article, is absolutely no consolation to survivors of crime and utter insult to the memory of the victims ! :

- “Deadly fires are unusual in Japan, which has strict building standards, and violent crime is rare.” -

Read the prior articles and specific comments highlighting the inaccuracy of such media lies, contradictions and hypocrisy: - https://japantoday.com/category/crime/osaka-arson-suspect-identified-all-buildings-to-be-checked - (original AP article will continue to be available).

- “Some of the clinic's clients who spoke to Japanese media said it was always crowded with up to 20 people waiting, especially on Fri when special counseling & programs were available for those preparing to return to work after sick leave.

*The fire was a shocking reminder of the 2019 attack at the Kyoto Animation studio, in which an attacker stormed in and set the building on fire, killing 36 people and injuring more than 30 others. The incident shocked Japan and drew an outpouring of grief from anime fans worldwide. *In 2001, an intentionally set blaze in Tokyo's Kabukicho entertainment district killed 44 people - the country's worst known case of arson in modern times.” -

6 ( +9 / -3 )

The authorities will never know why.

I doubt very seriously the individual could explain with any degree of certainty why he did what he did.

I think it's mainly mystery story writers plus perhaps a handful of students who have taken a Psychology 101 level class that might try to explain an individual's motives for why they did anything, I think it's near impossible to explain with any certainty why any individual does something beyond doing basic biological functions and actions.

4 ( +6 / -2 )

Deadly fires are unusual in Japan, which has strict building standards, and violent crime is rare.

Say what! With the exception of the arson attack that killed 38 people last year, all the random stabbings and family mass-murders, of course. Do Japanese people actually believe this guff?

7 ( +13 / -6 )

Killers will always find a way to kill. Japanese murderers must be more creative than American murderers, who simply rely on guns for firepower rather than actual fire power.

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Comparatively speaking, yes, deadly fires resulting in multiple deaths caused by arson are relatively rare in Japan (once or twice a year could be considered rare in a population of 126,000,000 people). Other violent crime resulting in multiple deaths is also relatively rare in Japan.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

I am a former firefighter - and impressed by the response of firefighters in our locale.

The incidence of structural fires in Japan, is low considering the density and seemingly lack of fire standards. The USA, though with more than twice the population, has ten times the amount of structural fires.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

The article lies when it says Japan has strict building codes because there was no sprinkler system and no fire extinguishers nearby and the fire exit was blocked.

Also ive never seen any tags on any fire extinguishers in Japan anywhere that show the fire extinguishers are actually ready to be used effectively.

And this was a clinic !

And the people that managed to escape by just running away could have stopped the fire if fire extinguishers were handy .

Mental health is a serious issue in Japan and at least half of the people you meet appear to be scared of thier own shadow.

More mental health clinics and emotional support groups and networks are much needed in Japan and aromatherapy to be recognized as medicine.

My sincere condolences for the victims who needlessly perished and their grieving family members.

0 ( +8 / -8 )

What a tragedy. I would like them to keep investigating and I want to understand if his motive was just to be a nuisance or if he intended to kill a lot of people.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

That's sad news....

Said absolutely nobody!

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Statistics (USA & Japan):

Violent crime Intentional homicide rate

13 times more than Japan

Violent crime Murder rate

26 times more than Japan

Last time I checked there were more than 200 countries in the world of which the USA and Japan are part of.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Stop issuing these antidepressants so easy, the so called "doctors" are issuing like candy bars. this whole treatment methods is outdated and not working, as I see so may people suffering and depressed.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

The perpetrator had a history of violence and abuse. And had done time.

2011 he stabbed his son. And went to prison.

He put 'blocks' in place to prevent escaping. Was armed with a knife and tear gas. Physically thwarted individuals from exiting. He also lit the emergency exit on fire. And caulked the fire hydrant door shut.

https://p.potaufeu.asahi.com/59a4-p/picture/26554284/7f0f2ddb9663d4127ed2f8749d64ae7c.jpg

3 ( +3 / -0 )

"caulked the fire hydrant door shut."

sheesh he made it that far,

you'd think one of those lookie loos would have spotted him and dropped a dime, oh wait a jn can fly under the their radr- we know that, think it aint? Me a ngerian put some mail in a mailbox, and had all I's on me, and the nabs came soon. "weeds and salt pits"

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Well, he lived for 14 days after the incident with severe burns which are usually very painful. Hopefully the medical staff treating him were using the necessary amount of care when changing the dressings and administering the pain killers. However, hospitals can be very busy at this time of year so maybe his last days were in agony.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Sad story. If he knew what he did was wrong, I hope he suffered, bad, for those 14 days. If he was in a state of delusion that convinced him that his actions were positive, then I hope he rests in peace now that he's free of those delusions.

-7 ( +0 / -7 )

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