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Shooting of Abe stuns nation known for gun control

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By YURI KAGEYAMA

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“Firearms legislation in Japan is very restrictive, so I think what we’re seeing here, with what’s probably a muzzle-loading weapon, is not just an attempt to circumvent the control of firearms, but also the strict control of ammunition in Japan,” he said.

A former Japanese military just made his way through that restrictive rules

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/former-japanese-prime-minister-collapses-during-speech

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Japanese PM's have been assassinated in the past by firearms, nothing new. Tokyo Station seems to be a hotspot in the past.

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Hope this proves that folks intent on causing harm will find a way to circumvent whatever laws prohibit law abiding citizens from owning firearms.

Gun control freaks need to open their eyes because there is a world beyond their bubble which does not function as per their laws designed to deprive people with legitimate reasons from access to self defense.

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Anyone using this as a reason to oppose gun restrictions automatically disqualify themselves from any logical or intelligent debate.

Heard the same nonsense over and over yesterday. Anyone who wants a gun can get one or make their own, yes, but that is not a legitimate reason to oppose gun control.

Anyone who wants meth can get it or feasibly make their own. Does that mean it shouldn’t be illegal or controlled?

Danger can never be eliminated 100%. Using this tragedy as evidence that gun control doesn’t work is idiotic.

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> The weapon used in the attack on Abe likely was a “craft-made” firearm, according to N.R. Jenzen-Jones, the director of Armament Research Services, a specialist arms investigations firm.

….

The assailant went to a lot of trouble to make the weapon.

Was it for a specific purpose?

Was it a planned attack on Abe?

And why?

The police obviously know the answers to the above but will the people of Japan ever know?

It is doubtful….

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The assailant went to a lot of trouble to make the weapon.

Was it for a specific purpose?

Yes. Shooting someone.

Was it a planned attack on Abe?

Looks that way.

And why?

The police obviously know the answers to the above but will the people of Japan ever know?

It is doubtful….

How do the police obviously know the answers? It’s been less than 24 hours since the murder. Bit early to claim there is a cover up.

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Despite some using this news to further their pro-gun agendas, in fact it proves that Japan's strict gun laws WORK in preventing the kinds of unchecked gun violence that permeates throughout American society. Only ONE death from a firearm in Japan last year, and less than a dozen incidents involving firearms. If Japan had less strict gun laws, there would undoubtedly be more crimes involving guns because it is easier to hurt someone with a firearm as compared to a knife. All those recent mass shooters in America legally purchased their guns. If the U.S. had similar restrictions as Japan, those shootings would neve have happened.

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From BBC news

Police investigating the assassination of Japan's ex-prime minister Shinzo Abe have said the suspect held a grudge against a "specific organisation".

Why won't police name the organisation? If I had to guess it sounds like it may be the infamous Nippon Kaigi which him and so many other Japanese politicians are a part of.

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No point in talking about gun control laws in Japan in this situation because he didn't purchase the weapon.

I must admit that when i first moved to Japan i was very surprised how easy and affordable it is to purchase fireworks at numerous locations and franchises like DAISO where anyone can touch.

Even in the USA fireworks are not available to everyone and usually kept in an area out of reach.

More closely regulating gunpowder products is something that should be considered.

Copycat cat crimes do happen in Japan.

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Why won't police name the organisation?

It appears to be a "religious group" to which the murderer's mother belonged. Just wait, it'll be all over social media in a few hours.

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Why don’t people want to discuss the fact that murder is murder, doesn’t matter the means used. People die and it’s from individuals who have mental health problems. Guns, Knives, Cars, How can you really stop a psycho who wants to kill? They will always find a way just like this guy did. Made a gun, got around the strict gun control laws and apparently he made homemade bombs as well.

The people who are killed, do you think they care what type of weapon was used to end their lives. My goodness. Stop bickering over guns. Japan it seems has a very serious problem with mental health. It’s time we have that discussion.

No one deserves to be murdered by mentally I’ll people!

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A greater and stricter control of firearms and knives for Japan, to make it even safer, as the great civilized and modern country that it is..

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A greater and stricter control of firearms and knives for Japan, to make it even safer, as the great civilized and modern country that it is..

Won’t matter one bit. This guy killed Abe with a homemade shotgun. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. If a person wants to desperately kill someone regardless of what the law is, methodical people will go to any lengths like this guy did and exploit all of Japanese weaknesses.

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Won’t matter one bit. This guy killed Abe with a homemade shotgun. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. If a person wants to desperately kill someone regardless of what the law is, methodical people will go to any lengths like this guy did and exploit all of Japanese weaknesses.

Exactly

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most Japanese go through life without ever handling, or even seeing, a real gun.

And they’re better people for it.

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Shooting of Abe stuns nation known for gun control

I'm only stunned that security was so lax.

I'm not stunned that a criminal committed a violent act, this time using a firearm.

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I have seen many comments getting upvoted on YouTube about what's the use of gun law if such can happen in Japan.

They are so wrong. They need to know the citizens in US have more chance of getting gunned with the that law.

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I think there are more people killed in Japan by knives than guns...

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I'm only stunned that security was so lax.

same for me, after the first shot we can see Abe for almost 30 seconds still standing and talking while anyone from the body guards or police put him down, what they are paid for ??

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Police investigating the assassination of Japan's ex-prime minister Shinzo Abe have said the suspect held a grudge against a "specific organisation".

We won’t be able to hear it directly from Yamagami. A political organization, a religious organization, whatever the motive will be filtered.

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Gun Control?

You can't "Control" home made guns.

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My heart goes out to the beautiful people of Japan. My sincere, utmost condolences.

RIP Mr. Abe.

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Is Japan even known for its gun laws or are people just taking the opportunity to try to justify they don't work? While completely glossing over the fact the guy didn't even purchase the gun?

What is unique about Japan's gun laws that sets it apart from other gun laws?

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