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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

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Sounds like my ex-J wife has been dating again. She was crazy and very dangerous too.

A spokeswoman for Tokyo Metropolitan Police confirmed to AFP that officers were investigating an unnatural death.

And there was me thinking this was natural. You learn something new everyday...

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Was she scorned, or coerced?

-29 ( +6 / -33 )

How come you're all assuming it was a woman?

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They are "investigating an unnatural death."

What gave them that idea??!! He may have only had a tragic cooking accident!

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I'm wondering why the perp felt the need to hide the severed genetalia under the bed. And unnatural cause of death? Pssh! Ya think?!

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A spokeswoman for the Tokyo Metropolitan Police confirmed to AFP that officers were investigating an unnatural death.

You don't say?

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LagunaJan. 16, 2012 - 02:30PM JST

How come you're all assuming it was a woman?

Would you like to make a small bet it was not?

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I pity the person who had to pick the 'bits' from under the bed. That must have been an awful experience. It would certainly cause me serious nightmares...

Also, I have to wonder if he was dead before the 'bits' were cut off. Whatever, this is a shocking crime.

This person (probably a woman) needs to be found fast. I will sleep with one eye open just in case there are copycats out there...

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tokyokawasaki.

Make sure all the kitchen knifes are locked way too, most over 90% are committed with those.

FYI, most killings are done by associates, friends or family of the victim.

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What will the charge be? Possibly "genital mutilation" along with "abandonment of a corpse"? Anyway. rest in peace poor dude - no matter what the circumstances - each and every male JT reader crossed their legs and winced at this story, thats for sure...

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What a way to go. I feel bad for any innocent family members. Not that I condone this awful murder, but he must have done some pretty bad things for someone to want to do this to him.

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It wasnt me, I swear it!

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Itai desu. Wow, I hope he was out cold when that was done or if he was a real bastard then maybe not dependiong on whodunit. Was he married, in a relationship with a woman or man or a sacraficial lamb in an exotic cooking club he bought into without reading the members rules first?

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Hell, this could have been a very angry woman getting back at this dead dude, or could have been a gay lover, or anyway, OUCH!!! RIP dead dude with his huevos no more.

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Gruesome. Hope he was dead (or at least unconscious) before he got his parts severed. Sometimes imagination is a pain...

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In a move described by sources familiar with the topic as "unprecendented", a spokeswoman for the Tokyo Metropolitan Police confirmed to AFP that officers have in principle ruled out suicide.

As for who did it, some of you are almost as quick as the police to draw a conclusion that this is a crime of passion. It could equally be a yakuza job. I personally know of someone who was pushed down a flight of stairs by the yakuza for non-payment, and as far as I know noone was ever convicted of his death. Only last month someone was killed in a hit-and-run, and it has turned out he was murdered. It probably happens a lot, and considering 30,000 officially declared suicides a year in Japan and the low autopsy/investigation rates, is actually quite a scary thought.

Anyway, RIP. Noone deserves to go that way.

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tough way to die.

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Let's hope the perpetrator is heavily penalized.

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I wonder which came first? Were his genitals mutilated before or after he was stabbed in the chest?

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Sounds like the ending from the movie 'In The Realm of the Senses'. I wonder anyone here watched this old Japanese movie before?

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You would think they would have flushed them, and taken the knife to a very far and remote place, like dropping it off of the Rainbow Bridge.

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Was it his apartment? Who's apartment?

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If I was a betting man, I´d put my money on "cheating on Chinese girlfriend".

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A real test for the police team investigating.

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If I was a betting man, I´d put my money on "cheating on Chinese girlfriend".

No - I'd be on the scorned Japanese woman - never met scarier people than them...

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A spokeswoman for the Tokyo Metropolitan Police confirmed to AFP that officers were investigating an unnatural death.

Really?

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My first thought is the killer is a man, either a spurned lover or a cuckolded husband. It is tough to kill a full grown man, especially when his family jewels are in the balance. If it was a woman, he might have been drugged/poisoned before the most painful cut.

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Having ya genitals cut off is definitely unnatural? It's a wonder they weren't taken.

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Don't assume it was a woman, maybe he broke off a relationship with a male partner. Either way, definitely a crime of passion.

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Sounds like the ending from the movie 'In The Realm of the Senses'. I wonder anyone here watched this old Japanese movie before?

@ shady86: Yes I have seen that movie and it does indeed sound like the same situation.

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Alphaabe:

" I have seen that movie and it does indeed sound like the same situation. "

Um... no. In that case, one important piece would be missing and being carried around by the perp. But they found all the parts under the bed.

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Welcome to Japan Ms. Bobbitt. And the Bobbitt procedure has been introduced to Japan.

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My mistake, Bobbitt must have learned the trade from Sada Abe first. Wow it went full circle, so terrifying.

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A spokeswoman for the Tokyo Metropolitan Police confirmed to AFP that officers were investigating an unnatural death.

It's detective work like that that lets me go to bed and sleep peacefully at night.

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Underground sex change op gone wrong, made to look like a murder?

The handywork of a jealous husband, boyfriend or stalker?

Who knows?

I am going to wait for more clues before I decide. Hardly any details here to work with.

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Hi Shady86...The Realm of Senses is one of the movies about Sada Abe and Kichi San (others have been made). It's a true story, and you can ask any older Japanese person about her. She became very famous for doing this, and they all know about her legendary deed.

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**How come you're all assuming it was a woman?

Would you like to make a small bet it was not?**

Why not? Statistics play in favor that isn't wasn't. How about we wait until we get more info deciding who is guilty?

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tmarie:

" Why not? Statistics play in favor that isn't wasn't. "

Do they? Are there even statistics of cuffing off male genitalia? Can you point us to some?

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Isn't Akishima close to the U.S. base (Yokota)? I was once stationed there and visit there from time to time. Scary!

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The title does not say 'cut' off, but 'sliced' off. They are different.

Cutting would be one swift stroke and job done.

Slicing gives a series of fine lean cuts. Different kind of character.

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Might want to look at stats for murder rates...

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Yeah... this guy must have pissed off his girlfriend or.... the girl's real boyfriend or maybe he did something even worse!!. Bad stuff!! I feel bad for him cause that's worst than being hung, but until we know what happened he's just another "victim" to me.

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I guess I am not going to have that sausage and meatballs tonight for dinner. Feel like a salad.

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I don't care what you all say here this was not SUICIDE!!!

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Anyone thinking it wasn't a female is in denial.How many times has a p.o. woman gone for the family jewels?Pathetic really and unnecessary.

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Horrific.

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tmarie:

" Might want to look at stats for murder rates... "

I thought you would say that. But this is not just a random "murder". This is a very specific type of mutilation, and while I have not statistics in front of me, I would bet that for this particular type of crime the perp is typically female, and typically a scorned one.

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Gruesome indeed, but that could be just a rue, maybe the killer or killers just wanted to distract the police. The know it would draw attention, from the really reason why they killed that man.

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Was it a weekly mansion in West Tokyo , Lots of those places do not have a waste paper box in the room. That's why the parts were under the bed.

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I would bet that for this particular type of crime the perp is typically female, and typically a scorned one.

Statistics shows that a scorned woman will mutilate without killing.

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Indeed could be just a subterfuge for the real reason of killing. Most women would not have the strength to accomplish this unless they were able to drug him

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Yvonne, you seem to know quite a lot about this scenario.... whaddya think dr watson?

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Sensei: "Don't assume it was a woman, maybe he broke off a relationship with a male partner. Either way, definitely a crime of passion."

Good point, but do you think a man would do that to another man? Possible, I guess, and I agree with the crime of passion thing.

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Hahaha! Cheating bastard!

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I thought you would say that. But this is not just a random "murder". This is a very specific type of mutilation, and while I have not statistics in front of me, I would bet that for this particular type of crime the perp is typically female, and typically a scorned one.

Glad you;re not deciding who is guilty and who is innocent based on your stereotypes. You could bet - you could be wrong, you could be right but why the need to even bet? Why not wait until there is more info?

Heck, if some guy wanted to lead the cops away, seems like this would be a good way looking at the replies here.

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The question is, were his genitals cut off before or after he was stabbed in the chest and stomach?

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The question is, how come I got so many thumbs-downs for asking a simple question? Mrs Babbitt did it because she objected to her husband forcing himself on her. A woman scorned surely wouldn't find herself within cutting distance in the first place?

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Cleo, you're getting downvoted because the word "coerced" seems to imply that the murderer somehow had no choice but to kill and mutilate the genitals of this man. Nothing justifies a crime like this. Nothing.

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tmarie:

" Glad you;re not deciding who is guilty and who is innocent based on your stereotypes. You could bet - you could be wrong, you could be right but why the need to even bet? "

You only bet on things where the odds are in your favour, i.e. those that are likely. And from my pov, it is extremely likely that this was a woman. Of course I am not certain; nobody is. Theoretically, it could have been an alien from Outer Nebula.

Meanwhile, I am still waiting for your statistics about males doing this sort of mutilation. I assume I should not hold my breath...

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But what about the man`s occupation??? I need to know!

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you're getting downvoted because the word "coerced" seems to imply that the murderer somehow had no choice

Now I see, thanks for the heads-up. Not what I meant at all. I was just wondering if perhaps whoever did it had been on the receiving end of the unwelcome ministrations of the organs in question. I think there would have to be quite a strong feeling of anger/hate to kill somebody and then mutilate them in that way. I agree absolutely that nothing justifies killing a person - though once they're dead, mutilation is nothing but low-class bad taste - a bit like weeing on dead people and laughing about it.

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Yes, definately an un natural death, a horribley gruesome one

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Wow. I found these two links with more info, in Japanese.

http://news.tbs.co.jp/newseye/tbs_newseye4928424.html

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20120116-00000117-jij-soci

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Meanwhile, I am still waiting for your statistics about males doing this sort of mutilation. I assume I should not hold my breath...

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for yours. YOU were the one that stated you thought it was a women. You are the one making all the assumptions. How about YOU give some stats for your line of thinking?

If you want to play stats, men are more likely to be murders - or, at least, get caught.

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Oh and if you wanted to get "technical", way more men mutilate female bodies than women do of men. That female genital mutilation and all... But I doubt you will even consider this nor acknowledge it. If you put "mutilation" into a search, plenty of female mutilation articles. I'm willing to bet done by men...

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tmarie:

" If you want to play stats, men are more likely to be murders "

You are repeating yourself. Again: For "murder"... yes. For cutting off the parts in question, emphatically NO.

Men are statistically more violent. We know that. That is testosterone. But even the most violent man would, generally, not touch another guys parts in question with a ten foot pole, not even to dream of grabbing them in order to gut.

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Personally if its not a woman that did this it most certainly could have been some yak work. Sure an angry lover could do this but organized crime also can do some torture before murder too.

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A quick google check seemed to show that it is indeed usually women who commit this sort of crime against men and usually after the man has been caught cheating or forced himself on the women but men far outnumber women when it comes to criminal mutilation of female genitalia. I'm not talking about the kind done for whatever bizarre cultural reasons. Still, there were a surprising number of cases where men had mutilated other men and not because they were scorned lovers. I think the links I posted were removed so you'll have to do your own searches.

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This is a wake up call to all males here not to anger and fool your woman.... har..har..har...

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Honest Dictator I would say that it most likely a scorned boyfriend or husband ....possibly a stalker even of some girl fantasized about. As for organized crime having a part ( Pardon the usage of "part" ) in this I would have to lean towards no involvement . Most gang related attacks would either stable the dudes junk on his forehead, mail it to a family member or make him find out what his left ball tasted like before they brutally stabbed his dickless &ss

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i think it was a pretty pissed off woman with no reguards, if you were a guy would you let another guy have access to your kahunas? wouldnt think so lol i betr he was trying to hook up withy someone in the redlight district and didnt have the money and she taught him a lesson casue he didnt pay up but who knows its only speculation

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Familienprobleme

Underground sex change op gone wrong, made to look like a murder?

I'm sorry, but this is so band a theory I've got to answer.

1- People born as males who want a sex change don't simply want to "chop it off", they want to replace it by a vagina (or what looks like one). To create that orifice, they reuse the tissues of the penis, so cutting it off is counter-productive. And yes, I know probably more about the details of such operations than a non-transgender person should.

2- The idea that it could have been an underground sex change operation "made to look like" a murder is illogical. Surely, murder would be more severely punished, especially murder accompanied by severe genital mutilation, than a botched illegal operation. If anything, it would go the other way around, a murder made to look like a botched illegal operation, but who would believe that tale?

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Maybe he was cheating with a Yakuza guy's wife?

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Statistics shows that a scorned woman will mutilate without killing.

Statistics show that a scorned woman will track down the man and embarrass the hell out of him in front of his friends. For a Japanese man, this means that he would have to commit sepuku to save face. Then the woman could decided whether or not to mutilate his genitals at her leisure. Anyway, that's what the statistics say.

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I have heard of the same thing that happened a long time ago in Japan. The victim must have got a huge affection and hatred and all. - It's an extreme case of a love affair.

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It could have been a woman, who caught her husband/boyfriend cheating. Perhaps he was abusive towards her. Perhaps he slept with a Yakuza’s daughter or girlfriend. Perhaps he attacked and raped a woman and either the woman or one her family members sought revenge on her attacker. Or perhaps like namabiru4me thought- maybe he had a cooking accident!

Ok, obviously it was an ‘unnatural death’ (real geniuses they are there!), but it isn't necessarily a woman. Also whoever cut of his nuts, probably killed him to- or their accomplice did. A little hard to stab yourself several times in the chest and stomach- if he was going to commit suicide as Wolfpack suggested- he would of cut his throat, his wrist, hung himself- all easier ways to kill yourself then stabbing yourself several times. And seppuku is where you slice open your stomach, not stab yourself.

And I agree with MeanRingo. If he was a serial rapist or a murder, he got what was coming. I hope he was a criminal, because I rather a bad criminal to be killed like that then an innocent man.

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And why are people talking about statistics! A guy was castrated, stabbed until he died, his nuts thrown under the bed with the knife while he bled out. Somehow, I don't think you'll find any statistics on this. Sure there are some ‘statistics’ for who would castrate a guy – most likely female- but he was also brutally murdered. To stab a person deep enough to kill them, it takes a lot of strength- most likely male. PERHAPS THERE WERE EVEN TWO PEOPLE!!!

(Oh, I know this stuff because I took forensic science classes in college and have a few friends who are CSI’s.)

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but to suffer such a thing that man may have been drugged it is not possible that he could not defend themselves

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if it may have been killed by the Mafia

in this case the man could not defend himself

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It was either a woman or his male lover. Either way, he came up short.

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The first thing I thought of when I read the headline was Sada Abe.

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But what about the man`s occupation??? I need to know!

I don't know what his occupation was, but who ever did it must have been a butcher or butcheress.

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jealous wife...cheating husband...any bets?

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gelendestrasseJan. 17, 2012 - 02:07AM JST

Maybe he was cheating with a Yakuza guy's wife?

Maybe he was cheating on a Yakuza guy's wife with a gay lover who the Yakuza guy was seeing on the side!

Just maybe.

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For cutting off the parts in question, emphatically NO.

Oh so you don't want to discuss all the men who mutilate women. Okay, how about we take about circumcision? That count for you? Prob not because you aren't willing to admit that you've got no justification for assuming it is a women. Just stereotypes of a crazy women who was screwed over by this guy. It certainly could be. Or it could be a man.

People mentioning stats but yet not posting links...

Indeed, I agree with one of the posters - I highly doubt any of you are able to find stats on this because it is very rare.

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tmarie:

" Oh so you don't want to discuss all the men who mutilate women. Okay, how about we take about circumcision? "

The case here is a mutilated man. Women are a different subject.

And circumcision is a cultural/religious thing, both the male and female version. The people who do that believe God wants it. Also a completely different topic.

As far the current case goes, odds are heavily in favour of this having been done by a female (ex) lover.

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Sada-san still lives !

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Someone check if Lorena Bobbit is in-country.

Seriously, nobody's going to bother with severing the genitals unless the attacker perceived that the guy was cheating on them or the victim was suspected of rape and the attacker applied some "street justice" to make sure he didn't impregnate anyone else. I'm guessing he was still alive when they chopped the jewels for insurance. It wouldn't be necessary if he was already dead.

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He must have refused, agreed amount paying to the Prostitute.

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rip

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This is really strange, now on tv here in Japan they are saying it may have been a drug induced rage that this dude had and he ended up killing himself?? So some psycho suicide??

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ouch

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