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The Carlos Ghosn case: What next?

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By Karyn Nishimura-Poupee

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This man "saved' Nissan by firing 20,000 workers, ands elling off at least 3 Nissan factories.

Naturally that pulled Nissan out of the resd .

However by manipulating the system this man bilked Nissan - and Japan- out of millions and millions for his personal gain. And for Renault's profit.

He NEVER had the interest of the Japanese company or Japanese workers, shareholders in mind.

H played the system with the underhanded and surreptitious collaboration of select others.

He has been exposed.

And he will have to pay.

The masquerade of his so-called "outstanding leadership has ended with a whimper.

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I know some well-paid professionals and non-citizens of Japan who live and work in Japan. They love living in Japan and probably won't ever leave at this point. But they work for foreign-affiliated firms, and over their dead bodies will they ever consider working for a Japanese domestic firm. And who can blame them after watching what has happened to Carlos Ghosn at Nissan?

I find it fascinating that living in Japan can be so great and so much fun for a foreign national, but working for a Japanese domestic firm in Japan can be so dreadful and miserable. One would think it would be in the interest of Japanese companies to narrow this gap in terms of experiences and perceptions.

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He is innocent until proven guilty.

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Japan have to admit that humans can ,make mistakes, in their hurry to arrest somebody and the prosecutors arrested Carlos. But Carlos being not able to write or read Japanese and I am sure, with people like saikawa, these people just advised him of , what they think that they hold on Carlos in the future to their own selfish needs.But to these bad people's miscalculations, the small mistake snowed ball into many big mistakes that these people know, going to court means their own death sentence. Therefore, they had to find something, I will not be surprised of what these bad Japanese back-stabbers are going to say next , which could be ................Carlos had a long tail too and could fly to the moon by himself.

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In most normal, advance countries, there is intervention by government or Head of State, when the legal system becomes devoid of common sense. Advanced democracies have this safety net knowing that there can be no such thing as Absolute Law.

This then becomes Law Reform, and dealt with by a government committee.

Japan is so incept, it could be a while before this could ever happen.

But, surely somewhere in Japan their is a judge who will actually show leadership, and understand his / her role and end this detention.

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So...the plan is to just keep him until he confesses to anything.

Lol, Just thinking out loud but the behaviour shows the Prosecution team are extremely afraid of the counter case against them Goshn can make. They seem to really need a confession.

I think unless they have actual evidence against Goshn heads are going to roll...very quietly, and very embarrassingly.

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I knew roughly about how Japan (falsely) gets a 99% conviction rate, but this is baring it all for the world to see. This repeat extension and filing of new charges is poor, why were they unable (inept?) to file it all the first time, or is it just a means to maintain the 99%+ conviction rate. Either way it is extremely disappointing a country like Japan. They can do better than this system and it should be up for reform.

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Japanese law on many matters is in urgent need of reform.

The passive electorate needs to step up to the plate.....

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Japanese detention, it’s so Kafkaesque....

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If he passed on his personal losses to Nissan, who accepted them? That person(s) should also be sitting with Ghosn in jail.

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The third offence appears to be a fraud against Nissan, and if true would normally be handled by restoration of the funds - no?  As I worked in financial institutions here, and in HR - I saw several fraud cases, and each of them was handled internally, without police involvement.

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Prosecutors are public employees while lawyers are civilians. The lawyers work for money not necessarily for human rights. It is known that many suspects got free by hiring lawyers who outsmart prosecutors not only in Japan but in U.S. as well.

It is better to let the guilty go free than to punish the innocent. Once Japan figures this out, it will truly become a 1st world country.

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Picket lines just make those that hold the keys of power snigger and laugh with contempt. We are not dealing with rationality here. Nor does everyone want the best outcome possible to be realized. It’s become a complex game of stubborn will. If there’s ever a place where picket lines don’t do jack, this is it.

Hey, at least they don’t round you up, send the tanks in or monitor the mails of of dissidents just yet.

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Peaceful protest outside the building, should be next.

Two innocent men are held against their will due to Saikawa wanting to destroy the alliance. There is no justice, everyone is just a cog.

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I believe the term in English would be, embarrassing or incomprehensible, unjust.

from a Japanese perspective Shogani, he is a foreigner.

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How can one rant about this. The great philosopher and orator, Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade would have best summed it up by slamming the desk in half and eloquently proclaiming: “what a sham, what kind of show are you guys puttin up here?” Because that’s what this is, a sham. For a country like Japan, counting itself a member of the developed world, the “good guys” so to speak, this is an absolute travesty and I can’t understand how Japanese people are defending this treatment of people who haven’t been found guilty of anything yet. They’re doing their country a disservice. Not everything should be “right or wrong my country” you know, because the authorities here are doing it to Japanese as well, resulting in countless people having their lives destroyed by signing a false confession under duress to get it over with and then having to lavish in prison for years, some for decades on death row. Wait till it happens to you and then you’ll squeal a different tune. And instead of rectifying this injustice, as the authorities here always say they will, nothing ever changes. Ok, they don’t slap you silly anymore, but for the rest, it’s same same. And they still shout at you if you don’t say what they want to hear. Been there, done that. Whether Ghosn is guilty or not, I don’t know, nobody actually seems to exactly know. He keeps denying the charges, refuses to trample on his parents picture and that is seemingly irking the prosecutors and those people are now harassing him. Presuming they are not making small talk, what is the point of asking the same questions over and over and over again for weeks on end. It’s pure harassment. It’s not the kind of justice as should be expected, in fact, it’s no justice at all and a waste of time and public money. As a tax payer in this place, you’d almost hope Ghosn is guilty of something, for if they can’t make something stick, expect the Ghosn camp to file a gigantic lawsuit against the state of Japan and guess who is going to pay for any compensation. Hint: not the people who screwed up.

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Prosecutors are public employees while lawyers are civilians. The lawyers work for money not necessarily for human rights. It is known that many suspects got free by hiring lawyers who outsmart prosecutors not only in Japan but in U.S. as well.

Nothing wrong with that last. That's what they are supposed to do, and the system is to allow them to do this, preserving their human rights. You seem to have too much blind faith in "public employees".

During the Edo period, we had a unique torture called "Ishidaki" to force the suspects confess. Having the prisoners or suspects keep kneeling position, large slaps of stone were placed on top of the prisoner’s thighs. Each stone was a meter in length and weighed about 50 kg.

In the modern world, that is not generally considered an honorable part of one nation's history.

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All detainees are given a small bright room with toilet and sink and blankets(futon) and 3 meals,, without air conditioner. During winter room must be cold. It looks like all detainees have to bear the condition. in case of sickness they can see doctor. But no Christmas cake and no wine over Holiday season. seems really to be depressed!

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With the holidays rapidly approaching, I just don't have time to nitpick this story. But it seems like one day, it's this, and the next day, it's that. Too confusing and too much detail for this time of year.

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He thought about doing it but didn't do it. . . a thought crime from 2008 !

The prosecutors and cells is the wrong approach.

They look always at "taking money", taking money to where, what was he doing with it or planning to do with it.

His daughter got married in Japan, he never left the company, in fact he joined another one, Mitsubishi.

He loved Japan and had great plans.

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Ghosn would be re-arrested again and again if prosecutors found another suspect wrongdoing every time. He would be in detention center another 10 day and another 10,,,,,,, seems forever.

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$50,000,000 fraud and he might get a suspended sentence?

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We need more time to come to the conclusion that you can’t bully a guy like Ghosn into confessing. We need another ten days because we forgot to ask him.... um......

We we need more time. This is how it’s done in Japan. What a ship of fools.

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So Japanese Law is GUILTY until you can prove your INNOCENCE. WTF!!!

If the article is correct, it states: "He is accused..." What about the evidence.

WHY? hasn't the JAFA (Japan Financial Services Agency), the supposed Japanese of the American SEC,

made any statements regarding the actions of Ghosn as CEO or Chairman? LOL

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Prosecutors are public employees while lawyers are civilians. The lawyers work for money not necessarily for human rights. It is known that many suspects got free by hiring lawyers who outsmart prosecutors not only in Japan but in U.S. as well.

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Pathetic, before detaining him might have actually got evidence? What's next, months of pressure to get a confession.

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Yubaru

Because it is their job. If lawyers attend the suspects during the investigations, it will become confusing and detention will become even longer. It is not the prosecutors that give sentences but it is at the court.

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What happens next? Well there are two large objects who both are refusing to move.

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Even my wife, who typically does not pay close attention to stories like this has been asking Why are the cops so hell bent on charging this guy? It Isnt like he is a dangerous crminal!

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