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Carole Ghosn criss-crossing world in emotional media, political campaign for husband

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Yeah, but does “wrong” matter to those that orchestrated and continue with this embarrassing pig headed display of J justice?

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Nothing wrong with a wife trying to help her husband. Don't know about Japan, but in the states a wife cannot be compelled to testify against her husband. She can if she wants to though.

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Nevertheless, she has been unable to shake off the Japanese investigators who reportedly suspect her of contacting some of the protagonists in the case to get their stories straight.

Her husband is the one going to trial here and in detention. They can suspect anything they want, as a free person she can do and go where ever she chooses, and if they want to question her again, do it in court, where the world can hear what she has to say!

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I just cannot understand why [ they ] do not feel ashamed of themselves. The backlash will last a very long time. Carl is a strong person to say the least. I hope that his wife can be successful however, what happens in Japan, stays in Japan.

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Soon as she steps back into Japan the prosecutors will undoubtedly arrest her, visa violations or something. Can't have her traveling the world exposing Japan's injustice system. That's downright regrettable.

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Carole Ghosn criss-crossing world in emotional media, political campaign for husband

... in response to smear campaign in Japan highlighted by nearly 120 days of "hostage detention" and not one confession (ahem, conviction).

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She has described that morning in several media interviews, claiming that prosecutors scoured every inch of their 50-square-meter apartment, searched her, took her passport and even accompanied her into the bathroom.

 searched her, and even accompanied her into the bathroom?? THAT'S sexual assault.

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Can't have her traveling the world exposing Japan's injustice system

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Not that Trump is moved - with Chateau Guantanamo still operating .

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All her cavorting will backfire.

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So many issues surrounding this whole ordeal yet NO ONE speaks up? Nothing from the French, nothing from Brazil, nothing from Lebanon, and of course nothing from Japan either but jesus christ I'm terrified that he will break under the mental torture and gives a forced confession, that would mean we can all be effed.

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The fact that even his own government, French, won't do anything for him, even with his cry of failing health, says it all. Don't need to wait for trial, they hanged him already in a sense.

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In a tearful interview with U.S. media, Carole said her 65-year-old husband is in poor health, exacerbated by what she described as "mental abuse" in his detention center.

If you think that's bad, how about the THOUSANDS of employees that he let go at Nissan many years ago for his own success. I'm sure they've had their share of mental health, not to mention, broken relationships that in most cases, can't be repaired.

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An inconvenient presence for the prosecutors I am sure. They are not used to transparency and accountability.

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Chico3Today 08:59 am JST

In a tearful interview with U.S. media, Carole said her 65-year-old husband is in poor health, exacerbated by what she described as "mental abuse" in his detention center.

If you think that's bad, how about the THOUSANDS of employees that he let go at Nissan many years ago for his own success. I'm sure they've had their share of mental health, not to mention, broken relationships that in most cases, can't be repaired.

Chico3 - do you have the broken down stats or links to such to support your assertion?

Like How many workers took generous early retirement packages; How many were transferred to other operations; How many were supported in finding other jobs and Yes, How many were left out on a limb?

Until you know this stuff definitively, than your argument has little basis.

Obversely one could speculate that his actions saved the company from imminent bankruptcy (according to many industry observers), thereby saving the liivelihoods of tens of thousands and allowing the company to prosper and support futher tens of thousands.

Blanket statements are just that - blankets and often wet.

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@papigiulio, it's all in the background, that's where the deals are done; Japan's only sucking itself to the whole world with it's claim to 'due process'.

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 searched her, and even accompanied her into the bathroom?? THAT'S sexual assault.

No its not. That's the job of the police. Anyone in that apartment would've been subject to the same thing regardless of gender. Going to the bathroom in the apartment that is currently being searched? Pretty high suspicions for flushing away evidence. The police were just doing their due diligence and they have every right to search you, even if you aren't under arrest. Again, someone who just throws around the term "sexual assault" without having the slightest clue what it actually is.

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In 1999, 21,000 jobs were cut. In 2002, after Nissan was nursed back from the brink of bankruptcy and the company’s fortunes were reversed for the better, Nissan started to rehire laid off workers, all under Ghosn’s tenure.

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The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 6 states:

Right to a fair trial. In the determination of his civil rights and obligations or of any criminal charge against him, everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law.

This has gone WAY beyond any "reasonable time."

All these months in solitary are a kind of torture. He deserves a trial now.

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All her cavorting will backfire.

@semperfi

That is certainly what the prosecutors are praying happens. They certainly feel uncomfortable when they can't control their trail by media smear.

Whether it has any effect on the trail is not as important as what it might do to bring pressure on repairing the badly damaged Japanese injustice system!

Ghose may be guilty or he may be innocent, that should be addressed in a fair trail. The way the prosecutors leak information to their advantage is disgusting though and I hope Carole matches them step for step!

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No its not. That's the job of the police.

Yeah maybe in China or any country which we don't have human rights.

Anyone in that apartment would've been subject to the same thing regardless of gender. Going to the bathroom in the apartment that is currently being searched? Pretty high suspicions for flushing away evidence.

The police were just doing their due diligence and they have every right to search you, even if you aren't under arrest.

No they don't. And if they do, they are violating your human rights. No one has the right to search you without consent if you are not under arrest.

Again, someone who just throws around the term "sexual assault" without having the slightest clue what it actually is.

I know EXACTLY what it is. It is YOU who doesn't seem to understand what HUMAN RIGHTS are. Disgraceful.

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If only more people would have a backbone and refuse to be searched without being arrested first.  But it is the threat of arrest that causes people with nothing to hide to assent to being searched - taking the easy way out, and then quickly on their way.

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Prosecutors have to double down, no confession no case. Japan's inept prosecutors and legal system had an internal Nissan report that started the ball rolling but apparently listed actions that were not technically illegal. Or implicated those that wrote the report. Have to incarcerate him to illicit a false confession which has not worked. Ok let's go for his family. They can release information that alludes to crime with out actually being a crime, and he announces he will retort the smear and is arrested the next day. Not a shining example of due process.

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Yeah maybe in China or any country which we don't have human rights.

Human rights are not a get out of jail free card. There is no human right that says you aren't allowed to be searched or suspected of a crime...

No they don't. And if they do, they are violating your human rights. No one has the right to search you without consent if you are not under arrest.

As I mentioned again, there isn't a human right that says anything about searching.

https://www.youthforhumanrights.org/what-are-human-rights/universal-declaration-of-human-rights/articles-1-15.html

The Police Execution of Duties Act, allows the police to search and question anyone "who is suspected on reasonable grounds of having committed or being about to commit a crime or who is deemed to possess information on a crime which has already been committed or is about to be committed, judging reasonably on the basis of unusual behavior and/or other surrounding circumstances."

On top of that, the arrest was carried out on an arrest warrant, which gives the police even more power to avoid the destruction of evidence and is applicable to anyone in the vicinity of the arrest/related to the crime committed or expected of being committed.

I know EXACTLY what it is. It is YOU who doesn't seem to understand what HUMAN RIGHTS are. Disgraceful.

As evident above, that's clearly not the case.. To avoid sound unintelligent in the future, it'd be a good idea to do your research.

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Human rights are not a get out of jail free card.

No one said it was.

There is no human right that says you aren't allowed to be searched or suspected of a crime...

If you are not suspected of a crime you shouldn't be searched. If she was suspected of a crime, why wasn't she arrested? After all, that's all her husband is, suspected of a crime. And he was arrested.

The Police Execution of Duties Act, allows the police to search and question anyone "who is suspected on reasonable grounds of having committed or being about to commit a crime or who is deemed to possess information on a crime which has already been committed or is about to be committed,

That would apply to Carlos and NOT TO Carole. And EVEN IF IT DID, the fact that it IS Japanese law doesn't mean that it isn't against human rights. After all, everything the japanese justice system has done to Carlos is violating his human rights

https://www.ag.gov.au/RightsAndProtections/HumanRights/Human-rights-scrutiny/PublicSectorGuidanceSheets/Pages/Righttosecurityofthepersonandfreedomfromarbitrarydetention.aspx

As evident above, that's clearly not the case.. To avoid sound unintelligent in the future, it'd be a good idea to do your research.

I have. If you want to support a police state and its system go ahead. I only pray that YOU get subjected to the same treatment so you can do some "research".

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As I mentioned again, there isn't a human right that says anything about searching.

> https://www.youthforhumanrights.org/what-are-human-rights/universal-declaration-of-human-rights/articles-1-15.html

Funny- the link YOU gave lists 15 rights:

11. We’re Always Innocent Till Proven Guilty. Nobody should be blamed for doing something until it is proven. When people say we did a bad thing we have the right to show it is not true. 

12. The Right to Privacy. Nobody should try to harm our good name. Nobody has the right to come into our home, open our letters, or bother us or our family without a good reason. 

The prosecutors clearly violated 11 and 12 with Carole.

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Again ksteer, do YOUR research

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The fact that even his own government, French, won't do anything for him

The French govt under Macaroon has proven to be stupendously useless so far, nothing new.

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One side story. Rich and famous, above the law. Her possible charges so far, illegally leaving japan, money laundering, interfering with witnesses.

why are the posters so bias? More and more charges so it is not as if the suspect ran through a red light late at night.

and for those conspiracy theorists who blame Nissan, France, which owns shares in Peugeot, are also building a case with a lot more evidence.

you posters remind me folk who see Bonnie and Clyde as heroes.

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11. We’re Always Innocent Till Proven Guilty. Nobody should be blamed for doing something until it is proven. When people say we did a bad thing we have the right to show it is not true. 

12. The Right to Privacy. Nobody should try to harm our good name. Nobody has the right to come into our home, open our letters, or bother us or our family without a good reason. 

The prosecutors clearly violated 11 and 12 with Carole.

I guess it's true what they say. You can't argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience... Have fun believing in fantasy land. (Also, quote a government of australia article is completely irrelevant.)

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She may be criss crossing the world but, I don't think she and husband will get much sympathy. She should try coming here to JT comments section tho.

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@ksteer, no. Someone is an idiot, but it's not him.

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Japanese court just approved Ghosn bail request (JT experts didnt see that coming)

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Might have Oked his bail but I'm guessing as soon as his wife turns up both he and she off to detention. Also didn't they claim he broke his bail conditions the day before he was due to speek? Or was that a regrettable mistake? It's not about justice at all, more would speak out but sadly they are now bed ridden and incapable of saying anything. That's what 30+ years of wrongful incarceration does. He might well be guilty of something or not. Rapists don't get this treatment nor do ex government workers who kill. Would use a magnifying glass but thats not needed it's pretty obvious without.

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I guess it's true what they say. You can't argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience... Have fun believing in fantasy land. (Also, quote a government of australia article is completely irrelevant.)

I'll let justasking answer for me:

@ksteer, no. Someone is an idiot, but it's not him.

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ghosn is lucky to have carol as his wife. she is going around to open up

the ugliness of japan jurisdiction systems.

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I believe in Karma, Japan is a good place to find the universal truth

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Ghosn is not a good french citizen. He tried to take renault out of french watching eye. The billion have disappeared in France too but everything is buried.

And the worst has not still come out for me. We still don't know who helped him. He could not have done this without any help. We all want the famous names, he promised.

I expect a link with the famous french "Karachi" file. It is a feeling. But in general, I have good intuition .

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NadAge

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Good Luck Carole. Keep going strong.

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ghosn is lucky to have carol as his wife. she is going around to open up

Indeed. Most people who get busted and locked up in Japan are not seriously rich and do not have wives articulate in English who can jet here and there showing she can "stand by my man". Similarly, the Washington Post that gave her a soapbox has no track record of giving poor, non-white women a chance to stand by their men.

Just this morning I read in the Sankei that two Japanese guys who were arrested for the non-violent crime of price fixing were finally sprung after nine months in detention. No notice of this is the English language media and certainly no opportunity for their wives to make an appeal to Trump or Macron or anyone else for that matter.

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