Celebrity doctor arrested for alleged stimulant use

You can puke from eating/drinking too much of virtually anything - the thing is not to eat or drink too much.

I agree. Same with pretty much all drugs. There are people who do periodically do heroin for recreation. That one is playing a little too close to fire for my liking, but the fact is there are people who are able to keep it to that.

I'm not trying to argue with you over the pros and cons of alcohol vs recreational drugs, or being intentionally negative, just trying to understand a perspective that has always been alien to me.

I appreciate the open, and pretty much non-judgemental questioning. And I'm happy to explain further.

A quote this all reminds me of:

“You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal f#!@ing high on drugs. The Beatles were so f#!@ing high they let Ringo sing a few tunes.”

-- Bill Hicks

you can puke from it, and almost always feel like crap the next day

You can puke from eating/drinking too much of virtually anything - the thing is not to eat or drink too much.

The only time I ever felt bad the day after drinking was that one time as a student when I drank too much. A couple of glasses of wine at dinner or the occasional single malt has no bad effects, either at the time or the next day. Nor does it need the company of someone experienced that you are comfortable with to bring you out of a bad tipple.

I'm not trying to argue with you over the pros and cons of alcohol vs recreational drugs, or being intentionally negative, just trying to understand a perspective that has always been alien to me.

I'm not sure that the promise of 'expanded consciousness' is something that would tempt me to take a trip; what I've heard of psychedelic experiences is not encouraging - for me, at least. And tales of 'bad trips' is enough to stop me wanting to try it even once.

I could see how people who have never drunk alcohol would feel the same way when they find out you can puke from it, and almost always feel like crap the next day. Why the hell would anyone ever choose to drink a poison like that?

The point is, bad trips can happen. But they are rare. It's also a bit of a negative way to phrase it. In my experience, bad trips are simply anxiety when your brain forces you to confront the reality of your own actions and behaviors, and you realize that you may have been lying to yourself. These have actually ended up positive for me every time, as I dealt with the problems after the trip; part of what made me a better person.

If you are at peace with yourself, and with people you are comfortable with, you will not have a bad trip. And if you're with someone experienced enough, they can bring you out of a bad trip. I've been on all sides of this.

Strangerland, thanks for your response.

I'm not sure that the promise of 'expanded consciousness' is something that would tempt me to take a trip; what I've heard of psychedelic experiences is not encouraging - for me, at least. And tales of 'bad trips' is enough to stop me wanting to try it even once.

Just as one bad hangover as a student taught me that alcohol is a foodstuff, not to be used as a recreational drug, and not to be over-indulged in.

Your insight into the research of the use of psychedelic drugs in therapy is enlightening.

Thank you.

Just out of curiosity, why did you do a bunch of drugs? What is the benefit? I've never taken so-called recreational drugs either, could never understand why anyone would want to.

I drink, not to forget, but just because it tastes nice and enhances the meal.

Alcohol is a drug, the only reason it's treated different is due to its legal status, not due to any difference in what it is with other drugs. It's an intoxicant, just like other drugs. It just happens to be the legal one. So any reason you give for drinking alcohol, can be an answer to your question. Why take the drug alcohol? It enhances a meal and tastes nice.

Not that I actually would agree myself - I don't enjoy the taste of alcohol. But I also rarely drink.

Why I did a bunch of drugs was because I've always been interested in expanded consciousness, pushing boundaries, testing limits, and learning more about what it means to be human. I smoked cannabis, and did a lot of different psychedelics, from LSD to psilocybin (magic mushrooms) to ecstasy, DMT, Ahuyasca, peyote. I also tried some harder drugs as well, though I was always worried about getting hooked (my father was drug addict - his choice of drugs was alcohol), so I mostly stayed away from the hard drugs.

My drug experimentation made me a better person. It made me more compassionate, better able to see things from others perspectives, and more importantly it forced me to confront my own demons and issues, coming out a more complete; a less broken person, than when I started.

But I think the biggest reason people do drugs, more than because they're cool, or because they expand consciousness, or even because they taste nice, is that they feel really, really good. And fun! A good mushroom trip can leave you in a better mindset, better able to deal with the stresses of life, for weeks after doing it. It's why they have started doing tests with people who have PTSD, and they're finding positive results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_therapy

I was kinda hoping it was that idiot plastic surgeon who has those annoying TV commercials.

If he can’t remember taking the drugs but was positive at hospital then his dose was a biggy!

I read the title and thought it could have been Dr Phil until I realized it was domestic news.

Question.

In Japan, what is the right for hospitals to test any illegal drugs or medicines ?

Is there a need for a police request or hospitals have the legal right to do it without any consent to search for the cause of collapsing like the present case ?

Monty

You know boasting about how backwards a nations policies are isn’t very nice.

High high crime you say?

Nothing wrong with taking a sample test himself, what ids the deal here?

"I drink, not to forget, but just because it tastes nice and enhances the meal."

Riiiiight... You show me your non drug addiction, and I'll show you mine.

 I did a bunch of drugs in my 20s, remember them well, and never did them for the purpose of forgetting

Just out of curiosity, why did you do a bunch of drugs? What is the benefit? I've never taken so-called recreational drugs either, could never understand why anyone would want to.

I drink, not to forget, but just because it tastes nice and enhances the meal.

@Strangerland

Like I said, I am proud of having no knowledge about drugs.

But some people are proud of taking drugs, because they think they are "cool".

But in my opinion, there are many more things in life which you can be proud of than taking drugs.

I guess this doctor took them, because of stress relief.

That's just the kind of thing people who don't actually have experience in drugs say.

Yes! And I am proud of not having experience in taking drugs.

I know. It's quite clear from your comments that you are speaking as if you know something about a topic you don't know about:

To "forget things" is the purpose of taking drugs.

A member of Kurihara’s family called 119 after he lapsed into a half-conscious state

While I do believe that our "Stimulants Control Law" is ridiculous and needs to be revised completely (no, i'm not into drugs, not even alcohol), the article says "A member of Kurihara’s family called 119 after he lapsed into a half-conscious state".

So obviously they ran tests to know what was going on. And to be honest, if it was methamphetamine, just that is pretty obvious.

That's just the kind of thing people who don't actually have experience in drugs say.

Yes! And I am proud of not having experience in taking drugs. But It seems that you are.

In my home country drugs are very high Crime.

Meth: It's not just for hillbillies!

If somebody is carried to the hospital in a "half-conscious state", I assume they will do a full set a tests to get the reason why that person is a vegetable, and then decide on the treatment

Why they would decide to test for it is another question

Maybe he was really high on the drugs.

The test can be done on urine and other bodily fluids, so it is possible they tested him in the ambulance. Why they would decide to test for it is another question, unless someone told them he had taken it, or they found it near him, how would they now it wasn’t an aneurism or something,

To "forget things" is the purpose of taking drugs.

No it's not. I did a bunch of drugs in my 20s, remember them well, and never did them for the purpose of forgetting. That's just the kind of thing people who don't actually have experience in drugs say. If anything, people who want to forget drink. Alcohol is the easiest way to forget.

@Sandy Beach Heaven

What I don’t believe is that they tested him in an ambulance on the way to a hospital.

Yes me too!

Ambulances are not doing that.

Suspended sentence!

Probably. If it's a first-time offense, why wouldn't he get a suspended sentence? And why would the legal system even want to imprison first time offenders?

Kurihara has denied the charge and quoted him as saying he doesn’t know anything about it.

To "forget things" is the purpose of taking drugs.

So he forgot that he took some. LOL

Suspended sentence!

I believe him. Could have been a set up. What I don’t believe is that they tested him in an ambulance on the way to a hospital. Ambulances in Japan are just taxis with a siren. No real medical equipment except a gurney.