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Chilean man indicted in France over 2016 murder of Japanese woman

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if he gets a guilty verdict in court, throw him to the gallows.

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Err, no. The EU actually explicitly allows the death penalty (re-introducing it in the countries that had abolished it), in the context of "quelling a riot or insurrection".

Are you sure? The "quelling a riot" phrase is part the European Convention on Human Rights, and is not a reference to a form of punishment but a legitimate use of "necessary force" that might result in death. Another legitimate use is "in defence of any person from unlawful violence"

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Zaphod and where did you read this,in a fantasy book?

The European Union rejects and is strongly opposed to death penalty,to new members to get in the Union they need high standards of human/animal rights and free of death penalty.

Before you state something incorrect inform yourself.

The EU is so committed against such barbaric use that it won’t even sell the medicines for the cocktails to make lethal injections to the US states that still have it.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2019/635516/EPRS_ATA(2019)635516_EN.pdf

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I would favor an execution of him also, should he be found guilty, but as you know in France they do not execute people.

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if he gets a guilty verdict in court, throw him to the gallows.

No they won't. France is not Japan.

.... and, he will get a fair trail. Again, France is not Japan.

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fxgai

I thinks this guy is the culprit, and hope the authorities have sufficient evidence to convict him

Yes, it certainly looks like it is him, but no the authorities do not have enough evidence. Mainly, they don´t have a body... only the drive recorder of his rental car which shows a trip from the dormitory to an isolated forest and back.

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I thinks this guy is the culprit, and hope the authorities have sufficient evidence to convict him. But only if the evidence is sufficient. On the off chance he just looks as guilty as sin but is actually innocent, it is better to err on the side of the freedom of the presumably innocent.

But i still think he is the culprit, and selfishly stole the life of the poor lady.

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@Zaphod

*only the drive recorder of his rental car which shows a trip from the dormitory to an isolated forest and back. *GUILTY as sin, this guy supposedly goes to an isolated forest with a young lady and comes back but she is missing. Guilty what did he do in the forest pick wild berries!!! Guilty I would love to hear that explaination not once but 10 times and I am sure the story will change!!

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kaimycahl

*only the drive recorder of his rental car which shows a trip from the dormitory to an isolated forest and back. *GUILTY as sin,

I too think he is guilty, however the law says innocent until proven so. Plenty of people have walked free although pretty much everyone is convinced they are guilty.

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The circumstantial evidence he has managed to build up around himself looks pretty convincing. The only thing he has in defence is his word. He can surely never be declared innocent, but in the worst case scenario they may have to let him go for lack of more direct evidence. What a waste of everyone's time and breath.

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albaleo

Are you sure? The "quelling a riot" phrase is part the European Convention on Human Rights, and is not a reference to a form of punishment

Well, that is your interpretation, but why is this footnote to the statement:

"2. No one shall be condemned to the death penalty, or executed."

At the least, this opens the door to odious interpretation.

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William77

I’m amazed by the comments above,so you guys are the judges and already sentenced a person to death,thanks the providence the European Union rejected such a crude and medieval practice like the capital execution.

Err, no. The EU actually explicitly allows the death penalty (re-introducing it in the countries that had abolished it), in the context of "quelling a riot or insurrection".

While this is a murder case, the claim that the EU has rejected the death penalty in general is false.

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I’m amazed by the comments above,so you guys are the judges and already sentenced a person to death,thanks the providence the European Union rejected such a crude and medieval practice like the capital execution.

And unlike other countries the Chilean man will be tried in France as an innocent man until proved guilty.

If that man is responsible of such a despicable act I’m confident that the French authorities will give him the right penalty.

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