Father held for beating wife, 3-month-old son in Osaka

Lovely Osaka jin

I don't want to sound like a jerk but really, 10:20pm at night and she left a 3 month old alone with that miserable failure of a father? There must be a whole lot more to this sad story for example, he is a typically irritable drunk with a permanent hang over so a baby crying is impossible for him to bare.

But really, I am all for women taking some time out from being a mum and having a rest but had he called her 2 or 3 or 4 times to come home? was she out gambling or drinking herself for hours and often? Or did he just lose it because he is a selfish SOB?

Anyway you cut it, that poor boy has the worst parents. What a way to start your life. The cops should have given him a few swings with the baton.

Great father! I'd like to do the same to him. And I will also keep on pushing you when you cry like your son did!

If she had any sense she'd have kept him out of jail and at work until she could find a way to support herself.

How many suffer? In this culture...of late night boozin, neglect, buddy or girly night outings... How many suffer? How many suffer?

lesson to father 3 month old babies cry a lot! get a parenting license!

child bashing, wife bashing, random slashings, 30,000 suicides a year, prolific drunk driving, upskirt photography, alcoholism, geriatric crime, young guys running over people because they feel the need to kill someone. Gees! Maybe there is a need for a mandatory annual psychiatric evaluation in Japan. Just, maybe!

Too much missing from this story. Where was mom when she called police? Did she leave the house because she was being beaten? Why didn't she take the baby with her? "If you don't come home early. the boy will die" Come home from work? Come home from play? Anyway, the guy is a slug and need to be put away for a long, long, long time.

This guy has a new purpose in life! He will be passed around the cell block like a peace pipe! Child abusers tend to be more 'popular' in prisons... At least the mother and child can begin to heal now!

romulus3

Would it have been better for you if this creep had hit the child while the mother was IN the house?

What, he cant settle a baby? Yeah, cos punching it is reeeeaaally going to help. Weve gotta 2-month-old son, its not rocket science, just takes some time/practice/patience.

Typically weak Japanese guy who thinks his only responsibility now is to pay the rent. Leave him, sweetheart.

Another very sad, sad case in Osaka. Luckily this time the woman called the police and saved both the baby's life and hers! I hope this idiot "father" has time to learn his lesson behind bars in jail! A-hole!

boboh

Would it have been better for you if this creep had hit the child while the mother was IN the house?

Oh yes. It would have been much much better for me. I would have enjoyed it immensely. I would have loved it more if she got a knife from the kitchen and stabbed him with it. That would have given me so much pleasure. Oh thank you for dragging such slime from where ever it exists in your mind.

romulus3

Dont get your bra strap in a twist, mate. Your first post reads like you nearly condone this creeps behaviour because it was 10.20pm and the mother was out of the house, for whatever reason, we may never know, and therefore she is somehow responsible for the situation. I was merely pointing out it doesnt matter where the mother was, hitting a 3-month-old boy is a gutless act anywhere, anytime. The mother is not responsible for this creeps actions, as your first post mildly suggests.

About time they started doing something about domestic violence. Been a huge issue for ages.

That being said, I do have to wonder why the mother wasn't with the child so late at night. Rather odd for a Japanese women to be away from a child so young and so late.

The mother is not responsible for this creeps actions, as your first post mildly suggests.

no. thats just they way your mind thinks. There must be a whole lot more to this sad story

missed that did you whilst reading my subliminal misogynism?

I do have to wonder why the mother wasn't with the child so late at night.

I'll put my money on Pachinko!

romulus3

i don`t think its subliminal misogyny thats your problem. I think, blaming the victim, thats your problem.

DONT HIT KIDS, DONT HIT YOUR WIFE, DON`T BLAME THE VICTIM

@Techall

You're right! Unfortunately, as so many times, JAPANTODAY is giving us foreigner just half of the story. As you, I would like to have you questions answered.

boboh

I think, blaming the victim, thats your problem

I never blamed the baby for anything. Quite clearly I showed hate for the father. I just asked where was the mother and where is the rest of the story? 10:20 pm at night and she left her 3 month old with a guy who commits acts of violence? why? what was she doing? was she gambling or running for her life? was she drinking or out buying nappies? where is the rest of the story? You cannot rule out the possibility that she can take some of the blame because you do not have the full facts. However, anyone who punches a kid in the mouth should be thrown to the lions and anyone who leaves a hapless child to the mercy of a raging, out of control, brute deserves a good old fashioned flogging.

romulus3

You blamed her because she wasn`t there 24/7.

And the mother is a victim too, buddy, or didn`t you read all the headline.

You blamed her because she wasn`t there 24/7.

where? I just asked where she was and what she was doing. Its a valid question. Do you think that they just met 4 months ago and that the stalk dropped them off a little basket so she had absolutely no idea about what this animal is capable of? no prior warning? no shots over the bow? Nothing? Is that realistic? Did she choose to stay in a house of violence? did she choose to leave her child with a man prone to rage? These are valid questions. Its not blaming her because these is not enough information but then if you chose to read selected lines, I guess you can make anything fit your theory and mandate.

Why do these types even marry ? Women must be so lonely or desperate in this country to even get involved with that type of man.

romulus3

You just dont get it, do you? IT DOESNT MATTER WHY SHE WASNT THERE. SHE WAS OUT. It doesnt matter if she was working a bar in Roppongi, if she was doing charity work Saitama, flipping burgers in Ometsando, drinking in Shibuya, pachinko in Kawasaki (whoops, dont know Osaka at all, but you get the gist). The woman and her baby didnt deserved to be beaten. Why put the spotlight on the victim, the mother, romulus3? Are you the type to wag your finger and say "Tsch, tsch, bad mother".

And don`t you mean "the stork", as in the bird?

You both have solid points. To me its a social problem...

Awe, c'mon! This guy deserves everything he gets and more. The mother's actions 'may' have been wrong, but none of you were there to make the call. It was impossible for the mother to actually predict this nutcase would punch a three month old baby. There is a very large social problem in Japan and it goes much deeper than domestic violence.

Definitely a social problem here. I agree with BoBoh here. Romulous3 your posts read as if it were the mother fault. The man and the woman in this article were both the parents of this child, so obviously if the mother was out the father watches the child and vice versa unless they have a sitter. We don’t have all the facts but you don’t punch a child just because your significant other is not home at 10pm....you might want to re-read your posts or try writing them better-

Time to get this scum bum, tie him to a post at the Osaka square, and horse whip him. Then toss him in a cell where a guy twice his size will beat him every day for three years.

How is asking questions of the where abouts, state and condition of the other parent blaming them? Its simply trying to get to the bottom of it instead of calling in the lynch mob for just one parent. Theres plenty of rope to hang them both if indeed the case may warrant it. we are talking about a 3 month child getting smacked in the head. if both were to blame, both should be punished. There are questions that need to be answered.

Counter to that, when a mother kills herself and the child, every single poster asks where was here husband? did she have no support and then even drag the womans parents, friends, social services, doctors and mental health care workers, and Japanese culture into the argument.

Now a man hits his kid, which is appalling, and he is the only one worthy of disgust? Maybe that is the case here but maybe its not. Maybe both parents are worthy of disgust and the article leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

I agree, so let the whipping begin.

This story is not very clear...“If you don’t come home early, the boy will die.” Where was the mother, was she out? Was father alone with baby? Where was Mom? If he was alone with baby, he couldn't do much about. If his wife was at home, than to avoid such issue, he should go out for a while. Story is not giving enough information, or outlined promptly.

I don't care what she was doing out. There is never an acceptable reason to punch a baby.

how do you feel if your japanese wife punch at you and your baby? just because you dont have a job,or no income,only a cryng child in your arms..it means in my point a bad way to treat a wife..nobody told this little 3 old boy to get burn,they create it,,and if they dont know how to deal with it well they have to LEARN.

unemployment,desilution,lose of faith in the future,many of this problems bring people to lose control,specially when money is tight to find.only a sick person can beat a 3 moths old child,or somebody in very deep stressful situation... by the way.sorry for the baby...

romulus, Boboh is right. You dont know anything about the mother and what she was doing (other than she was beaten as well) . Blaming her by guilt of association is just plain bizarre.

i 100% agree with romulus. If this mother was aware of the violent behaviors of her husband, why the hell wasn't she there for the kid? If it were my child (which I would never be married to a man like this in the first place) but i would take him with me EVERYWHERE if I couldn't get out of such an abusive situation. It's your damn child. Nothing you do can be more important then the safety of your child. So yes, it DOES make a difference WHERE she was when these threats were happening. She better have a damn good excuse, like being hit by a car, if she wasn't there when he was threatening to hurt the child if she wasn't there early. I'm not saying that it is okay to hit a child if your wife isn't at your beck-and-call, but I am saying the mother does have some part to blame. In abusive situations (imo, don't shoot me for saying them :)) I think that the "victim" really is the one to blame (that is--the adult, not the child) because they are fully capable of walking out on their own. They are simply too afraid, or too desperate to do so. Even if it's a "oh I'll kill you if you leave me" great! go to work, super market anything, and call the police, get their asses arrested before they can touch you. What happened here is disgusting, this guy deserves to slowly die... painfully and slowly, but I have to agree, where the hell was the mother?

The big problem is "sick" men who don't know that you dont hit/abuse women & children

I did know a woman who married a guy who was all love and light when they were courting but once the rings were on he became an ogre. And not the Disney kind. Would hit her, call her the "c" word in front of the family, etc. She never had kids with him and got out largely because of a supportive family who had some local pull to get the job done. So yeah, people can get fooled. There seems to be some switch called "marriage" that turns some people from respectful helpmeet to vengful abuser. It does happen. I'm just glad we're not reading that mother and child are dead already.

oops, I meant ARE NOT dead already. Sorry.

cortasaurus, please show me where in the story it says the woman was aware of her husbands violent tendencies and how she knew he would beat the child?

According to police, the mother called police, telling them she also had been beaten by her husband.

I took this as meaning either of two things: 1) when she came home the husband beat her and she called the police, or 2) when she called the police, she informed them that he had beaten her before.

Now, this article gives us next to nothing to go on, but IF the second one is true, then I have to agree with Romulus: victims can sometimes bear responsibility for what happens. For example, a woman who thinks "I can put up with him beating me as long as he's not beating the kid" might well also rationalize "I can go out and do X because I know he won't hurt the kid." But for anyone who would beat their children's mother, it's really only a matter of time before they make that transition.

Is she a victim? Does she deserve pity? Absolutely. And in Japan it must be especially hard to get away from a deranged spouse. But IF she knew already that he was violent, I say shame on her for waiting until he nearly killed the baby to do anything about it. "Gaman" is not good when you are endangering someone else by staying put.

Thats a big IF since, as u say, we have nothing to go on.

Exactly. IF she was just out for a much-needed movie and a pint of Ben & Jerry's with a girl friend and the husband couldn't handle taking care of the kid for an evening, then what I said before goes out the window. I wonder why they even bother writing these articles sometimes, for all the information they put in them...

BBLeo:

" This story is not very clear...“If you don’t come home early, the boy will die.” Where was the mother, was she out? Was father alone with baby? Where was Mom? If he was alone with baby, he couldn't do much about. If his wife was at home, than to avoid such issue, he should go out for a while. Story is not giving enough information, or outlined promptly. "

And just what additional information would make punching 3-month old baby in the face OK, in your esteemed opinion?

WilliB,

Excellent post, exactly wot i was saying in previous posts.

romulus3 and boboh,

i've been reading both of your comments. i see what both of you are saying. it seems to me that romulus is saying that because of her choosing him, and her being out, she is partly responsible for what happened. mind you, that seems to me to be a far different thing than saying it's her fault that it happened. i believe that her decisions up to this point have led up to this horrible act.

although she may have indirectly led to the event, he, and he alone is at fault for the act itself. i hope karma catches up with him, and she makes better choices. but we all know how life goes, and there's a good chance she won't learn.