Anti-stalking orders proving no safety guarantee for victims

"Anti-stalking orders proving no safety guarantee for victims"

Police issued a warning to Terauchi in November and in December banned him from approaching Kawano based on the stalker regulation law. Police regularly patrolled outside Kawano's residence for about 10 nights last November. Kawano was also given an emergency alert device by the police.

The title seems to imply that there should be some kind of "safety guarantee" provided. Isn't that quite a difficult task unless the government passes a law that requires a police bodyguard who is able to be by her side 24 hours a day? According to the article the police did not ignore the problem and made quite an effort to prevent this creep from coming into contact with the victim. Maybe more could have been done but at the same time, maybe more was done but it isn't being accurately reported.

Anti-stalking orders proving no safety guarantee for victims

Why anyone think it would work? It just a warning to future perpetrator no more than that.

High time to put a tracker or auto alarm on stalkers as soon as he nears the victims alarm goes off blowing stalkers presence

Anti-stalking orders proving no safety guarantee for victims

What good are orders or laws when the police don’t enforce any of them anyway?

Nor do they take cries for help any seriously.

seriously?

What is the use of a police ban?! All stalkers need be arrested ! And educated against stalking. Until they pass their final exams with flying colours. And that day may and, could mean: years and years and years.

Sad story. But police in most democratic countries are restrained by the law as to what they can do. In this case the Fukuoka Police did take the matter seriously and took actions as the law permits. Unfortunately criminals do not care about laws. Same situation exists in other countries where a Court Order may be in place to keep a suspect away from a victim, but they just don't care.

Shogun36, that applies to so many laws in this country.

This is not a one-odd incident. These ‘jilted lover’ murders happen far too often in Japan. The amount of stalking incidents is astonishing. Nearly every Japanese woman I met over the twenty years I lived in Japan had stories of staking, violence and threats. Stronger laws aren’t going to fix it. It’s a cultural problem related to bullying and intimidation. The very same methods used to discipline kids and teenagers both at home and in school. Most Japanese men don’t grow up past thirteen. Women are an easy target for the cowardly children.

The System and the Police FAILED this mother, what a shame.

High time to put a tracker or auto alarm on stalkers as soon as he nears the victims alarm goes off blowing stalkers presence

... made the stalker wear a body camera at his own expense. Or a shock collar or something.

How would you expect the police to legally do this? It's not like he was on parole or anything.

The System and the Police FAILED this mother, what a shame.

That's easy to say, but really what can they do? 20,000 police officers escorting potential victims 24 hours a day?

Unfortunately, I can only think of some people (especially women) staying in a relationship they don't want to be in in order to avoid stalking situations like these.

Terauchi stole Ms Kawano’s smartphone so why didn’t the police take him into custody and charge him as those that steal a 100 yen rice ball from a supermarket are?

Terauchi was a constant nuisance and well known to the police and had been warned.

Something is wrong with the application of the law in Japan when it is not being used to protect citizens but is being used only as a means of social control.

High time to put a tracker or auto alarm on stalkers as soon as he nears the victims alarm goes off blowing stalkers presence

And what about when it's a false claim? Of course, that won't be the norm, but it will happen. Should people be considered guilty before being proven innocent when they are accused of stalking?

JT Staff - Please stop allowing people to post "Japan is safe" - it is a "model minority" stereotype about Japan and presents a false narrative and ignores crimes against women, children, and the elderly

JT Staff - Please stop allowing people to post "Japan is safe"

It's one of the safest countries on the planet. Why U hate the truth bro?

https://www.visionofhumanity.org/maps/#/ (Select 'Safety and Security)

I find stalking particularly appalling because its constant psychological and physical harassment of women by emotionally infantile men.

The laws need to be stronger - people deserve better protection and outcomes than this.

Anti-stalking orders proving no safety guarantee for victims

What good are orders or laws when the police don’t enforce any of them anyway?

Nor do they take cries for help any seriously.

seriously?

Shogun36, that applies to so many laws in this country.

agree with you both

Obviously, anti- stalking orders are of little actual use.

It is time to include anti-assault orders as well.

Strangerland - It's one of the safest countries on the planet. 

This is a very subjective statement. Yes, petty crime is low, street violence is low and gun crime is virtually unheard of. When these statistics alone are compared Japan does have a low crime rate. However, when one starts to count the in-family mass-murders, the corporate mass-murders and the violence against women, children and the elderly you get a very different picture of Japan. Japan is a safe place if you are a middle aged man. However, if you are a woman, child, elderly or receiving care it is not a safe place at all.

This is a very subjective statement. Yes, petty crime is low, street violence is low and gun crime is virtually unheard of. When these statistics alone are compared Japan does have a low crime rate. However, when one starts to count the in-family mass-murders, the corporate mass-murders and the violence against women, children and the elderly you get a very different picture of Japan. Japan is a safe place if you are a middle aged man. However, if you are a woman, child, elderly or receiving care it is not a safe place at all.

My feelings exactly. Agree 100% Lindsay.

If a woman do.not want have anything to do with you,like the song say ,it Time Too Move On,It Time Too Move On

Instead of the police waving a finger at these recidivists, maybe a baton would be more effective.

StrangerlandToday 02:12 am JST

t's one of the safest countries on the planet. Why U hate the truth bro

Why U always accuse women of lying about male violence, bro?

LindsayToday 07:29 am JST

This is a very subjective statement. Yes, petty crime is low, street violence is low and gun crime is virtually unheard of. When these statistics alone are compared Japan does have a low crime rate. However, when one starts to count the in-family mass-murders, the corporate mass-murders and the violence against women, children and the elderly you get a very different picture of Japan. Japan is a safe place if you are a middle aged man. However, if you are a woman, child, elderly or receiving care it is not a safe place at all

Exactly. I'm so tired of men telling woman we are exaggerating or lying when we point out how pervasive crimes against women are.

There are no easy answers to societal problems that have existed since the beginning of time. It seems to me that the police did what they could but when someone is out for blood, even famous figures with bodyguards can be gotten to, and fairly easily sometimes.

Japan is an incredibly safe place for women although they face traditional values especially in many workplaces. Both men and women in Japan are stalked and stalkers, usually won’t hit the headlines as much when it is women as they are less likely to use violence than men, other tactics come into play. Also intimidation and/or violence against men by women is often dismissed in Japan as it is in many countries.

Men are more likely to indulge in this ghastly behaviour but to state this is a man on woman problem only is ludicrous and ignoring the evidence.

Injustices happen against people and groups in any nation, but anyone claiming this is a dangerous country for men or women compared to most countries is living under a delusion.

falseflagsteveToday 03:13 pm JST

Japan is an incredibly safe place for women although they face traditional values especially in many workplaces.

No country is safe for women. And it's exactly the traditional values that make it less safe. Sexual assault isn't taken seriously here. Rape and other types of assault are very very under-reported because women get treated so badly by the system. And the sentences for sex crimes are minimal, and that's when there's a guilty verdict.

Women know this. Ask any woman if she feels safe walking home at night. Ask women if they feel safe riding the train.

The other headline here is a police officer who was arrested for groping.

When we see headlines where those who are supposed to protect us are themselves perpetrators, that's when we know there is a huge problem.

And it's always men who say "Japan is so safe for women". Women aren't saying that. Does that tell you anything?

Girl in tokyo

What you say is clear to me, incredibly so. You appear to have a chip on your shoulder regarding Japan and men. I stated that Japan is safe, not just for women. The most likely to suffer physical assault in Japan and all G7 nations are young males and men of all ages are the most likely to be victims. Of course this is different regarding sexual offences which are a terrible thing but are not as rampant as you suggest.

I live with a woman who is not afraid to walk alone at night, I know this because I just asked her and we live in central Osaka.

People often perceive reality as different than it is from those they mix with and the media they consume. An example is those who still treat Covid like the plague and live in fear.

Nowhere in earth is totally safe for anyone but it’s not a dangerous place compared to the rest of the world for men or women.

Women know this. Ask any woman if she feels safe walking home at night.

I personally know a lot of women who feel perfectly safe walking home at night - even past midnight. Maybe it depends on where you live, among other possible factors.

I'm not saying Japan is safe - or not safe - for women, relative to other countries or otherwise. But I do know a lot of women who say it is (safe).

Men lecturing to women that Japan is safe for women is all you need to know here.

A man posted "I know women that says she feel safe in Japan" - is all we need to know this is just a gaijin pushing a model minority narrative of Japan

Travelbangajin

And your point is? A man can’t see and understand his surroundings]? Been here almost 22 years now. Travelled the world, think I have good knowledge of what safety is and so do others. Serious crimes are low in Japan especially compared with the West, it’s facts backed up by data.

Not seen anyone lecturing here apart from you and the resident 3rd wave feminist TBH

Kikai

In calling somewhere safe it’s judged by looking worldwide. Women have less to fear from serious crimes here and so do men.

The foreign women that come here going on about being in fear are delusional or seeking attention. It’s nit the norm here whatever they say

It's one of the safest countries on the planet. 

This is a very subjective statement.

No, it's not a subjective statement. It's been qualified. I posted the link earlier:

https://www.visionofhumanity.org/maps/#/ (Select 'Safety and Security)

Now whether or not you feel safe is your own feeling. But Japan is objectively one of the safest countries on the planet.

when one starts to count the in-family mass-murders, the corporate mass-murders and the violence against women, children and the elderly you get a very different picture of Japan

People make this claim, but no one ever backs it up with numbers. What it usually ends up being is an echo chamber of foreigners telling other foreigners that Japan is dangerous to women, the elderly and children, and then they repeat it to other foreigners, who say 'yeah I've heard that'.

Japan is particularly safe, even if you are a man, woman or child.

A man posted "I know women that says she feel safe in Japan" - is all we need to know this is just a gaijin pushing a model minority narrative of Japan

How is this any valid than a woman who says she doesn't feel safe? They are both anecdotal, and neither of them can be an accurate representation of society as a whole due to an insufficient sample size. That's why people's "feelings" are irrelevant, as the same situation could result in some people being fine, and others being afraid, and actual numbers are required.

falseflagsteveJan. 22 03:28 pm JST

Girl in tokyo

What you say is clear to me, incredibly so. You appear to have a chip on your shoulder regarding Japan and men. I stated that Japan is safe, not just for women.

I see. Pointing out that sex crimes against women is under-reported means I have a chip on my shoulder and hate men. When a man tries to downplay the issue of sexual assault it makes me wonder about his motivations.

The most likely to suffer physical assault in Japan and all G7 nations are young males and men of all ages are the most likely to be victims. Of course this is different regarding sexual offences which are a terrible thing but are not as rampant as you suggest.

Only 4% of sexual assaults are reported. And that's the count for rape.

We also know that women who are groped on trains often don't say a word and just go about their day.

It's endemic.

And what's funny about you trying to use that stat is that the people hurting men are ... men. I mean, did you think that was a good counter-argument? Because that's absolutely hilarious.

I live with a woman who is not afraid to walk alone at night, I know this because I just asked her and we live in central Osaka.

And your point is what? You think that because a woman who lives with you, a man who continually downplays the issue of sexual assault, is going to tell you the honest truth about how she feels? Come on. You're calling me a man-hater for pointing this out. I wonder what you would say to her if she disagreed with you.

People often perceive reality as different than it is from those they mix with and the media they consume. An example is those who still treat Covid like the plague and live in fear.

Ah, a covid-deniar too. That makes total sense.

Nowhere in earth is totally safe for anyone but it’s not a dangerous place compared to the rest of the world for men or women.

First you argue that it's men who are at the most risk (from other men, of course) now you try to argue that since Japan is safer than other countries, the women in Japan shouldn't complain that they don't feel safe.

I wonder, when women in, say, the US talk about how they don't feel safe, are you going to pull Afganistan out of your pocket to use to upbraid them?

As if women in Japan are walking about thinking, "Well we are so lucky not to be in the US! Whew! I think I'll totally relax my guard now!

StrangerlandToday 05:25 am JST

> How is this any valid than a woman who says she doesn't feel safe? They are both anecdotal, and neither of them can be an accurate representation of society as a whole due to an insufficient sample size. That's why people's "feelings" are irrelevant, as the same situation could result in some people being fine, and others being afraid, and actual numbers are required.

Yeah, us wimmins are just letting our emotions get away from us. Our little lady-brains are so full of emotions that we can't accurately judge whether it's safe to walk home at night though a park. You'd better give me your phone number, Strangerland, so that the next time I have to make a decision about my safety I can call you to tell me what I should do, because obviously, women can't be trusted to make their own decisions based on their past experience and need an oh-so-logical MAN to tell us what to do.

StrangerlandToday 05:23 am JST

No, it's not a subjective statement. It's been qualified. I posted the link earlier:

What you need to do is re-calculate, because only 4% of sexual assaults are reported.

Now whether or not you feel safe is your own feeling. But Japan is objectively one of the safest countries on the planet.

I'm sure when women in Japan are raped, that is what they are thinking - how incredibly lucky they were to have been on of the few few few women who experienced crime in Japan.

People make this claim, but no one ever backs it up with numbers.

The number is 4%. I have given that number quite often but funny that you never remember it from post to post.

Yeah, us wimmins are just letting our emotions get away from us.

If you think that's a correct characterization of what I said, then you clearly don't have great reading comprehension. My comment wasn't limited to women at all, and included men:

That's why people's "feelings" are irrelevant, as the same situation could result in some people being fine, and others being afraid, and actual numbers are required.

Been here almost 22 years now. Travelled the world, think I have good knowledge of what safety is and so do others. Serious crimes are low in Japan especially compared with the West, it’s facts backed up by data.

I've been in Japan 30 years and I've also traveled the world, from North America to Europe to India and the Middle East. I am pretty sure that I'm cognizant of the dangers women face far more than you are, Mr. Man.

The foreign women that come here going on about being in fear are delusional or seeking attention. It’s nit the norm here whatever they say

You are right. It's totally for the attention that one gets on an anonymous forum. Where I post a few times every week or so. Yeah, that makes complete sense. It's clearly only for the attention one gets in a dead thread on a new site. Right-o.

What you need to do is re-calculate, because only 4% of sexual assaults are reported.

And only 87% of statistics are made up.

So based on what some people believe is that women can NEVER do no wrong, they don't lie to get their way/revenge/put men behind bars, play the victim when in many cases they are the aggressor, they never kill men for greed or personal gains, kill their children and blame it on other races, stalk men, and the only thing men do as soon as we wake up is think of ways to continuously oppress women like its the 1930s, attack them as soon as we see them, make ANY woman we see on a train or crowded area our main target for groping and anything negative. Am I in your ballpark frame of thinking here? Basically ALL MEN ARE BAD.

I am a woman living in Japan, and I can say that I feel much safer than when I lived in my home country of the USA. I do, however, live in the very rural prefecture of Kumamoto. I do frequent Fukuoka though... I'm quite often near and around Hakata Station. Spooky.

And your point is what? You think that because a woman who lives with you, a man who continually downplays the issue of sexual assault, is going to tell you the honest truth about how she feels? Come on. You're calling me a man-hater for pointing this out. I wonder what you would say to her if she disagreed with you.

So let me guess... all my female friends lied to me? I don't recall ever downplaying the issue of sexual assault.

I've been in Japan 30 years and I've also traveled the world, from North America to Europe to India and the Middle East. I am pretty sure that I'm cognizant of the dangers women face far more than you are, Mr. Man.

And yet some people complain that Japan is so misogynistic, and all the bad things all men do and this and that and rape and groping and the next. I heard the island of Themyscira is the best place for all women! No men at all!

For those of you who disagree with the belief that Japan is one of the safest countries in the world, out of the near 200 or so countries that do exist, can you name 10 countries that you feel are much safer?