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@OssanAmerica

Please don't spread false information.

He is innocent until proven guilty.

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Go directly to jail; do not pass go, do not collect $200.

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bokudaApr. 22  11:53 pm JST

Ghosn is not guilty of any crime yet.

Call him a criminal is incorrect.

Ghosn is presently guilty of bailjumping and violating Japanese immigration laws. This is all verified by the American defendants. Ghosn will refuse to go to France to face thiose charges, so a default judgemet against him will be entered. He will absolutely become a convicted criminal amd a fugutive from justice.

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Infallibility is for God only.

Are you saying that prosecutors are Gods?

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He said he fled because he did not believe he would get a fair trial in Japan, where prosecutors have a nearly 99 percent conviction rate in cases that go to trial.

In the first place, those who have committed a crime should be arrested, and those who have not committed a crime should never be arrested. In other words, ideally, the probability of conviction should be 100%. In many countries other than Japan, the probability of conviction is over 90% as well.

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JT should perhaps refrain from posting unreliable information or call the article an opinion piece with a disclaimer.

Ghosn was never ‘disgraced’

Surely,, he was a potential victim of injustice?

He said he fled because he did not believe he would get a fair trial in Japan, where prosecutors have a nearly 99 percent conviction rate in cases that go to trial.

So, a one percent chance of being found innocent-those odds are not encouraging…

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the disgraced auto tycoon

Why was he disgraced??? When was this ' fact ' established and by whom????

Junk journalism , appalling.

Yes, as usual very biased.

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Lock him up.

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Ghosn, the master chess player, has found himself to be checkmated. There are at least two other jurisdictions contemplating indicting him in addition to France and Japan. He is confined to Lebanon for life amidst the bombed out city plagued with power and water outages. The proverbial out of the frying pan and into the fire. Se la vie.

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@ RodneyApr. 22  08:20 pm JST

2 years in France for the wedding and corruption, extradite to Holland for 2 yrs inside for the apartment scam, then on to Japan. 2 years for skipping bail, and 7 years for corruption. His wife, 5 years in the US prison for money laundering and His son in USA, who took $20million to 3 years inside . Plus fines and asset freezes for all.

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Sounds like the road map.

Gonna cost Ghosn his chandeliers et al.

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He just cannot make his own rules, right or wrong. What if everybody jumped bail and fled to another country just because they had money. Hope he gets it from the behind in prison.

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Semper Fi,it was ex US service person, that help spring him from Japan

Indeed- Michael Taylor -brilliant operative. Helped many others in. exigent life threatening situations

However - he did it believing Ghosn was innocent

Ghosn never thanked him.

Not a word.

NADA

Got his 1 million and Arrivederci

Now Taylor and is son are doing prison time.

Kelly (Ghosn associate) got a suspended sentence ( mercifully)

The pilots and airline staff involved with his escape are doing time in Tukey prisons.

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France would not indict over a frivolous misuse of funds-

France has indisputable evidence of serious financial malfeasance on Ghosn's part

They froze all Ghosn's assets long ago.

He is running out of money - consider inflation rate in Lebanon is over 200% and their money is worth nothing.

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Semper Fi,it was ex US service person,that help spring him from Japan

They were ex-Green Berets, not Marines. So, “De Oppresso Liber.”

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@gabor fabricius

Ghosn is not guilty of any crime yet.

Call him a criminal is incorrect.

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Ghosn is a criminal and should be in jail.

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Semper Fi,it was ex US service person,that help spring him from Japan

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.

the noose is tightening.

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Can't wait for Ghosn to make whatever response despite knowing you Ghosn fanboys would never admit your mis--judgement even if French justice could prove it by giving him guilty verdict.

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The victims in all this are the workers at Nissan and Renault. Ghosn cut their wages so that he could hire out the Louvre for a party in which all guests, incliding gusts from the highest levels of the French state, were dressed up as 18th century aristocrats. Of course he knows what happened to 18th century French aristocrats. He chose that theme to send a message to the workers, 95% of the population and the creators of all wealth. The message was, "you are utterly powerless. The richest 1% has beaten you down and dominated you to such an extent, we can taunt you without fear of an uprising."

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For all those who suggest Ghosn hand himself over to France read the article... it states Ghosn is restricted under a judicial ban on leaving Lebanese territory this means he ain't going to France even if he wanted to. (unless he sneaks out ) but that would likely blacklist him from returning to Lebanon.

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Today  05:51 pm JST

Similar trials based on Japan's evidence where held in the States and Ghosn was acquitted on them all.

No, this is completely false. There have been no trials or acquittals of Ghosn in the US. The only action taken in the US was the SEC indictment of Ghosn in relation to the unreported compensation allegations, which he paid $1 million and accepted a 10 year director ban to settle. 

These new French charges are in relation to the more serious allegations of kickbacks from Nissan customers.

Here’s the thing, he was never actually paid

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GaijinjlandToday  05:31 pm JST

Ghosn created a prison for himself. He’s never going to set foot out of Lebanon again. Maybe he would have not received a fair trial in Japan but he did himself no justice absconding bail. At least Kelly stayed the course and cooperated.

umm no. Kelly was in the US awaiting surgery when Nissan called him and asked him to attend an urgent meeting. Nissan called the authorities when he landed in Japan. He was apprehended in a snatch and grab at a stop on the way to what he thought was a meeting. The car stopped, driver got out, then they raided him. The entire debacle is worthy of a blockbuster movie

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It seems to me French prosecutors have strong confidence to be able to make Ghosn guilty in court about his wrongdoings in France and Japan, otherwise they wouldn't issue the warrant against him if they don't have confidence.

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Ghosn is 68, thus doesn't have many years of life left. He has plenty of cash and will just see his days out in Lebanon. He has no reason to go to France, I'm sure he has had enough of this total farce.

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Time to face ze music.

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Some one is cooking the books!

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Well unless he allege that he won't get a fair trial in France also, he should submit himself to the court's jurisdiction

I agree. France does not take hostages. Any arrest warrant issued from Japan for his return should go straight into the waste paper basket.

(Better still, paper re-cycler, Japan have wasted enough trees with regards to this)

By the way, have Japan compensated Mr.Ghosn yet for his unlawful detention in Japan. (As recommended by the UN).

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Else his admirers might be disappointed

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Well unless he allege that he won't get a fair trial in France also, he should submit himself to the court's jurisdiction

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he did not believe he would get a fair trial in Japan, where prosecutors have a nearly 99 percent conviction rate in cases that go to trial.

and what percent of the rich, powerful and celebrities only get a slap on the wrist(suspended sentence) after going to trial?

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An arrest warrant does not make the Japanese prosecutors right about anything. I appreciate that in Japan an arrest automatically means Guilty, but people in Japan must understand that other countries does not have such a primitive attitude to law as Japan does.

Ghosn will answer to your point as he once mentioned he wished to receive fair justice in France.

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It appears that the Japanese prosecutors were right after all.

Poor Ghosn can no longer live anywhere but in Lebanon.

An arrest warrant does not make the Japanese prosecutors right about anything. I appreciate that in Japan an arrest automatically means Guilty, but people in Japan must understand that other countries does not have such a primitive attitude to law as Japan does.

I'm sure that Mr.Ghosn is very happy where he is, and from Lebanon will contribute more to mankind than Japans backward legal system ever can.

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Abide the law, don't even think to cheat.

Sounds exactly like what a CCP official would say.

If you don't see the two tiered legal system in Japan, you are choosing to keep your eyes blind.

AFAIK, France has an extradition treaty with Japan so if he ever sets foot in France, that journey will end in a prison cell in Japan.

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Cost of the party must be criminal if he didnt want to pay out of pocket

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Part of the charges,:

Since Ghosn’s dramatic escape from Japan, his main legal risks have largely shifted to France, where he is accused of using Renault funds to pay for a yacht and his wife’s birthday party. 

Per jtimes

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2 years in France for the wedding and corruption, extradite to Holland for 2 yrs inside for the apartment scam, then on to Japan. 2 years for skipping bail, and 7 years for corruption. His wife, 5 years in the US prison for money laundering and His son in USA, who took $20million to 3 years inside . Plus fines and asset freezes for all.

in return, Japan should promise EU to reform its justice system.

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Ossanamerica

When a person who is released on bail flees the country, and has 2 outstanding arrest warrants issued by 2 countries, that;s pretty much what we call "disgraced",

How does that make him disgraced? He has not been convincted of anything, he is simply accused. Guilty until proven guilty,ever heard of that??. Once he is convicted then label him disgraced , until then , it's pure conjecture.

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It appears that the Japanese prosecutors were right after all.

Poor Ghosn can no longer live anywhere but in Lebanon.

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Ghosn fanbois must be having heart attacks. No JP government to blame for this one.

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samuraivunylToday  05:22 pm JST

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the disgraced auto tycoon

Why was he disgraced???

When a person who is released on bail flees the country, and has 2 outstanding arrest warrants issued by 2 countries, that;s pretty much what we call "disgraced",

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You folks too scared of Japanese police and justice... lol. Abide the law, don't even think to cheat.

You will be fine then. This place is not CCP China and you know it.

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justaskingToday  06:35 pm JST

Just because everyone is treated the same, doesn’t mean it is just. Equality is not Justice.

You are seriously misinformed. Equality is Justice, Inequality is Injustice.

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Note to the editor. A responsible newspaper would not describe someone who is facing charges as 'disgraced'. He has not been disgraced. Not yet, anyway.

I don't believe he would receive fair trial in Japan, a country with a suspect record of detaining and removing unwanted non-Japanese.

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Good! Ghosn during his time at Nissan fired over 21000 staff all for corporate profits the guy is a dog and I hope he gets what's coming to him!

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So what's his excuse going to be this time? That he can't get a "fair trial" in France? LOL

Mr.Ghosn has not commented yet, so no so-called excuses have yet been made. One thing though, he will get a fair trial in France, unlike Japan.

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when they are treated exactly the same way as all the other Japanese inmates.

And inmates in NK are treated the same way, too. Are you claiming their system is okay?

Putin poisons his enemy as his default, are you claiming that’s okay too?

Just because everyone is treated the same, doesn’t mean it is just. Equality is not Justice.

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So what's his excuse going to be this time? That he can't get a "fair trial" in France? LOL

He'll probably not surrender for fear of getting a fair trial Hahaha

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Similar trials based on Japan's evidence where held in the States and Ghosn was acquitted on them all.

No It was completely different charge. Update yourself pal.

Ossan, have to disagree with you on this one. Extended periods of solitary confinement ( you have to stay seated in your cell I believe, can’t even do squats to keep your spirits and strength up ) unable contact the outside world , couldn’t even talk to his wife,

Proper judgement to make him unable to his wife, wasn't it?

A judicial system that seems to be deliberately and agonizingly slow is a form of mental torcher. 

I hope prosecution is not a entertainment like boxing game with 3min/15 rounds. Whether it was torture or not, you will find out by French prosecutors/justice. Suspicions about him is not just one.

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Detention in Japan IS torture according to the UN panel of experts, the Nelson Mandela Rules, Amnesty International, etc.

Is just pointless to claim torture on 3rd world justice systems like Thailand, Brazil, Indonesia, Peru, Japan, etc.

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Ossan, have to disagree with you on this one. Extended periods of solitary confinement ( you have to stay seated in your cell I believe, can’t even do squats to keep your spirits and strength up ) unable contact the outside world , couldn’t even talk to his wife, a judicial system that seems to be deliberately and agonizingly slow is a form of mental torcher. This all after being set up by snakelike, nefarious forces, I still stand back in wonder at what he did, which is what any high performer would do , found a way to take back the control they tried so hard to take away and break him with. Can’t stand passive aggression, this slimes ‘so sorry, it’s the system’ garbage that people with no moral compass or heart hide behind.

The French going after a rich guy comes as little surprise either, perhaps a gross over generalization, but from what I’ve heard it sort of suits the national temperament. Either that or they are in cahoots with the J prosecution in an attempt to legitimize their actions. What’s in it for France at this juncture?

Ghosn, stay gone!

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ianToday  05:33 pm JST

He will probably surrender because he'll get a fair trial there and won't be tortured

Ghosn considers not being put into a large luxury suite with a jacuzzi and 4 star Michelin meals to be "torture". Nobody catches on that all the many other foreigners who are held or incarcerated in Japan don't make claims of "torture" when they are treated exactly the same way as all the other Japanese inmates.

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Similar trials based on Japan's evidence where held in the States and Ghosn was acquitted on them all.

No, this is completely false. There have been no trials or acquittals of Ghosn in the US. The only action taken in the US was the SEC indictment of Ghosn in relation to the unreported compensation allegations, which he paid $1 million and accepted a 10 year director ban to settle.

These new French charges are in relation to the more serious allegations of kickbacks from Nissan customers.

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So what's his excuse going to be this time? That he can't get a "fair trial" in France? LOL

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He will probably surrender because he'll get a fair trial there and won't be tortured

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Ghosn created a prison for himself. He’s never going to set foot out of Lebanon again. Maybe he would have not received a fair trial in Japan but he did himself no justice absconding bail. At least Kelly stayed the course and cooperated.

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Quote

the disgraced auto tycoon

Why was he disgraced??? When was this ' fact ' established and by whom????

Junk journalism , appalling.

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Let's wait for the French justice to set a trial and clear it up.

Similar trials based on Japan's evidence where held in the States and Ghosn was acquitted on them all.

I'm looking forward the next plot twist.

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The plot thickens...

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The warrant was issued over 15 million euros ($16.3 million) in suspect payments between the Renault-Nissan alliance that Ghosn once headed and an Omani company, Suhail Bahwan Automobiles (SBA), said prosecutors in the Paris suburb of Nanterre.

The quid pro quo between these officialdoms and Nissan and JGov must be interesting.

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Here we go

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