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TARA TAN KITAOKAMar. 12  04:20 pm JST

“EDUCATOR60, I am sure at yr wedding there was only u & yr wife. That was not the point !!!!!!!!!!!!”

In that one sentence you’ve made three different assumptions. Not a good idea, that.

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yes, that.

and the purchase by a Nissan subsidiary - which was supposed to be investing in startups - of luxury homes in Lebanon and Brazil for the private use of Mr Ghosn.

Next will be Mr Ghosn

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I smell libel. Ghosn resigned as CEO from Renault. He was not "removed".

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ANY event can be claimed as a business event and claimed by tax, including Europe..

Totally incorrect.

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Monsieur Ghosn need not be too concerned about this particular French inquiry. Invariably they go on for years and never reach a satisfactory clear conclusion. Some even claim that for the wealthy & powerful (no names no pack drill) they are deliberately set up like this for some unknown reason. Certainly such inquiries are good for headlines.

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Ah_so

ANY event can be claimed as a business event and claimed by tax, including Europe..

Who else paid for the British royals wedding recently? Tax money..

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Fujimori san, U are correct abt saikawa and other executives of nissan. The pot calling the kettle black. Also, U are correct ,where are the investigations into saikawa & kasayaku & accountants ???. Where & When ???. will it be conducted ???.

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EDUCATOR60, I am sure at yr wedding there was only u & yr wife. That was not the point !!!!!!!!!!!!The point was, time wasting car companies executives. Alamak.

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vinarius@pm.catv.ne.jpToday  02:17 pm JST

“Have anyone learnt that a marriage is only between 2 people and it is their personal affairs ???.How petty can car companies get ???”

In that case, shouldn’t those two people be paying for their wedding themselves?

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Kenji FujimoriToday  02:20 pm JST

“Saikawa and others have claimed numerous events as a company expense, yet no issues to look into that ha?“

If you have such information you should give it to authorities so they can investigate.

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The wedding can be claimed as a company expense, it happens here in Japan all the time, weddings, birthday parties etc can be claimed as a tax deducatble expense on the company event. French need to stop eating toxic frogs and wake up a little.

Not in Europe it can't. This would be seen as a taxable benefit ie a non-work related benefit that has a cash-equivalent value and would therefore need to be taxed as income.

I don't see this has being something worthy of criminal prosecution, but he is liable for unpaid tax.

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France, EU and the UK are almost bankrupt, so the French are holding onto the crumbs of investment they have left abroad.

No, they are not bankrupt at all.

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Saikawa and others have claimed numerous events as a company expense, yet no issues to look into that ha?

Where is the investigation into the CFO and Accountants till now?? zero ahh. Corruption or is it really Democracy..

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Have anyone learnt that a marriage is only between 2 people and it is their personal affairs ???.How petty can car companies get ???. I did not know that executives at cars companies have so much time to petty around.

pls go at least clean all the cars.

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France, EU and the UK are almost bankrupt, so the French are holding onto the crumbs of investment they have left abroad.

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@ex. In Europe the normal medium period of pre-trial incasiration is 3 months in Europe

In my native European country incarceration before indictment (charge) is 36 hours.

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@ex. In Europe the normal medium period of pre-trial incasiration is 3 months in Europe

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It is merely an investigation by the French prosecutor a this stage.

In the civilised world, a person is not incarcerated to 3 weeks without charge, assumed guilty, denied their right to defend themselves, and demonised by the press.

Unlike Japan.

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guess french wants him out of the picture to keep a smooth relationship with

nissan. low for french and sad for ghosn.

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If extricated to France he will get a 3 month suspended sentence. If he stays in japan, 15 years.

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The wedding can be claimed as a company expense

Not in the case of Renault. It is not a company related expense.

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As he is the head of several companies, chariman and CEO title, he is entitled to a company events often..

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The wedding can be claimed as a company expense, it happens here in Japan all the time, weddings, birthday parties etc can be claimed as a tax deducatble expense on the company event. French need to stop eating toxic frogs and wake up a little.

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"The event space at Versailles was made available to him without charge, and Mr Ghosn was unaware that the use of the space would be charged against Renault's allotted usage," his French-based lawyer Jean-Yves Leborgne said in February when the allegations came to light, adding that Ghosn had paid for all of his wedding expenses.

Complete and utter bollocks!!

Made available without charge?????

Does Carlos believe that he can get the Brooklyn Bridge for free???

I have NO doubt that Ghosn used the arrangements between Renault and Chateau de Versailles for his personal benefit. Absolutely in line with what I know about him.

In the last 20 years, he went from being a newly hired / appointed Renault executive from Michelin to being a master of the universe.

In the process, he let his reputation, fame and power go to his head!! He ditched his first wife, who gave birth to his children and supported him along the way, and then was ruthless in how he behaved during that divorce!!

I think karma is a b--tch and Ghosn has some karma coming his way. But that does not justify the perversion of the justice system that is the Japanese justice system.

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I don’t think everyone is out to get Ghosn. Also, even if he is presumed innocent/guilty, it is still their job to investigate allegations. Just because they investigate a claim or supposed act, it doesn’t mean they are out to get him. They are simply doing their jobs.

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Yes, they will now clutch at any straw to get him.

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When it rains, it pours. Seems like they are all out to get Ghosn, sad.

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Now this is a completely different thing here. What they are saying is that Ghosn misappropriated funds. He combined his wedding expenditure cost with that of a Nissan even cost. That is illegal in most places I know and if he hid that particular expenditure against the cost of an actual Nissan expenditure, then he should pay. However, those things are typically handled internally and as long as the employee pays the funds back and reports it during the time, then its typically okay.

When I worked in the U.S., there were many times I purchased my family vacations on my corporate credit card. This allowed me to take advantage of bigger corporate discounts. When I did my expense report, I would list it as a personal expense and forward them the payment by the date stipulated.

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As long as it's done democratically and justly - sure, investigate it! Level charges at him if necessary (if there is sufficient evidence), just make sure that due process and impartiality is not pushed to the side.

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The plot thickens.

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