Garbage men find infant's body in plastic bag

Im not sure what would bring a mother to put her baby in a gomi bag,,,,perhaps he was born dead,,,and she thought if she called the police she would be charged for his death, even if it wasnt her fault,,,,or he might have being the product of incest,,,,,or,,,,,,,i am not sure,,, but in a gomi bag is really sad,,,,,,,i feel for the gomi onisan

Wow..Unbelievable!

What's going on?

Here in the Philippines, we've had several reports of abandoned babies and fetuses the past few days...

Humanity is going downhill.

Nightvision is right, unfortunately this is happening all around the world. If the child was stillborn then I'd see no serious fault with the mother.

If the child was stillborn then I'd see no serious fault with the mother.

Really? You wouldn't think the mother did anything wrong if the baby was stillborn? What she did was clearly wrong, even if the baby was stillborn. Maybe she didn't have money to deliver her baby at a hospital, maybe she didn't have money to raise a baby, maybe she didn't have a husband, maybe her family wasn't supportive -- there are all sorts of things that could have been wrong/unfortunate, but you just would NOT throw your baby in a garbage bag. I've read that the baby was wrapped up in a towel, then put in a plastic bag, then in a garbage bag -- clearly her intention was to make the baby disappear and make it look like nothing had happened, but too bad, whatever situation she was in, she should have known what would happen if she got pregnant, she should have known what would happen if she had a baby, she should have known better. If she was poor, if she didn't have supportive family, then she clearly had a choice to NOT get pregnant.

Scary World !!!!! I would have freaked out if I was one of the garbage men.

note I said no SERIOUS fault since stillborn would have meant the child was not alive in the first place. If the child was alive then it would have been murder pure and simple. We do not know the situation of the mother whether she could or could not have taken care of the child until they are able to find her. And yes I do agree with you that if a person does not want a child they should have taken precautions to not get pregnant in the first place. Condoms and other contraceptives are there for a reason.

I said no SERIOUS fault since stillborn would have meant the child was not alive in the first place.

I see that you said no serious fault, but I'd still see an extremely serious fault. If the baby died because of her fault (not taking care of the baby before he was born), then she literally murdered the baby -- maybe not in a very brutal way like throwing him in a garbage bag, but same mentality -- she thought it would be okay for the baby to die so that she could escape from whatever situation she was in. Whether the baby was already dead or alive, it is a fact that she threw him with garbage. She might have been in a terrible situation, and I would feel sorry for her if she was, but I would not think there was any good-enough excuse to throw a baby (dead or alive) away with garbage. If the baby wasn't found by a garbage man, if she doesn't get caught, perhaps she will make the same mistake again.. she might get pregnant again and then think she could just throw the baby in a garbage bag again. What's more wrong (than the act of throwing the baby away) is the mentality of the woman.

Maybe I am being emotional because I am a woman and a mother, but I don't know, how bad of a situation she was/is in, what could make a woman more miserable than throwing a baby that she just delivered?

If the child was stillborn then I'd see no serious fault with the mother.

If that was the case, she still would face charges of abandoning a corpse, and not registering the death. I think it is pretty callous to just "throw out the baby" with the trash if it were stillborn. She still could have taken it to the hospital, and I know this may sound gruesome, but I am sure that they would have taken the body if only to have a cadaver to do medical training on. I would think that would have been a much better lot for the infant, being used for medical research, than to just be thrown out with the garbage.

But, that all depends on if the child was indeed stillborn. If they find that the child was born normally and then died as a result of negligence by the mother, then that's a differnt story.

What could make a woman more miserable than throwing a baby that she just delivered?

Hmmmm. Let's see in Japan, that could range from not getting the LV bag she wanted to learning that she would have to feed and cloth the little accessory growing inside of her. All would probably make her feel more miserable than throwing away a baby she just delivered.

Japan, the country where abortion is a totally acceptable method of contraception. Leading on from this, it doesn't take too much of a leap to decide it's okay to throw your baby away like garbage.

Wow..Unbelievable!

Sadly, it's not. It happens more than you'd think for an industrialized country.

Sadly, it's not. It happens more than you'd think for an industrialized country.

Japan is basically a third-world country with a very thin veneer of "industrialized".

Geez, this is something I would expect to see happening in the likes of Gunma or Saitama, but a nice place like Setagaya? Say it ain't so!

clearly had a choice to NOT get pregnant.

We don't know that. It could entirely be the case that she did not have a choice. Consider:

-There are many men who feel entitled to sex on demand, and women (particularly when not married) don't feel they are in a position to say no. And sometimes if she says no, he could become violent or simply wear her down until she relents.

-The pill is not covered by health insurance and can cost more than 2000 yen per month, and most women are scared out of taking it.

-Women do not feel they are in a position to demand condoms. And Japan is notorious for low condom use.

-Abortions are exorbitantly expensive, as is pre-natal care and birth (which are all not covered by health insurance).

If the woman was not well off and was relying on the guy for support, but he dumped her when he found out she was pregnant (which happens more than you might think), what was she going to do? How many jobs do you think hire a woman who's pregnant? How many low-paying jobs do you think are safe to have while pregnant?

It is important in cases like this to consider all the factors. It's almost never so simple as, "Well, she was evil and stupid." These cases show us many things that are wrong in Japan, especially concerning the welfare of women. And until Japan shapes up and starts to, for example, promote respect for women and include women's health in NHI services, you're going to continue to see things like this happen over and over.

It is important in cases like this to consider all the factors. It's almost never so simple as, "Well, she was evil and stupid."

Monkeyz, good points you bring up, but the bottom line is, no matter the circumstances you would think that at least a basic shred of human deciency would be to take the child to a hospital for turnover to an orphanage, and if it was stillborn, take it to the hospital for a proper "disposal" if she couldn't afford a funeral.

Just to leave it in the trash, no matter what her circumstances were, is a bit evil and stupid on her part. She knew enough to know that she couldn't let her neighbors or others know how she had disposed of the child, since she knew that it was a wrong thing to do it like that.

Monkeyz-

It is important in cases like this to consider all the factors. It's almost never so simple as, "Well, she was evil and stupid." These cases show us many things that are wrong in Japan, especially concerning the welfare of women.

I agree, and that is why I said that this woman might have been in a terrible situation and I would feel sorry -- but Still, throwing a baby with garbage isn't what a person with the right-mind would do even if she got pregnant and she didn't really have a choice, even if she didn't have a job and she was depending on her man and the man didn't want the baby -- even in those situations, someone with the right mind would not put a baby in a bag and throw it away.

I never said this woman was evil, but rather implied ths made a serious mistake and should have known better and should have thought more/better.

Killing and throwing away her baby certainly wouldn't have been the best answer she could come up with if she cared about the baby even a tiny bit.

Killing and throwing away her baby certainly wouldn't have been the best answer she could come up with if she cared about the baby even a tiny bit.

We don't know for sure that she killed her baby, it's unfair to make these assumptions.

I can think of a reason why she didn't take the baby's body to the hospital: if the hospital suspected foul play, she'd get turned in to the police. She might have been terrified of this, which led her to make the poor decision of using the garbage instead. Whatever the case, whatever happened, this is a sad event.

We don't know for sure that she killed her baby, it's unfair to make these assumptions.

if she didn't properly care for the baby, she basically killed him, not in a brutal way but still her irresponsibility resulted in the baby's death. and if the baby died for other reasons, then even if she was afraid of hospital people calling the police, she should have taken the baby to a hospital or wherever is appropriate, not a garbage place -- this is what I meant by the woman's mentality and that being the problem. She thought she'd get away by throwing the baby out? then she's guilty even if she didn't kill the baby.

if she didn't properly care for the baby, she basically killed him

We do not know for sure whether or not the baby's death was preventable or not; there are genetic issues that can result in a stillborn child that no treatment exists for. Like I said, we don't know many of the facts involved, but I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in the baby's death for the time being.

Disposal of the body, however, I still think she made a bad decision, so we are in agreement in that respect. She should have done the responsible thing, no matter how frightened she was.

Disposal of the body, however, I still think she made a bad decision, so we are in agreement in that respect. She should have done the responsible thing, no matter how frightened she was. Yes, and I am glad we agree on this one ;)

One very sick person out there.. How could a mother do this....dispose it in a garbage bag after carrying the baby around with you for the past 9 months..... what is happening to Japanese society?

How could a "mother" do this.. Carrying around a child for the past 9 months and then throwing it away in a rubbish bag....

genkicat.

Same way a mother can dispose of her newborn in the garbage disposal on a plane, etc.

Stillborn or not she is gonna get nailed, if it was stillborn she is still liable for "unlawful disposal of a corpse", etc.

Just another sad story as is repeated daily worldwide.

A very sad day, and a horrific piece of news. Wipes Oshio's disaster right off the page, almost. Thank your lucky stars to be born with more wits than these sad, chronic , unfortunate losers.

Very unfortunate. Who knows... could be the father that didn't let her keep it... or someone else. We can only guess at the circumstances and be thankful that they are not our own.

I'm guessing one thing would be improving sex ed. in schools, anyone know about how the curriculum is? Though not all people go through the school system, perhaps taking a detailed look at it would be a good start.

another big FAIL for good ol' Japan.

society fail. will someone do something about it? no, because its not their problem.

hard to speculate on the reasoning, but i'm going to take a WILD guess and say it was likely a 20'ish year old prostitute (part time of course) who didnt want to pay for an abortion and couldnt narrow down who the father might have been due to number of clients around conception time. Hopefully she made enough to buy another bag and new phone tho.

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sometimes I REALLY wonder why I am still living here.

Now this is really sick and disturbing news. How can Japanese people do these kinds of things and call themselves good people!!! People who do these kinds of things should caught, thrown into prison for 99 years and left there to rot until death. This is a really evil act that should not have happen to begin with. I feel so sorry for the child that was born. So sad.

Find not only the mother, but also the father too.Why this? What's wrong with these people?

@alladin

People who do these kinds of things should caught, thrown into prison for 99 years and left there to rot until death.

You forgot the ten million yen fine! You always demand a ten million yen fine, whatever the crime. ;)

I'm afraid the convenience factor of this society has gone to extremes in this case, but not only this case. Its a very wierd dichotomy that is happening in this society, the good with the really bad. The caring with the really zombied out population.But after all the good and bad is reported, is it in the end just like any other country or not? Not only different, that we will all agree on, but does the good outweigh the bad in Japan? Obviously or else we wouldn't stay......?

This is very horrible, it is worse than the news of a baby found in the garbage in an airplane in the Philippines, that had just arrived from Baharain.

it is worse than the news of a baby found in the garbage in an airplane in the Philippines.

How?

How could a "mother" do this.. Carrying around a child for the past 9 months and then throwing it away in a rubbish bag....

Some people just dont want kids..if she kept the baby for 2 months and had an abortion then a hospital/clinic would dispose of the body.it would be a similar situation.

Sigh... now this mother is a high school student.. Don't know how her family didn't notice about the girl's change. She has a mother and a sister living in the same apartment and no one knew she was pregnant. Some women (if they are big before pregnancy) the tummy don't really stand out depending on what kind of clothes they are wearing, but a high school student.. if she was going to school, then what about her uniform? Especially in the summer... how could she even hide her stomach?.. sigh.