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Ghosn appeals against bail rejection

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By Behrouz Mehri

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Ghosn being mistreated is not really news anymore, is it?

-15 ( +11 / -26 )

I sincerely doubt the judge is gonna change his stance and grant bail. The evidence against him is not substantial nor concrete. If Ghosn is exonerated after 3/4 of a year in prison we can expect to see some major civil suits launched against Nissan and the J-Gov for his mistreatment. Japan and Nissan have really opened up a can of worms with his arrest, extended detention and unfair treatment. I don’t think they are prepared for the repercussions if their case fails.

12 ( +27 / -15 )

He had clearly lost a lot of weight but seemed otherwise in good health.

It would be his ideal weight, so he is in good health.

-24 ( +12 / -36 )

I would love to see him get out on bail (at the minimum)!

But I have my serious doubts, too.

And a 2 -months pre-trial detention, expandable one month at a time?

How long are they going to keep on doing this? Disgusting!!

5 ( +18 / -13 )

It would be his ideal weight, so he is in good health.

You are a doctor and you have examined him yourself, have you?

16 ( +28 / -12 )

He had clearly lost a lot of weight but seemed otherwise in good health.

Losing a lot of weight is USUALLY not a sign of good health

He passionately proclaimed his innocence and his love for Nissan, a company he is widely credited with saving from the brink of bankruptcy.

And this is how the japanese repay him.

"I have been wrongly accused and unfairly detained based on meritless and unsubstantiated accusations," Ghosn told a packed courtroom.

We know. Hang tough.

When is the world going to say enough is enough? And why the hell isn't the MSM picking up more on this?? And the shameless spineless French government that wants to throw him under the bus to curry favor with Japan just makes me want to puke. I hope Macron is impeached. Punk.

0 ( +17 / -17 )

The treatment he is being put through, whilst not a single Japanese executive is being held, is despicable!

The law in this country is a JOKE!

5 ( +20 / -15 )

Can you appeal a rubber stamp court judgement to another rubber stamp court judgement?

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

Maybe Yoshihide Suga and Hiroto Saikawa can explain about Ghosn arrest.

-4 ( +12 / -16 )

What happens if they fail to find evidence? How are they going to give him his time back?

5 ( +17 / -12 )

What happens if they fail to find evidence? How are they going to give him his time back?

They can't. But they can financially compensate him. Don't think he really needs any more money, he wants his freedom. Amazing how with all the money he has, he isn't free to take a walk to the Family Mart and get some Fami Chicken and a couple of beers to start putting back on weight that he's lost in the hostage lair, er, detention.

1 ( +12 / -11 )

What sort of CEO talent would want to work in Japan with these double standards.

14 ( +29 / -15 )

Ghosn being mistreated is not really news anymore, is it?

This is exactly what Japanese media is hoping for. People getting sick and tired of hearing about it, and moving along with their lives.

THAT is when the pressure will ease from abroad. THe French government calling for his removal is also a sign that they want to move on as well and could be a political move too.

1 ( +15 / -14 )

Forgot about Ghosn since he's been gone from the spotlight. Time for the media to move on

1 ( +5 / -4 )

Why do they have to reiterate his race in many articles? Why is this all a cat and mouse show just for our government to garner something in return from the French side or buy back the Renault shares... There needs to be a protest

3 ( +8 / -5 )

The lawyer for Carlos is no different to the character from the movie 'my Cousin Vinny' man up and be stronger yo defend your client

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Appealing the appeal of the appeal. At this point, just throw in the towel, Mr. Ghosn. Tidy up your room, maybe get some nice incense or air fresheners, and get used to your new home. Courts are never going to allow bail.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Ridiculous, Carlos case is the most ridiculous of abuse of human rights, I have seen. I will recommend this same kind of law to all other countries. Who is Japan to even talk abt Chinese laws ???.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

This is exactly what Japanese media is hoping for. People getting sick and tired of hearing about it, and moving along with their lives.

Of course, it's embassasing isn't it, so the Japanese people "just want to forget".

3 ( +8 / -5 )

It's very unlikely the judge will ever agree to releasing him on bail. Of course they keep stating he 'might' be a flight risk and 'might' destroy evidence. I 'might' win the lottery too. However, we all know the real reason they won't let him out is because of the hundreds of international media journalists begging to interview him and blow the top of the farce known as, the Japanese justice system.

By the way, is that sketch supposed to be Ghosn? It looks more like some Japanese manga character.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

@ robotxparty

Would you just 'throw in the towel' if you thought you were innocent?

As many of us have said, over and over. The issue is not his guilt or innocence. I don't care either way about that.

What I am appalled by is a system where a person can be held, without trial indefinitely. based on as yet unproven allegations from an opposing party with something to gain from his incarceration.

5 ( +10 / -5 )

What I am appalled by is a system where a person can be held, without trial indefinitely. based on as yet unproven allegations from an opposing party with something to gain from his incarceration.

This is my stance as well. I have no idea whether he is guilty or not, but the who situation of his incarceration is not right.

10 ( +14 / -4 )

Boycott NISSAN..............

9 ( +13 / -4 )

I have been wrongly accused and unfairly detained based on meritless and unsubstantiated accusations," Ghosn told a packed courtroom.

Welcome to Japan, Mr. Ghosn.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

expat What happens if they fail to find evidence? How are they going to give him his time back?

The prosecution HAS evidence.

They have a growing mountain of evidence.

The prosecution is not obliged not make it public. It will come out when the case goes to court

Though bit and pieces have been published. especially in various foreign publications - and some J ones as well

Thus, even the French Finance Minister is pressuring Renault to let Ghosn go from Renault - the presumption of innocence notwithstanding.

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Disillusioned . Of course they keep stating he 'might' be a flight risk and 'might' destroy evidence

Ghosn actually stated to his lawyer, that if he were released he would got to France. He promised he would return to the Court Case.

Those were his words.

So yes - he is a flight risk.

-6 ( +3 / -9 )

Hallowed Forgot about Ghosn since he's been gone from the spotlight. Time for the media to move on

.

Excellent point.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Now Renault is seemingly about to replace Mr Ghosn-- could it be a case of where there's smoke there's fire?

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

The prosecution HAS evidence. They have a growing mountain of evidence.

The prosecution is not obliged not make it public. It will come out when the case goes to court

And yet you make it sound as if you are the keeper of all of it! You dont have the evidence either, so you are willing to lynch the guy before his day in court, based upon what you have read in the media.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

The Japanese "justice" system has met its match in Ghosn. He had enough money and intelligence to force the prosecutors to actually do their jobs instead of simply relying on forced confessions.

Stay strong, Ghosn!

7 ( +8 / -1 )

The prosecution HAS evidence.

They have a growing mountain of evidence.

It's a growing mountain of what could very well be fabricated evidence. Fabricated by those in Nissan who are quite possibly engaged in a boardroom coup d'etat.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

This isn't about Japanese vs. foreigner. It's about staying out of the established corporate Japan old boy's network. You don't go against the Borg Collective. Ghosn was credited with saving Nissan and soon he was going to hand over the keys to Renault. Corporate Japan was saying "oh no you don't". Same thing happened to Horiemon when at LiveDoor. He messed with the Corporate Big Boys and they banded together to make his life hell.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Ghosn needs to prepare boxes of "manju" to pass out to all involved with the case.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

@ semperfi

Though bit and pieces have been published.especially in various foreign publications - and some J ones as well

Those bits and pieces are all put together from things leaked by Nissan and the Prosecutors. They only leak things that lead the media to the conclusions they want, probably without any real evidence. Remember, Nissan wants Ghosn out so they can distance the company from Renault. To that end I doubt their "evidence" is completely unbiased!

If they can create a "conviction by the media" less people will complain about the injustice and if they can get a forced confession everybody will accept the outcome. All this leads to there never being enough pressure to change the system. The appalling injustice is allowed to continue!

As for all their "mountains" of evidence remember the Renault lawyers received and reviewed everything. Their conclusion is that what they saw wasn't enough to prove wrongdoing.

Drawing conclusions from only one side of a story through "leaks" of out of context information hoping to lead people to draw the conclusion the Prosecutors want while keeping the other side silent only works with those that have really been brainwashed. You certainly fall into that category but I'll wait for the trail. In the meantime the Japanese justice system should join the rest of the democratic world and release Ghosn on bail.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

Its not about whether he is innocent or guilty. It is about due process and equality.

Fact is, we don't know if he's guilty or not. We DO know that he had not been given ample opportunity to build his own case, while the accusers and prosecutors have been given more than ample opportunity to build theirs.

We don't see the Japanese executives being treated this way - and some of them DID turn out to be guilty (although mostly escape sentencing).

It's amazing how the Japanese manage to delude themselves to think that this anything but active racism or xenophobia.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

There's an avalanche of negative media stories, but Ghosn has had little chance to exercise a right of reply (the only real chance he's had so far was in his court statement).

5 ( +6 / -1 )

Of course he will appeal and of course the appeal will be rejected. Part of the Kabuki.

I am looking forward to an actual trial so we may find out what really happened.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

At this stage, anybody pretending to know what if any evidence exists, or whether Ghosn is guilty or not, is simply lying. What is the point of that? If it's a misplaced attempt to defend Japan's legal system come what may, it is very foolish and merely does the opposite.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

With Ghosn having lived in Japan for so long, as have most of us here, why the shock and horror over his treatment? Is it not common knowledge amongst most with time in the country?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

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