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Hong Kong student jailed for 2 months under sedition over social media posts in Japan

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Many of us who actively criticise the despicable HK-Chinese totalitarian government would certainly be in the same predicament as this poor girl if we stepped foot in that police state.

Imagine being locked up for the crime of talking about freedom and democracy - and having the audacity to be critical of your govt - you know, the body you pay taxes to.

Avoid totalitarian HK like the plague. The place is a disgusting police state.

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Ingorant don't know how to spell. (Kidding - just a typo certainly).

China is doomed. Its brain drain will only be worsened by such acts: Those who do manage to leave, whether for study or work, will rethink their plans to return.

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And sadly most Chinese will just let this happen, have their personal freedoms stolen by a police state, let the government do whatever they want to citizens, because they feel the need to be support the government and be nationalistic. We must support 'China' even if the 'China' we're supporting is crooked and rotten because it's about saving face at the global level. We don't care what's happening to us domestically as long as we look strong and united globally. What kind of country will you have left.

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adding that a return to the city might entail political prosecution.

Just being in the city might also entail political persecution. China is run by a totlitarian regime after all. China and its pals Russia, Iran and North Korea continue to be seen as preferable alternatives to the west to those who seem to want a big brother to control their lives, and maybe more importantly protect them from their and the regime's enemies, real and imagined.

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Free China from the CCP

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Yet another example of what a horrible country China is.

This is why they will never be a world leader. Xi is a modern day Hitler.

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most Chinese will just let this happen, have their personal freedoms stolen by a police state, let the government do whatever they want to citizens, because they feel the need to be support the government and be nationalistic.

Replace "Chinese" with "Americans," "Brits", or "Canadians" and I would agree with you. The educated Chinese are very aware of what is happening, and sometimes very brave compared to Westerners in defending their freedoms.

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People of the world in the 21st century need to rise up against the mental slavery imposed by government aka the state: they have nothing to lose but their dictators.

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I feel sad for Hong Kong as a British national. It's just awful what the CCP has done to it. But it's a lesson into what is to come unless we stop the expansion of this evil empire. What an amazing country China could have been if it weren't for the plague brought down on it by the red army.

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People of the world in the 21st century need to rise up against the mental slavery imposed by government aka the state: they have nothing to lose but their dictators.

People need to do this before it gets this bad. They have everything to lose otherwise: their jobs, their freedom, their families, their lives. Once it passes a certain point, you can't blame people for trying to protect their children by keeping their heads down.

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commanteerToday  06:45 pm JST

Replace "Chinese" with "Americans," "Brits", or "Canadians" and I would agree with you. The educated Chinese are very aware of what is happening, and sometimes very brave compared to Westerners in defending their freedoms.

Where do you come from? If you were American, British, or Canadian then you'd know that many have a distrust with governments and corporations. We know we're stuck with them but there's also a wariness and general mistrust. Personal freedom and civil liberties are at the core of society. People are free to and often express their dissatisfaction through protest, demonstrations, and discourse. The issue now is that it's become polarized which has produced more extremists and blurred the lines between patriotism and nationalism. We're not as concerned as much as the Chinese with global image so we're more open to and able to publicly criticize our gov'ts and countries and more likely to not take it as a personal affront if someone bashes our country.

The majority of Chinese right now are just nationalistic sheep who care more about their nationalistic image than the erosion of their civil liberties. How many are educated in China compared to the general population? What are the 'educated' actually doing about their loss of personal freedom?

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Most of the countries are jailing people for posts these days including US, EU, japan and all developed countries without any exception. Only developing countries who don’t have enough technology to track everybody’s posts are not doing that.

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quote: The majority of Chinese right now are just nationalistic sheep.

I don' think that's accurate. They just know what they have to say and not say to survive in a dictatorship.

Criticise the CCP and you cannot return to CCP territory without getting banged up or beaten up. Get residency somewhere else or claim asylum somewhere where you might get it. Escape HK if you can and don't go back. It's occupied by China now.

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JohnNov. 4 11:54 pm JST

Most of the countries are jailing people for posts these days including US, EU, japan and all developed countries without any exception.

The only cases I am aware of of someone being jailed in the US for their posts is a direct threat made on social media, where of course there is a lot of information about you.

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I am surprised she only got 2 months inside, Being what the CCP is and what it does I would have expected 5yrs or more. China is a failed state, and even the hierarchy within the CCP know this, yet there is no one willing to take on Xi and his diktatorial murderous policies. Their only hope is for the Army leaders to say, enough is enough.

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She knew very well that she’ll face the consequences upon her return to HK!

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GBR48Today  12:14 am JST

quote: The majority of Chinese right now are just nationalistic sheep.

I don' think that's accurate. They just know what they have to say and not say to survive in a dictatorship.

Criticise the CCP and you cannot return to CCP territory without getting banged up or beaten up. Get residency somewhere else or claim asylum somewhere where you might get it. Escape HK if you can and don't go back. It's occupied by China now.

I agree that there are some who fear repercussions but I don't think it's a lot. They support the CCP partly out of cultural adherence to authority (part of Confucianism).

I think for some it's more of a tradeoff; put up with this nonsense because they like the hawkish attitude of China vs. the world, especially western countries. The PLA certainly have no problem with it. Though exit bans are being enforced stronger than before, some Chinese can still vote with their feet and leave. That most haven't could be seen as tacit support for the CCP.

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Citizens of the West take note.....similar fates await you under misinformation laws. Check out Australia's latest proposal.

https://humanrights.gov.au/about/news/opinions/why-misinformation-bill-risks-freedoms-it-aims-protect

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MilesTegToday 03:08 pm JST

I think for some it's more of a tradeoff; put up with this nonsense because they like the hawkish attitude of China vs. the world, especially western countries. The PLA certainly have no problem with it. Though exit bans are being enforced stronger than before, some Chinese can still vote with their feet and leave. That most haven't could be seen as tacit support for the CCP.

Yeah, no, a farmer not leaving China is not a sign of tacit support for the CCP. The only question is how deep the indoctrination goes.

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TaiwanIsNotChinaToday  03:14 pm JST

Yeah, no, a farmer not leaving China is not a sign of tacit support for the CCP. The only question is how deep the indoctrination goes.

Why specifically a farmer. Chances are a typical Chinese farmer wouldn't be highly educated or know what it's like to live in other countries, so would have no reason to leave China as he already supports the CCP.

If someone who has typically more education, like a banker, who has travelled outside China, has no intention of leaving China. it would imply he has no real issue with the CCP and what it's doing. His not wanting to leave then could be seen as support for the CCP and not tacit in any way.

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MilesTegToday 03:55 pm JST

Why specifically a farmer. Chances are a typical Chinese farmer wouldn't be highly educated or know what it's like to live in other countries, so would have no reason to leave China as he already supports the CCP.

The "already supports the CCP" part says you are arguing the indoctrination/brutalization is complete and there is no questioning the party much like in 1984.

If someone who has typically more education, like a banker, who has travelled outside China, has no intention of leaving China. it would imply he has no real issue with the CCP and what it's doing. His not wanting to leave then could be seen as support for the CCP and not tacit in any way.

There are much much fewer bankers than farmers, but the banker preferring to stay could be lifestyle preference or it could be full indoctrination. Honestly I am not capable of saying what the levels of indoctrination in the Chinese education system are. I am going to go out on a limb and say that preference for Xi Jinping Thought over Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau is a result of indoctrination.

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